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From: John
To: For all to peruse & for Joe(Florida) A.K.A. EagleEye
Subject: EagleEye /Joe(Florida) EXPOSED
Date: Thu Oct 25 00:08:16 2001

Message:
The following are postings of Joe(Florida) A.K.A. EagleEye - He 
was exposed so well for what he is, I thought maybe I'd repost 
it.   Ha Ha Ha

Here are his words with my response below each of his hate 
filled lines.   John, E pluribus unum

*********

 Dont fuck with me, Im an newly indoctrinated, Muslim despising, 
infuriated American. 

Response:   It's obvious you are newly indoctrinated to this new 
found hatred.  In my, and certainly most readers judgment, you 
have simply shifted your vast hate, but temporarily, from 
another group of people, whether they be blacks, Asians, 
Mexicans, Jews, or others, to those of the Muslim faith.  I say 
temporarily, for it is certain you will re-shift your focus 
towards your hated group du-jour



 Dont fuck with me, Im not Joe(Florida). 

Response:  you are one in the same, Oh - and what a lonely 
hateful person Joe is.



 Dont fuck with me, I do read books .. plenty. 

Response:  You may very well have a read (a) book. It s 
possible.  Unfortunately, you obviously chose the book.



 Dont fuck with me, go read a book - start with the Koran.  But 
dont try it on a full stomach - that is of course unless you 
like to PUKE - like a do when I see a MUSLIM disguising their 
hate and jealousy as "peaceful". 

Response:  It s obvious you have not read the Koran.  I need not 
reiterate and regurgitate the common arguments equating the 
Quran to the Bible and the evil embraced by both within their 
covers.  Your excuse to justify your hate is your contention - 
they hate you, or us.  That s just representative of your 
sickness    hate just for the sake of hate .



 Dont fuck with me, just because I dont like Noam Chomsky. 

Response:   As if you ve read any of his books, yeah right!  You 
gotta be kidding.



 Dont fuck with me, because its the 1.x Billion fucked Muslims 
that fornicate it for the remaining 10 good ones. 

Response:   The man who comes to mind upon reading such a 
statement is Adolph Hitler.  He too hated an entire race and 
sought their destruction.  Like you he hated just for the sake 
of hate.



 Dont fuck with me, cuz you re a naive liberal idiot who thinks 
they want peace with your candy western infadel ass. 


Response:   Considering, I personally am a card-carrying right 
wing, gun toting Republican who possesses a growing number of 
Libertarian viewpoints, your statement is simply ludicrous and 
representative of all your mis-targeted hate-filled strikes.  
And as far as your statement that Liberals believe the 
terrorists want peace, I can say only one thing - to use your 
verbiage    YOU ARE AN IDIOT!   Liberals and Conservatives alike 
seek the total ruination of al Quaeda, the Taliban, Usama bin 
Laden, and all supporters of, including, when the copartner 
evidence is released timely - as we are positioned, - Saddam 
Hussein.



 Dont fuck with me, cuz Muslims are taught in the womb to 
despise 
all NON-Muslims especially Jews, and Americans. 

Response:   It is true many children taught within the Saudi 
sponsored, (and paid-for) schools within Pakistan, learn the 
lesson of hate towards Non-Muslims.  Our post war pressures will 
cease this activity.  I wonder though -  where did you learn to 
hate as you do? 



 I cant wait for the annual "Pilgrimage to Mecca" - oh what a 
glorious opportunity for dealing out a little Koran style 
justice - eye for an eye.  Weather forecast for Mecca - 5,000 
degrees farhenheit, and CLOUDY - as in mushroom.  I love the 
smell of martyrs in the morning ..... 


Response:   I am certain, if given the opportunity, you would 
perpetrate the murder of millions under the banner of hate.  



 Taliban Muslim quiz of the day:

[choose the most correct answer]

How do the Muslims have the audacity to call a swine 
an "unclean/filthy" animal?

Is it:

A. Cause they are jealous thats pigs actually have better hygene 
than Muslims [especcially women]?

B. Because Muslim males are jealous that their women prefer 
feeling the superior circumference of the pig penis in their 
mouth over that of the Afghani/typical Muslim male of the 
species?[we havent determined if any muslims are human yet] 



Response:   Your attempt at humor is but again a symbol of your 
hate towards your fellow man.

Yesterday, I stopped to pick up my usual two carton dose of 
cigarettes from my local Pakistani vendor.  His 13  TV was tuned 
to the 24 hour broadcast war.  We discussed the happenings 
within his homeland and surrounding areas.  We came to no 
consensus as to the outcome for his small country.  It is 
conceivable Mushareff s government could topple to extremist.  
And that worried him and I because could it could eventually 
lead to the fulfillment of your sick wish, the entire 
annihilation of many innocents at the hand of nuclear weaponry.

He, my Pakistani immigrant friend, was deeply saddened by the 
events leading up to today.  He was especially worried that 
maybe there are those who seek to destroy an entire race as you 
do.  I assured him   that it is only a very small minority that 
seeks such action.  I exampled for him - as it was but a small 
minority of radicals within his faith that perpetrated the 
murdering of thousands of innocents here.   The majority of 
Americans and the American government recognize that fact.  He 
understands we are targeting the destruction of that minority, 
the al Quaeda and Taliban only.  He knew that of course.  I 
think he simply wanted to hear it again from somebody he knows 
and trusts.  Trust I assume is hard to come by for my Pakistani 
friend these days.  It s no wonder, with such hate-filled people 
as you roaming the planet.


John
E pluribus unum


From: blah
To: blah
Subject: blah
Date: Thu Oct 25 00:35:24 2001

Message:
YOU BLACK ARABS YOU CAN ALL DIE IN HELL AND 
SMELL LIKE SHIT. SUCK MY BALLS YOU ARABS AND THE 
JEWS ARE INBRED BLACK FUCKS!

From: American
To: Spy
Subject: Re: Answers
Date: Thu Oct 25 00:52:40 2001

Message:
Nice return Spy!  I say exactly the same thing. If anyone wants 
to support the Taliban, don't stay here and suffer with us.  Go 
help them.  Be my guest.  I won't stop anyone who wants to go. 
In fact, I'll help them pack!  

From: John
To: EagleEye - A.K.A. Joe(Florida)
Subject: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HhA HA HA
Date: Thu Oct 25 01:27:32 2001

Message:

From: Fan of Eagle Eye
To: Pain in the ass John
Subject: You are B.O.R.I.N.G.
Date: Thu Oct 25 12:14:05 2001

Message:
Look John,  I am NOT impressed with you.  I happen to LOVE 
Eagle's Eyes postings.  He tells it like it is.  I seriously 
DOUBLT anyone that is posting will actually go and take out an 
arab.  Although, I feel it should be done of course.  But you 
need to understand that this is the place to vent and I for one, 
am tired of your shenanigans and monkeyshines about threatening 
to see Eagle Eye locked up.  Are you a united states citizen, 
John?  If you are, than you know that the people venting on this 
board are using their FREEDOM and bill or rights as Americans to 
say whaterver the heck they feel.  I also find it HILARIOUS that 
the citizens are being bombed.  In fact, BRAVO!  We have to 
remember that it is OUR OWN INNOCENT CITIZENS that have been 
murdered and an eye for an eye.  I will not be happen until the 
death toll is seven MILLION for those rag heads.  Those people 
really are filthy too.  I used to work with a very filthy woman 
muslim and you would always reek of menstrual blood and cum.  
Joh, quit being such a pain in the ass.  The only idiot that 
annoyys me more than the anti usa assholes are YOU.  Get a grip 
dude. 

From: Chico
To: John you SUCK
Subject: Stop posting asshole
Date: Thu Oct 25 12:23:56 2001

Message:
John, you are so anal rententive why dont you just leave Eagle 
Eye alone. Who made you moderator?  ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: Chico
To: Guinea on the board
Subject: The guinea gotta go too
Date: Thu Oct 25 12:29:42 2001

Message:
The guinea posts dumb shit.  From an ITALIAN.  Mafiosio?  
Soprano wannabee kiss dominican repulic ass.  VIVA USA!!!  John 
maricon puta   guinea:  fongoola to yoolla!

From: Spy
To: American
Date: Thu Oct 25 12:46:17 2001

Message:
Yeah----maybe they can give us their address as so we 
could come over and help them "pack"

From: John
To: Chico, Fan of Eagle Eye, et al others of similiar viewpoint
Subject: Should we target and destroy those responsible?
Date: Thu Oct 25 12:51:38 2001

Message:
Venting is no excuse.  And that's not venting.  It's called hate.

To suggest or condone the entire destruction of innocent 
millions of people solely for your the need to vent is sickening.

How can anyone even think justice is serviced by killing 
millions. The leaders of this government - the Taliban and al 
Quaeda are the current target and their destruction is currently 
underway.  As they should be.  No question.

Here's an analogy:  Timothy McVeigh (murderous evil animal) was 
deservedly executed.  Should we additionally seek out his mother 
and execute her?  Should we seek out anyone he knew and execute 
them?  Should we determine his ethnic backround and then execute 
all people of similiar ethnic backround?  Should we go to his 
church and execute all the congregation?

I simply state - Don't legitimize these posters outright evil 
statements wishing the execution of millions of people solely 
because they were unfortunate enough to be born in Afghanistan.  
Are these not women & children, little boys and girls who know 
nothing of politics.  Do they understand the crime committed 
against us?  Are they responsible?

Should we target and destroy those responsible, being certain to 
limit the killing of innocent women and children?


John
E pluribus unum

From: USA CHAMPS
To: Eagle Eye/Joe Fla
Subject: I LOVE YOU GUYS
Date: Thu Oct 25 12:37:25 2001

Message:
What is up with this fucker John?  DUH. Pleribus my cock, you 
dumb fuck.  You sure make boring posts, I like posts that have a 
bit of meat in them.  Just for your assholism, you are BANNED 
from every attendign any of our baby bin bastard barbecues.  
Whoever came up with that clever saying is a GENUIS!  WIsh I 
would have thought that up myself.  John how to stroke your 
women or (men)?  I like nice comfortable screws myself and I am 
COMMANDING you to stop acting like you own the board.  This is 
NOT your site, but for everyone to say whatever the fuck that 
they feel.  I cum on here especially to read about what Eagle 
Eye and Joe in Florida say. We had a fucker that owned a Dunkin 
Donuts here that was taken into custody the the FBI the day this 
shit went down.  He was a friend of Bin's.  This is WHY we are 
litterally sleeping with the enemy people!  If the japs were 
sent out of here and rounded up in 41.  We REALLY need to do 
this now.  Concentration camps not a bad idea.  Now Johnny, 
please take clue and SHUT THE FUCK UP.  EAGLE EYE /JOE FLORIDA 
RULES.  DEATH TO THE TOWELHEADS IN USA AND MIDDLE EAST.  Take 
your jhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiad and shove it up your ass 
motherfuckers.  By the way, anyone here the new parody song to 
the tune of DAYO.  No, well here blows:  CUM MR. TALIBAN GIMME 
SOME OSAMA,  DAYLIGHT COME AND WE WANNA GO HOME.  ITS SEVEN FOOT 
EIGHT FOOT NINE FOOT BOMB, DAYLIGHT CUM AND WE WANNA GO HOME.  
Joh, I heard your cum tastes bad like week old clam chowder at 
the chinks.  FUCK YOU!

From: Everyman
To: All
Subject: Eagle Eye
Date: Thu Oct 25 13:34:57 2001

Message:
What a disgusting representation of Americans.  No wonder we get 
a bad rap with that kind of _ _ _ _!

Read a book eagle eye, you might learn something!

From: Justice USA
To: John = anal retentive
Subject: Keep Eagle and Joe
Date: Thu Oct 25 13:30:54 2001

Message:
I want them to STAY on the board forever.  They talk good shit 
and you just seem to be a bit redundant.  John, dont tell people 
how to feel.  Everyone handles their grief and anger 
differently.  When is the last time you went down to the World 
Trade Center and smelled the still burning smoked bodies of our 
beloved brothers and sisters?  I was there yesterday.  Any good 
psychiatrist will tell you that anger is the first step towards 
healing.  Your posts come across as very self righteous and 
pompous.  I would suggest you eat a lot of bran daily and keep a 
fleet enemy at all times.  Good luck with your proctoligist!  PS 
stop with the plerubis shit.  It does NOT impress any of us.  
Stop breaking my twat already!  Lick Me!

From: a surfer who can't believe what written here
To: Eagle & Joe florida
Subject: Sick!!!
Date: Thu Oct 25 13:39:58 2001

Message:
There is medication available that may help to quell your 
symptoms.

You want to kill millions of children?

You believe your eye for eye statement targets the correct eye?

You are one sick little boy.

You should be imprisoned or hospitalized.

From: EagleEye
To: John - E Plurabus Anus
Subject: typical elitist wannabe intelectual
Date: Thu Oct 25 13:02:32 2001

Message:
John,

As with all elitist wannabe intellectual panzy ass prix and 
prickettes, you feel you "deserved" some sort of response to 
your night long effort of disecting my post[s].  Frankly, your 
continual assertions that I am some Joe from Florida is no 
longer worth a response, and being that you've been exposed for 
what you are, a Politically correct traiterous, anal receptical 
of manhood [or is it goat-largess?] - I saw little value putting 
forth the effort to respond to one so obviously void of thought 
processing power.  

Further; I was too busy reading BBC web news about all the great 
a gory details of all the raghead Afghani civilians suffering 
greatly in their hospital with no plasma for surgery 
[amputations on children couldnt be performed], and pain relief 
meds are basically un heard of. Couldnt have been happier 
getting all that reading enjoyment - had no time to waste on 
your petty non-sense.

John you gave yourself away the instant you indicated I would be 
locked up for my posts ... why?  Because you evidently have 
never read and do not understand a document that lets your panzy 
little ass post here [Bill of Rights], and was paid for by the 
blood of my forefather's.  Yours must be the ones that snuck 
over after WWI/WW2-little cocksucker.  I threatened No one - yet 
reveled in their ongoing agony - fuck them.  Have you ever read 
Article One, or are you two busy reading latin, or your lover 
Chomsky, or are you an Islamic studies major - cunt.  They dont 
let pussies like you license a firearm, so save it.  Besides 
your too busy posting here to know shit about weapons.

You were correct in this assessment:
----------------
"Johnboy's Response:   It's obvious you are newly indoctrinated 
to this new found hatred.  In my, and certainly most readers 
judgment, you 
have simply shifted your vast hate, but temporarily, from 
another group of people, whether they be blacks, Asians, 
Mexicans, Jews, or others, to those of the Muslim faith.  I say 
temporarily, for it is certain you will re-shift your focus 
towards your hated group du-jour"
-----------------------

I do NOT hate Blacks, Jews, Asians, etc ... mainly just candy 
ass liberals who are constantly trying to ruin this great 
country with their Politically Correct, liberty reducing 
bantor.  That'd be you Johnboy [elitist pussy, self 
indoctrinated genious wannabe]  As I said in an earlier post - 
if it would mean the end of all Palastinian crybabies who are 
too Koranfucked to move to another surrounding country - [who 
are sooooo concerned about their suffering muslim brothers BTW] 
I'd have our GOVT send $20 billion a yr in aid to Isreal.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ????  

Hate for the sake of Hate?  

Libertarian?  Now thats funny.

Liberals want the end of Al-Qada{sp?] - really? How? Not talking 
about the Face Time liberals on Capital Hill you dweeb ... Im 
talking about the peace sign waving, marching, no flags on a 
fire truck, or pledge in school traiters - you appear to adore.

What ya gonna do Johnboy - go over, parachute in and grab your 
ankles, and lube up the chute and LOVE them Taliban, Afghani, Al-
Qada boys into NOT hating the US.  You going to change their 
mind by giving in to their ludicrous demands of the eradication 
of Isreal? Dreamer..... Hey earth to Johnboy ... while your 
daydreaming about Lennon [ the english one U asshole ...] these 
Muslim zealot fucks your soooo worried about America hating - 
are sending you and your loved ones, and your elected officials 
[well .... oooops you still probably think Bush "stole" the 
election - but thats another issue....] Anthrax, likely working 
on a way to steal more planes, looking for ways to get Nukes, 
and are likely ready to unload Small Pox.

BTW - Johnboy Genious - why cant these Muslim swine keep their 
shit under control by themselves?  When these assholes off'd 
senior citizens in the Towers, and women and children of all 
ethnicities - where were the riots in the streets by the GOOD 
Muslims against these atrocities?  As soon as a Taliban luvin 
Afghani civi gets off'd - Flag Burning time - and ohhh whats 
that ... Usama Bin Hidin's fucking poster being worshipped by 
1000's - your lost.  They MAJORITY "hate" USA.  

Your adulation aint going to mend that fence dream-boy.  Since 
you have yet to post anything that indicates your against what 
these "Peaceful" [now theres comedy] Muslims stand for - one 
could gain the impression you feel they had a right to 9.11.01?

Call it out Johnny - Pro or Anti US war on Bin Laden/Taliban/Al-
Qda?


From: San Francisco lover
To: Filthy Pakistanis
Subject: Spitting clam phleghm in kitchen sink
Date: Thu Oct 25 13:42:23 2001

Message:
The above posts about clam cum got me thinking about the dirty 
filthy pakistanis.  I knew someone that roomed with one of them 
in college (paid for by Uncle Sam of course) and this pakistani 
slob used to SPIT every morning into the kitchen sink on top of 
all the silverware and dishes. GROSS!  He would clam it with his 
phleghm.  Disgusting.  He would never wash himslef and he had 
that bad cheese smell between his toes and his feet stunk bad 
from the only pair of sandles that he wore all year round.  This 
pakistani always talked bad shit about this wonderful country of 
ours.  WHY DOESNT THE USA TAKE CARE OF ITS OWN?  

From: EagleEye
To: my detractors
Subject: See how it can be .....
Date: Thu Oct 25 13:50:07 2001

Message:
Because most of you, like me .... live behind the ignorant bliss 
that is the security of the USA and her borders.

You dont seem to be able to fathom the magnitude of the 
many "Muslims", and others that hate you and what you stand for, 
like and even "beyond" the "heinous" and incidious commentary 
Ive posted. Like I say I hate them - they hate you worse, and 
your freaking kidding yourself if you deny it - but John - you 
rationlize your shit your way.

How does someone put their pregnant fiance on an airplane, give 
her a live-bomb in a breifcase, not tell her, and switch planes 
at a connection, and plan to blow her, the kid and all the 
peep's on the plane up.

With comments likemine now wonder America has a bad rap with 
Arabs?  No anti muslim / Arab shit pre 9/11/01 bitch - how do 
you expalin that?

From: John
To: Justice USA
Subject: just Americans
Date: Thu Oct 25 13:50:35 2001

Message:
Justice, look what they've written.  Any Psychiatrist will tell 
you - "there's a person on the edge ready to snap.  Their 
future, and the future of those around them is in great peril."

They are the type that when your mother accidently cuts them off 
on the highway, they'd chase her down and punch her out, if not 
kill her.

To use the excuse it's O'K because bodies are still burning in 
the ashes doesn't cut it.

If they had posted that they themselves lost a brother, a 
parent, a friend, or even somebody they knew, most of us would 
have sympathy and could easily understand their rage.  But they 
didn't make such a claim.  If they had.  I'd have said nothing 
and accepted their anger as simply created by and from great 
personal loss.

This is not rage.  It is simply hate.  They simply want to hate 
for the sake of hate.  If it were not focused at the children of 
Afghanistan it would be focused at the children of some other 
race.

Here is a copy (word for word) of what he posted:

Muslims in Florida,  BE AWARE!!!  I will not stop my car for 
you, your wives or your children.  If you get in front of me, 
You will end up in the hospital or worse.  This is in no way a 
threat.  Just a promise

*****

If that's not a guy on the edge, a sure sign of serious 
problems, and if you can't see it, then you also must have 
similiar mental problems.

John
E pluribus unum


PS   for those who don't know what E pluribus unum means-  it 
means:  Out of many, One.

It's a symbolizes for this nation (found on our money) the great 
unity of all our peoples from all points of this world who 
helped build this great nation.

Decades from today, Americans will look back in similiar fashion 
at Arabs and those of the Islamic faith, similiar to - how we 
look upon the Japanese Americans or German Americans today.  As 
Americans, and just Americans.

E pluribus unum

From: Holland/Italy
To:
Subject: Words don't hurt
Date: Wed Oct 24 16:49:22 2001

Message:
I dont't mind the foul language being used on this board; as 
someone mentioned correctly; the whole idea of it was for people 
to vent their feelings, which at the moment are feelings of 
hate, frustration and justified anger.
As a matter of fact, sometimes I have to laugh at the ugly 
fantasy used, I don't really think most of these guys would hurt 
anybody once they get from behind their computer. In Holland we 
have a saying that goes: barking dogs don't bite. Except for the 
ones fighting in Afghanistan of course, but they have to keep up 
the adrenalin. I especially thought the A- drawing of the 
Tomahawk and the "Hit and Run"- A-bomb was quit good and very 
creative. 
The only thing I do mind, having been in Iran, Iraq, Syria, 
Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia, Somalia and other Muslim 
countries, that those people have a complete different idea of 
society than we do. All the admirers of Bin Laden (and every day 
that passes without him being taken, their number increases!)
enjoy Americans having a fit over what they provoked, they wish 
for nothing else. They don't speak their thoughts out loud, and 
they think that makes them superior to (sometimes naive) 
Americans. ESD posted an interesting speech by R. James Woolsey, 
ex- director of the CIA. He says: "We are now facing an enemy 
from a part of the world where the aspects of war for many 
centuries have been clandestine raids, assasinations, terror 
against civilians and deception. In response to the 
challenge "come out and fight like a man" we will only get 
smirks in the shadows and more Anthrax, or worse...  These dogs 
don't bark, but they do bite.
Everybody is worried about Anthrax, I am worried about other 
things, why does Rumsfeld say that Bin Laden may never be 
caught? I hope that he is only trying to sidetrack the enemy. It 
would not be good for our reputation if Bin Laden, just like 
Saddam did, will be the only one still standing on the 
chessboard once the war is over.
Also, I don't feel good about a lot of things, I know Bush said 
that we were not going to be informed about everything going on 
in this war, but sometimes I wonder..
-Toulouse (remember one of the persons killed wore a typical 
kamikaze-suit:five pairs of underpants, one on top of the other).
-The plane-crash on the flight from Tel Aviv to Novosibirsk - I 
really don't believe in the Ukranian missile. I believe in what 
was stated in the Debka-files: a bomb planted in Novosibirsk the 
day before.
-The SAS plane-crash in Milano-Linate, on the first day the 
attacks started in Afghanistan. Strangely enough, Bin Laden's 
brother, Yeslam Bin laden, had made a lot of misterious visits 
to that city in the months prior to what happened.
-Even yesterdays accident in the St.Gotthard-tunnel,why did the 
roof collaps, maybe a bomb in a kamikaze-truck?
And now salmonella germs were sent to Clinton, what lies ahead 
of us?
  



     

From: Bob
To: Joe, Eagle Eye etc.
Date: Thu Oct 25 14:31:02 2001

Message:
Looking at some of the things on this 
site that spewed daily by people like Eagle Eye & Joe, it is 
understandable why so many people around the world hate 
Americans. It is pitiful that you people have so much rage in 
your bodies. Is it maybe a case of not enough sex therefore too 
much testosterone? Get real guys; you are not going to get 
anywhere with attitudes like these. In fact I'm willing to put 
money on the fact that most of the people saying these things 
have never been out of America, if not their front rooms.

From: John
To: EagleEye
Subject: The Second Line in the Sand
Date: Thu Oct 25 14:26:08 2001

Message:
You selectively read parts of my writings to find what you 
object to.  You fail to absorb its full content.

I've answered this question numerous times within my writings.

Here's what you asked:  Call it out Johnny - Pro or Anti US war 
on Bin Laden/Taliban/Al-
Qda?


#1 - I am Pro-War with regard this conflict and all conflicts & 
operations our government has undertaken that I have knowledge 
of.  Including Truman's use of the Bomb to save the lives of 
Americans to terminate the war early.

#2 - I simply ascertain the target here is al Quaeda, Taliban, 
probably Saddam and numerous terrorist groups including Hammas, 
Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah any and all terrorists groups our 
government targets.  I DO NOT condone the murder of innocent 
women and children.  That's my whole point.  Why is it so 
difficult for you to see that.  Why would you want to stoop to 
the level of those evil evil men by murdering the children?

#3 - I voted for George W. Bush, Bob Dole, George H. Bush, 
Ronald Reagan (my hero), at each election.

#4 - As a youngster I was a member of the Young Republican Club

#5 - I'm a fulltime listener of conservative talk radio.  I love 
Rush, Bob Grant, Al Rantel (spelling ?) etc.  I a fairly new 
listener of Larry Elder (Libertarian - he's converting me)

#6 - I subscribe to numerous conservative newsletters.  My 
favorite is Town Hall - if you want to subscibe cut and paste - 
http://www.townhall.com/newsletters/


Now - To reiterate:  I simply ascertain the target here is al 
Quaeda, Taliban, probably Saddam and numerous terrorist groups 
including Hammas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah any and all 
terrorists groups our government targets.  I DO NOT condone the 
murder of innocent women and children.  And those who do are of 
the minority in this country.  No poll will ever be done.  But 
you can be certain, if ever a poll was taken as to whether the 
target should be the innocents of Afghanistan, it would look 
like this:

99.5%  against targeting women and children
.5% for


John
E pluribus unum

Still not certain -  Here's a piece I (I) wrote last week.

  
October 18, 2001

The Second Line in the Sand


President George the 2nd is reasonably reluctant to point the 
finger in the right direction for fear of alienating some Arab 
states within our present coalition.  The Bush Doctrine's 
coalition will change at the approaching conclusion of this 
battle and focus will turn to Iraq's dictator Saddam Hussein.  
Following the topple of Sadam the target will again change.  
This time to the PLO and Palestinian terror groups - Hamas and 
the Islamic Jihad, and most assuredly the Iranian/Syrian terror 
group Hezbollah based in Lebanon.

Secretary of State Colin Powell, the coalition designer, whose 
nails have been clipped by the administration, solely to appease 
moderate Arab states, has an arduous task in the coming days.  
Again, for the third time in weeks, Powell will request Israel 
seek no (or little) retaliation against the PLO.  Israel 
hopefully will abide as they did when Saddam sent 39 scud 
missiles into Israel during the Gulf War.  It is quite different 
this time though.  Tuesday, Israel's Cabinet Minister Rehavam 
Ze'evi was executed, seemingly without Arafat's order.  The 
killing was claimed by the terrorist group The Popular Front for 
the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP),  part of the Palestine 
Liberation Organization.  Yassar Arafat allows militant groups 
to operate freely in his territory.  This shelter for terror is 
mirrored to the Taliban and how they allow the al Quaeda to 
operate in Afghanistan.  The killing of Minister Ze'evi was said 
to be in retaliation for the August 27th  killing of the 
Palestinian leader Mustafa Zibri in an Israeli missile attack.   
The Palestinian National Authority (PNA) says "the bullets fired 
at  Ze'evi were also aimed at the ceasefire."  So the actual 
purpose for the killing was to circumvent truce talks underway.  
The terrorist's need the Israeli/ Palestinian conflict to 
escalate in order to further cultivate moderate Islamic 
sympathies and to further their radical martyr recruitment 
effort, those willing to die for Allah in pursuit of Islamizing 
the world and driving the Infidel's and Zionist's from their 
claimed sacred lands.  Secretary Powell must convince Prime 
Minister Sharon that the war against terrorism will be won, but 
in battles of our choosing, on our timetable, and not the 
terrorists.   Retaliation is promised by Israel at the end of 
the mourning period for Minister Ze'evi, early next week.  For 
Powell, time is of the essence.

Weeks ago President George W. Bush drew the "first coalition" 
line in the sand.  Soon after Taliban and Sadam are damned the 
President will draw a new line in the sand.  This line will be 
more like a ditch in the dirt.  He will demand this time -
 "You're either with us, or you are with the terrorist's."
  
E  pluribus  unum
John

PPS   This is not about killing children.  It's about terrorism.



From: Holland/Italy
To: John
Subject: Don't be so fucking patronizing!!
Date: Thu Oct 25 15:26:31 2001

Message:
The subject is the message

From: John
To: Holland/Italy
Subject: Don't be so fucking patronizing!!
Date: Thu Oct 25 15:36:37 2001

Message:
If you define patronizing as: to treat in an offensingly 
condescending manner?

When it comes to condoning the murder of innocent children, 
there is no other applicable reasonable manner to utilize in 
order to make for correction to unreasonable thinking such as, 
other than by intensive therapy.

All the best to you.

John
E pluribus unum

From: Holland/Italy
To: John
Date: Thu Oct 25 15:47:07 2001

Message:
Webster: -Condescend: to be affable toward those regarded as 
inferior rank. 
I thought you would not look upon any human being as being 
inferior, you know words cannot be mistaken for actions. 
  

From: radio europe
To: John
Subject: 2nd line in the sand
Date: Thu Oct 25 15:28:59 2001

Message:
This isn't even about terrorism, John.
This actually isnt even about war. This is far worse.
This is about a  religion turned into a sick doctrine.

So sick, actually, that  it's followers -wherever in the world 
are capable of  or agree with- committing the worst kind of 
atrocities thinkable. And we are sick enough ourselves to 
listen to them, to attend conferences where some imman 
from a godforsaken war-torn country comes to tell us how 
degenerated we are.

Degenerated we are if we do not deal with this aptly, if we do 
not defend a system based on basic human rights.

Degenerated we are if we even let some  turbanwearing 
self-declared holyman speak his doctrine out into the free 
world, with his own people dieing  in the background for a 
religion that has more repect for fasting than it has for life 
itself.

Degenerated are we, if we do not prove them wrong, if we 
neglect the history and the fighting that was done to come to 
the values we live by today. 

Degenerated are we if we do not show it's indoctrinated, 
isolated followers that we live by laws made democraticly , 
from the consent within decent people.

Degenerated are we, if we cannot or will not defend, with all 
possible force, the human achievement of this free world.

Read some history books, the Mores got kicked out of Spain 
only after they had finished of and destroyed what was left of 
classic culture in Europe.

So, let's destry them, before they destroy us...


From: John
To: Holland/Italy
Subject: RE: you know words cannot be mistaken for actions.
Date: Thu Oct 25 16:02:39 2001

Message:
RE: "you know words cannot be mistaken for actions."

It is the words that promote the hate that cause the action.  
Example - The misinterpretation of the Koran by Fundementalists 
Islamics.  The majority of Islam's interpretation differs 
greatly.

In this case to promote the hatred of all Islam, promoting its 
destruction is a call to action similiar.

All the best,

From: John
To: radio europe
Subject: religion turned into a sick doctrine.
Date: Thu Oct 25 16:14:17 2001

Message:
Hi Radio,  I at first believed this.  I still may.  I'm hoping 
maybe it will be possible to circumvent this scourge by nipping 
it in the bud.  I suspect the required assinations and 'enemy' 
losses at war will number in the hundreds of thousands or less, 
and not millions.

John
E...

From: ton
To: john and simon
Subject: remember 6000 wtc dead
Date: Thu Oct 25 16:26:26 2001

Message:
i just want to say that we are pissed at the afgans   who else 
can we blame  we all know bin laden is the scum bag behind this  
we are at war with afgan not bin laden  at this point he is the 
leader of afgan   so of course we have to bomb afgan to get him  
if he hides in kabol than we must bomb the cities  regardless of 
who dies  lets face it bin laden did not care and all the afgan 
people did not care  right    right john  if you had an ounce of 
brains you would understand i am correct..   i am always right  
trust me  we have to bomb those rag headed mother fuckers in 
afgan anf iraq    i'll bet if we do than the problem in the us 
will end.     remember japan  nagasaki and heromisha   well we 
had to  and you know in case you don't, you dumb ass   that ended 
the war..     remember that!!!!  see john you never can stop 
learning   even you!!!!  where are you from  john..  i am from 
the great state of florida  if you are not aware of it   its in 
the great   U S A.     HAY JOE FROM FLORIDA  YOU ARE SO RIGHT 
......  WELL  SEE YA  WE HAVE ONLY ABOUT 5000 MORE AFGANS TO 
INCINARATE or melt down  oh what ever you know what i mean  right 
john  

we love ya

ton

From: Tweety
To: Eagle Eye and Joe in Florida and Free Europe
Subject: KEEP POSTING
Date: Thu Oct 25 16:38:41 2001

Message:
Ilove listening to the three of you.  You guys are really 
great.  I want to peck out the eyes of the taliban and 
especially the children.  They are taught in the womb to hate.  
They are trained to use guns when they are three years old.  
They need to be aborted inside the womb from the Muslim whores.  
afghanistan allows BIn Laden to be the guest.  Afghanistan is a 
shit country.  This is Tweety.  Over and out.  PS note to 
British soldiers: Please keep dropping that mad cow disease food 
on these stupid bastards.  

From: John
To: radio europe
Subject: BTW
Date: Thu Oct 25 16:52:44 2001

Message:
BTW Radio,  Good argument and absolutely great piece of 
writing.  Bring forth more.  Thanks,

John
E...

From: Tweety
To: Muslims stink like shit
Subject: Explain why you dont clean yourselves?
Date: Thu Oct 25 17:56:31 2001

Message:
Hou cum there is no deodorant in your country?  How come your 
women bitches dont have kotex but use rags instead?  They are 
not allowed to shave their twats either.  The twats and beards 
all have to stay the same length better for allah to eat them. 
LMGDMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Die you fucken diaper rag wearers.

From: EagleEye
To: radio europe
Subject: good points .....
Date: Thu Oct 25 17:52:22 2001

Message:
radio, good points all around, I may add that I feel our friend 
John - who I will no longer call a liberal, [I can give credit 
where its due, though John will likely resent it ... oh well]

john has been duped or is in denial about the sheer numbers and 
depth of the American hating Muslim religion.  I however; see 
through their thinly "veiled" hatred.  Sorry John that I lay it 
all out like it is.  I prefer to go full throttle at the enemy - 
all of them seen and unseen - until proved wrong.  Id rather 
throttle down than have to continually throttle up to match the 
intensity of the enemies hatred.

In an ealier post John you said you still held out ... what was 
it ... "Hope" that the majority of Muslims are as you would 
prefer .... what .. able to "stomach" americans?

You want to talk about hate for the sake of hate ... what about 
how they hate Jews?  What,  are you anti semetic John?  How do 
you "over-look" the muslim faiths known and pronounced hate of 
the Jew?

Because you dont hate your enemy as much as they hate you - does 
that make you a bigger/better person?

From: EagleEye
To: John
Subject: Islamic Terrorism vs. Children
Date: Thu Oct 25 18:46:43 2001

Message:
Is there such thing as an "innocent" afghani/american Hating 
Muslim child?  Seems like the next bin Laden.

Are you over the stupid freakin Joe Florida crap yet? at 
least .......

From: Everyman
To: All
Subject: I'm not the only one
Date: Thu Oct 25 18:51:38 2001

Message:
Anthrax letter analyst doubts writer is Muslim 


PETER SLEVIN, THE WASHINGTON POST 

WASHINGTON -- The phrases in the anthrax letters delivered to 
New York and Washington are short, assertive and not always 
written in proper English. One declaration to a hand-printed 
line, they promise death and boast of invincibility. One asks a 
question: "Are you afraid?" 

As the FBI focuses on threats that have frightened the nation, a 
private analyst who studied the letters that accompanied the 
deadly bacteria, said Wednesday that he believes the notes sent 
to NBC anchor Tom Brokaw, the New York Post and Senate Majority 
Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., were written by two different people 
working together. 

Gerald "Gary" Brown, a retired Air Force counterterrorism 
specialist, said he doubts the authors were Muslims or recent 
arrivals to the United States, and also doubts the anthrax 
attacks were directly connected to the Sept. 11 assault. 

"We believe this is home grown," said Brown, cautioning that he 
and his partners at a Beaverton, Ore., firm were making educated 
guesses. He speculated that the Daschle letter was crafted to 
attract attention after the anthrax letters sent previously to 
news organizations garnered too tepid a response. 

Brown noted that the Daschle letter specifically mentioned 
anthrax, which the media letters -- one a photocopy of the 
other -- did not, suggesting that the author wanted to guarantee 
attention. Twenty-eight people were exposed to the bacteria in 
that envelope. 

But the letters, taken together, are anything but definitive, 
said Brown and other analysts who examined the three notes 
released Tuesday by the FBI. They said a persuasive case could 
be made that the letters were crafted by someone unfamiliar with 
English phrases and uncomfortable with American handwriting, a 
foreign terrorist, for example. 

Several also said that an equally persuasive argument could be 
made for the case that the letters are disguises designed by a 
native English-speaker who wanted to point attention for the 
anthrax attack elsewhere -- to a foreign terrorist, for example. 

The Bush administration has been operating under the suspicion 
that the anthrax attacks in Washington, New York and Florida are 
connected to the Sept. 11 suicide hijackings blamed on Osama bin 
Laden's al-Qaida terror network. 

The Brokaw and New York Post letters were postmarked Sept. 18 in 
Trenton, N.J. The Daschle letter was postmarked Oct. 9 in the 
same place. 

A reading of the three letters and three envelopes shows that 
the punctuation and the penmanship vary. No sentence is longer 
than five words and there are just 39 words in the two letters 
combined. 

"This is not natural handwriting," said forgery expert Richard 
T. Galasso. "The baseline quality of all this writing is poor. 
The slow, deliberate, labored writing is either disguised or ... 
could mean the writer is unskilled or not very literate in 
writing English." 

Galasso said the numeral "1" was crafted from three lines, as 
if "writing from a text. This is the way you would formulate 
ones when you were learning in kindergarten. It's a person who 
could be attempting to be child-like in deception." 


From: Normal
To: All Jihaad Believers
Subject: Life is short...Play hard
Date: Thu Oct 25 18:07:25 2001

Message:
Eradicate Islamic extremists, and the rest of the world might..
live on to become a better place. There is no place on earth for 
them or the false prophet they follow. I had a real live and let 
live view on different religions, customs, etc.. until I started
checking out some websites (type in Islam on any search engine)
and read up on their violent and self righteous traditions.
Christianity is a religion that focuses on works of LIVING men.
Islam is a big fucking JIHAAD, for the sake of sex in an 
afterlife. Wake UP Muslims. It's the DEVIL you're following!!! 

From:
To:
Date: Thu Oct 25 18:53:31 2001

Message:
ONLY LIGHT CAN OVERCOME DARKNESS

From: Anonymous
To: All followers of Allah
Subject: Us bombings
Date: Thu Oct 25 19:09:05 2001

Message:
For those that hate america and love Allah I say this to you: 
You will never get America to leave that region unless you 
remove the Jewish strangle hold on our media.  Americans are 
blinded by the truth of whats going on in Palestine, because 
Jews control our media.  Not all of us agree with the bombings 
and we know that Isreal is using the US as a puppet to fight its 
war with Muslims in Palestine.  

From: Simon
To: Ton
Date: Thu Oct 25 19:05:47 2001

Message:
The bombing of Nagasaki & Hiroshima did 
not stop the war against Japan(Why do you condone such terrible 
acts?). The Japanese surrendered because they thought that the 
USA had more bombs. It didn't. It is estimated that it would 
have taken another six months to develop another one.
                      The bombing of Yugoslavia didn't topple 
Milosevic. It strengthened the people's support of him. The 
bombing of Iraq achieved nothing-Hussein is still in power. He 
has outlived George H Bush. He has outlived Stormin Norman, 
Margaret Thatcher, John Major & many others. He might even 
outlive George W Bush. The bombing of Libya didn't topple 
Kadaffi. Nor has the bombing of Palestine by Israel toppled 
Arafat. Would someone also remind me of what happened in Somalia?
                       It is important to remember that the 
Afghan people did not choose for Bin Laden to come & live with 
them. He is the guest of a brutal & despotic regime that has 
taken Afghanistan(previously one of the world's poorest 
countries) to a new level of poverty, misery & depression. It is 
an ostracized organ which was only ever recognised by three 
countries(UAE, Saudi Arabia & Pakistan) & has kept Afghanistan 
under sanctions since its arrival in 1995. Bin Laden is their 
guest because he helped them take over the country by buying 
them 200 Toyota Hixus jeeps which they used as troop carriers. 
It would have been churlish of them to refuse to offer 
hospitality. The Afghan people hate Bin Laden, Al Qa'ida & the & 
Taliban. The only reason they do not revolt is because they are 
too weary.
                     Afghanistan is not a country where everyone 
is Afghan first & their etnic origin second. it is a tribal 
country where tribal allegiances are the initial loyalty. Then 
comes the ethnic origin. Finally they are Afghan. It is very 
hard for Americans to realise the difficulty in creating a multi-
representative fair democracy in this most unfortunate country, 
which not only has a beautiful & ancient culture, but was one of 
the most advanced countries in the middle east & where female 
emancipation had reached its highest level, before the Soviet 
invasion of Christmas Day 1979. If I am correct, the Afghans 
were the American's greatest friends at the time.
                       The United States of America is a great 
country. It's meritocratic values are to be respected & 
appreciated. It is a country where effort & application are 
valued & prized more highly than in other parts of the world. 
However, it & its people are not infallible. They are not always 
right.
                        I would be willing to take up the bet 
with you that the bombing would solve the problem. It will most 
probably serve to inflame the situation. George W Bush should be 
praised for his conviction to stand by a monumental decision, 
even though it is not the a very good decision. Donald Rumsfeld 
said that they may never find Bin Laden. We shall see.
                         We remember the 5000 dead in the WTC. 
But do we remember the two million in Cambodia? The million in 
Vietnam? The hundreds of thousands ion Korea? We have short 
memories. This is an intrinsic characteristic of our nature. Do 
we really have to kill 5000 Afghanis? Do not forget that Bin 
Laden & most of his followers are Saudi. So who is guilty? The 
Sauidis or the Afghanis? Oh, & which Afghanis do we kill? The 
Pashtunis, Uzbeks or Tajiks? And what do we do about the 
Christian Afghanis?

From: Bombs Away
To: eat shit liberal fucks
Subject: Kill a taliban today
Date: Thu Oct 25 19:31:40 2001

Message:
Stupid liberal fucks.  This aint the sixties morons. Oh, lets 
try to UNDERSTAND why they did this to us. Come on people grow 
the fuck up already.  These pablum eating liberal tree huggers 
make me want to shit!  I would like to ask the web host to 
please put some emotions captions on here, like smiley faces, or 
evil faces, or HEY MAYBE SOME PHOTOS OF DOGS!  lol. Asshama, we 
are cumming after you and your mama.  You danced at your sons 
wedding as our people were dying by the thousands I hear.  Well, 
let us show you some dancing, we will have you dancing real 
soon.  I am pissed off that the United States pulled strings to 
get your family members that were here in California out 
safely.  They should have been the first ones killed.  
COCKSUCKER!  I live to hear of your death.  

From: Betty Boop
To: Joe in Florida
Subject: I like you
Date: Thu Oct 25 20:05:42 2001

Message:
Joe, you have the GREATEST sense of humor.  I cant stand the 
middle east and muslims have always struck me as very EVIL.  
When I see them walk down the street, I want to vomit.  These 
people need to be eradicated from the face of this earth.  Why 
isnt the government rounding them up like they did in Japan and 
get them out of America.  It would be so much SIMPLER to trace 
the Anthrax if it came from over seas.  DEATH TO ALL TERRORISTS 
AND THEIR FAMILIES. MAY THEIR SHORES FOREVER BE FLOODED WITH 
BLOOD

From: EagleEye
To: John
Subject: Anonymous and the Jewish Media
Date: Thu Oct 25 19:57:18 2001

Message:
Read anonymous' post.  Classic Muslim ALLAH luvin Jihide crap.

When will these ignorant peasant muslim excriment for brains 
realise that the Jews and especially americans are a superior 
civilization, and in the end will use them for farm animals if 
they dont abandon their baseless zeal for ALLAH as protrayed by 
that degenerate "prophet" MooooowRaghead, and quit killing 
civi's, stealing planes, aquiring nukes and bio weapons.

When will they realize their ALLAH has foresaken them to hell on 
earth in his giant kitty litter box.  They get expelled, covered 
with sand, and buried - just like feces.  Quite appropriate Id 
say. 

Anyone care to discuss the Afghani Opium crop problem?  These 
piece of shit innocent civi afghans grow and use this shit like 
you drink water - and they poisen the World with their one GDP.

Maypalm perhaps?  Id love to see the whole shit fuck mess be 
turned into a glass blowers paradise.  How hot do you need to 
get sand before it glazes?  Hey and John ..... all the kids who 
havent yet gone to the maddrasses can leave first - but the 
three yr old Kalishnakov toting little fucks burning the Stars 
and Stripes are gonna be tint in the backarac [sp? - too lazy]

What a bonus that the bin laden douche bags and Towel e ban are 
using civi's as Human Shields.  If the dumb shits would leave, 
then the "towl e ban" couldnt do it.  So either they look 
forward to the towel e ban to protect them and are on their 
side, or are so fucking stupid - where's the loss?  If the towel 
e ban were so concerend for their people - why use them as a 
shield - where's that in the Koran?

Bet theres a few russian mothers laffin their ever lovin asses 
off right now as they recall the stories of their sons being 
staked in the blazing Afghan desert to a cross with their 
eyelids cut off.  John, could we send you over to afghanistan so 
you could explain the Geneva convention to these pieces of shit?

I can get you a screamin deal on Travelocity right now.  Or how 
bout we book you on a trip to Indonesia so you can chill with 
all those NICE muslims you "HOPE" are not ANTI-US.

From: joe(Florida)
To: Betty Boop
Subject: Thank you
Date: Thu Oct 25 20:36:32 2001

Message:
Hi there Miss Boop,

I wish i knew the answer to that.  i believe they all should bve 
rounded up and exterminated myself.  But maybe uncle sam will 
get the message after this antrax thing gets blown out.  Who 
else would be idiotic enough to do this but them rag head goat 
fuckers.  But Betty, keep up the good work, if us americans 
stick togeather we will knock the shit out of the pests.  See ya 
later

Joe

From: ton
To: john and simon
Subject: afgan's must be destroyed
Date: Thu Oct 25 20:39:39 2001

Message:
well i'm back i heard we have only 5000 left to murder like the 
way they killed  at the  W T C .  IN CASE YOU FOOLS FORGOT  if i 
was a pilot  i would be aiming at hospitals and large homes   you 
know what i mean.   bin laden is the ruler of afgan people and 
therefor the country must suffer the grave ness of a melt down   

  how do you like those apples   john you are from   if you have 
the balls to say   i am from florida  great  u s a.

From: ton `
To: any afgan sympathizer
Subject: afgan sucks
Date: Thu Oct 25 20:45:52 2001

Message:
well i have a plan  why not drop mustard gas on those bastards do 
you know  what that shit will do to you first you get so sick  
you vomit your stomach empty  then you vomit part of your stomach 
out than your dead  after   you suffer     to good for those scum 
bags in afgan   

From: ton
To: well john not much from you
Subject: hi
Date: Thu Oct 25 20:52:58 2001

Message:
well simon your almost right   but it seems like the BIG BOMBS 
WILL END IT QUIK YOU SEE THE BIG DIFFERENCE KNOW IS     DAH   WE 
HAVE MORE  AND THEY KNOW IT   SO IT WILL WORK  HUH   DAH  

From: Joe(Florida)
To: Bob
Subject: hahahahah
Date: Thu Oct 25 20:44:16 2001

Message:
Bob, Bob, Bob,

Hate to tell you this, but not lacking in the sex department, 
and well you would lose the bet about not leaving the front 
yard.  lets see,  i have been where them rag head goat fuckers 
live, So i have experienced first hand there fuck up culture.  
HAVE YOU???  Or are you someone that never leaves there PC like 
most.  I think they call that anxiety disordor.  Oh well, My 
beef isnt with you, or any other person. Unless of course you 
are one of the rag head fucks that everyone is mentioning here. 
Well Im sorry that you dont agree with the hatred and Anger I 
feel, thats a pity, if you had family that got killed because of 
them, maybe things would be different, or even know someone that 
perished.  See ya Later

Joe

From: TON
To: SIMON
Subject: NUMBERS COUNT
Date: Thu Oct 25 20:58:36 2001

Message:
you must agree with me its a numbers game right!  well afgans 
killed 5000  we have to  and must kill 5000  you see you are 
fooled by  the fact that all the low life scum bags where from 
all over the mid east    but  what does that mean  we just stop 
bombing and take there shit     no   way    you know the big bomb 
is coming sooner or later    face it man   they will not stop 
terror until we show them we are not taking there shit   we have 
to nuke them   now!

From: ANTAMERICAN
To: ALL
Subject: YOU WILL ALL DIE YOU FUCKED UP YANKS!
Date: Thu Oct 25 21:06:21 2001

Message:
YOU YANKS ARE FUCKING STUPID AND ARE GOING TO 
DIE!!!! SUCKED IN MOTHER FUCKERS!!! ARABS SMELL 
BUT WILL KILL YOU DUMB ASS AMERICANS!!!

From: to
To: joe from fl.
Subject: holy war my ass j c in the 1 st
Date: Thu Oct 25 21:04:24 2001

Message:
hi  its me  and not much from  rag head tonite  jon must be 
praying to allah  holy war thay say  i fell jesus will kick 
allah's ass  in the first round by a knock out   about 30 sec.

From: theE.S.D.
To:
Subject: HeadlineNews:SpecialEdition
Date: Thu Oct 25 21:05:26 2001

Message:
Stoning to Death in Iran:
A Crime Against Humanity 
Carried Out By the Mullahs' Regime  

Note: Stoning to death is a pre-Islamic practice  condemned 
by the Islamic religeon. 
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Stoning in Iran,  The Washington Times, February 27  

"The condemned are wrapped head to foot in white shrouds 
and buried up to their waists.  

"Then the stoning begins. The stones are specifically 
chosen so they are large enough to cause pain, but not so 
large as to kill the condemned immediately. They are 
guaranteed a slow, torturous death. Sometimes their 
children are forced to watch. Their offense is usually 
adultery.  

"This is capital punishment Iranian [mullahs'] style, even 
under the so-called moderate new president, Mohammed 
Khatami." 
------------------------------------------------------------------------

The video clip you are about to see,  is not easy to watch. It 
depicts graphic scenes of people being stoned to death for 
"moral" offenses, a barbaric practice all too common in Iran 
under the mullahs. The documentary was smuggled out at 
great risk by supporters of the major Iranian opposition 
movement, the People's Mojahedin. It is atypical only in that 
the victims on this particular day were men. Most often, 
women are stoned to death, usually for prostitution. If they 
are mothers, their children are often required by law to 
attend the atrocity, to watch them "repent" for their sins.  

The film shows one man being lashed and four other men 
being stoned to death. Among those in attendance are the 
Chief Religious Judge of the Armed Forces and a number of 
Security commanders. Enshrouded in white sheets and tied 
to restrain them, the victims are buried up to the waist in 
sand. Then they are slowly tortured to death. To prolong 
their torment, the medieval law of the mullahs even 
stipulates that stones too small to cause sufficient pain, and 
those so large as to kill the victims too swiftly, are illegal at a 
stoning.  
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Some items form the Penal Code of the mullahs' regime:  

* The penalty for adultery under Article 83 of the penal code, 
called the Law of Hodoud is flogging (100 lashes of the 
whip) for unmarried male and female offenders. Married 
offenders may be punished by stoning regardless of their 
gender, but the method laid down for a man involves his 
burial up to his waist, and for a woman up to her neck 
(article 102) 
* Article 104 of the Law of Hodoud provides that the stones 
should not be so large that a person dies after being hit with 
two of them, nor so small as to be defined as pebbles, but 
must cause severe injury. This makes it clear that the 
purpose of stoning is to inflict grievous pain on the victim, in 
a process leading to his or her slow death. 

The Iranian regime carries out stoning in the name of Islam. 
This is done in order to intimidate and terrorize the public. 
Since taking office, not once has Mohammad Khatami 
uttered a word against stoning. In fact, his government 
spokesman and Guidance Minister, Ata'ollah Mohajeri, said 
in a recent interview that he approves of stoning, but that it 
should be carried out in the presence of a small group of 
people whose loyalty to the regime is established so as to 
prevent the news or films of the horrific scene from being 
made available to the Iranian public and an international 
audience.It must be mentioned that, as it was declared by 
Mr. Massoud Rajavi, President of the National Council of 
Resistance on the occasion of Eid-al Fitr (January 29, 
1998): Stoning is not an Islamic punishment and the Quran 
makes no mention of it.  

Where does Mohammad Khatami (the so called "moderate 
president") and his "Cabinet" stand on stoning?  

Ever since May 1997, when Mohammad Khatami took office, 
he has been telling the world that he is going to make sure 
that law and order prevail in Iran.... He has certainly done 
that on the issue of stoning people to death:  

On October 26, 1997, Associated Press, reported:  

"Iran Stones Six to Death,  
TEHRAN - Three men and three women have been stoned 
to death in public in northern Iran after a court found them 
guilty of adultery and prostitution, a newspaper reported 
Sunday.  

The report said the stoning was carried out by local citizens 
in public in town near the Caspian Sea.  

Under Iran's Islamic laws, prostitution and adultery are 
illegal and punishable by death" 
Not only "president" Khatami did not oppose the above 
stoning, but the members of his "Cabinet" continue to 
support this savage act:  
  

Pro-Government Daily Ressalat, April 9 , 1998  

In response to a question raised by the correspondent of 
Farda daily on why the Minister had failed to defend the 
Islamic punishment of stoning in his Paris interviews, 
Ata'ollah Mohajerani [government spokesman and Minister 
of Guidance] said: "There is no doubt that we must all 
defend the Islamic decrees... As for stoning, there is a 
Quranic verse that says a group of faithful must be witness 
to it. In this regard there is a debate whether stoning should 
take place in full public view or whether it could be carried 
out in the presence of a limited number of faithfuls in a 
restricted area."  

The Minister of Islamic Guidance pointed out: "We should 
keep the interests of our country in mind in an open 
atmosphere of international public relations. Would it be in 
our interest if an act of stoning is filmed and broadcast 
abroad? If not, we should consider carrying out 
the verdict in front of a small crowd of the believers in order 
to forestall public backlash.

The stoning of women is one of the more savage, and 
revealing aspects of the mullahs' rule in Iran. This vicious 
punishment of women is without precedent in Iran's recent 
history. Since the inception of the mullahs' rule, hundreds of 
women of various ages have been and continue to be 
stoned to death throughout Iran.  

What makes this hideous crime even more abhorrent is that 
it is carried out under the name of Islam. The Quran and the 
Prophet of Islam despised such behavior. On the contrary, 
in the Quran and the Prophet's traditions, such barbarism is 
denounced. The Prophet did his utmost to eradicate 
backward traditions, including stoning, which victimized 
women.  

The authorities of the Islamic Republic have attempted to 
explain away stoning in Iran, as noted in the report by the 
U.N. Special Representative on Iran, as something that 
takes place only in remote and culturally backward areas. 
Actually, stoning and other cruel punishments are used by 
the regime to extend their reign of terror, while internationally 
Tehran tries to deny responsibility. It must be noted that:  

1- The responsibility for any inhuman punishment, 
regardless of where it takes place, lies with the judiciary and 
the state,  

2- Stoning and other cruel punishments taking place in the 
Islamic Republic of Iran are not a matter of individual 
discretion; rather, they are defined by the law of the land, 
and such sentences are issued based on these laws.  

The penalty for adultery under Article 83 of the penal code, 
called the Law of Hodoud is flogging (100 lashes of the 
whip) for unmarried male and female offenders. Married 
offenders may be punished by stoning regardless of their 
gender, but the method laid down for a man involves his 
burial up to his waist, and for a woman up to her neck 
(article 102). The law provides that if a person who is to be 
stoned manages to escape, he or she will be allowed to go 
free. Since it is easier for a man to escape, this 
discrimination literally becomes a matter of life and death.  

Interestingly, Article 6 (2) of the International Covenant on 
Civil and Political Rights, which Iran has ratified, states: 
"Sentence of death may be imposed only for the most 
serious crimes in accordance with the law in force at the 
time of the commission of the crime." Offenses for which the 
Law of Hodoud provides the death penalty do not involve 
murder or serious bodily harm, constituting the "most 
serious crimes".  

Article 104 of the Law of Hodoud provides that the stones 
should not be so large that a person dies after being hit with 
two of them, nor so small as to be defined as pebbles, but 
must cause severe injury. This makes it clear that the 
purpose of stoning is to inflict grievous pain on the victim, in 
a process leading to his or her slow death.  
  

3- All execution orders and verdicts of stoning must be 
upheld by the supreme court in Tehran irrespective of where 
they were issued. Therefore, the regime's justification is 
absurd.  

- The video is a documentary recording of four individuals 
being stoned in one of the security centers in Tehran in the 
presence of high ranking officials of the regime's judiciary. 
The video tape, smuggled out of the country by the 
Mojahedin, shows the representative of the prosecutor 
reading out the verdicts. He declares that the verdicts were 
issued by Ali Razini, the head of Judicial Organization of the 
Military Forces. Razini can be seen in the video tape, and 
throws the first stone. The prosecutor of military forces, 
Niazi, is also present. Razini is currently the head of 
Tehran's Justice Department and also heads the "Special 
Clerical Court."  

Anecdotes of this brutal process reveal ever more of cruelty. 
The regime's authorities usually force the victim's family 
members, including children, to watch the stoning to death 
of their loved one, and in some instances, when the woman 
miraculously managed to escape, contrary to the regime's 
own law, she was recaptured and either stoned again or 
killed on the spot.  

On August 10, 1994, in the city of Arak, a woman was 
sentenced to death by stoning. According to the ruling of the 
religious judge, her husband and two children were forced 
to attend the execution. The woman urged her husband to 
take the children away, but to no avail. A truck full of stones 
was brought in to be used during the stoning. In the middle 
of the stoning, although her eyes had been gouged out, the 
victim was able to escape from the ditch and started running 
away, but the regime's guards recaptured her and shot her 
to death.  

In October 1989 in the city of Qom, a woman who was being 
stoned managed to pull herself out of the hole, only to be 
forced back into it and stoned to death. In justifying the 
murder, Qom's Chief Religious Judge, Mullah Karimi, 
elaborated to Ressalat newspaper on October 30, 1989: 
"Generally speaking, legal and religious decrees on 
someone condemned to stoning call for her stoning if her 
guilt was proven on the basis of witnesses' testimonies. 
Even if she were to escape in the middle of the 
administration of the sentence, she must be returned and 
stoned to death."  

On July 13, 1997, Kayhan reported that Changiz Rahimi was 
sentenced to death, stoning and payment of fine for 
committing murder and adultery.  

On October 26, 1997, six individuals were stoned in Sari, the 
provincial capital of Mazandaran. This was reported by 
Salaam daily and international news agencies. The names 
of the victims were given as Fatemeh Danesh, Masoumeh 
Eini, Marzieh Fallah, Ali Mokhtarpour, Parviz Hasanzadeh 
and Kheirollah Javanmard.  

AFP, December 7, 1994:  

Hamshahri reported that a woman and a man were recently 
stoned to death in Ramhormouz on murder and adultery 
charges.  

AFP, November 16, 1994  

Abrar reported on Wednesday that three Iranians including a 
woman were stoned in the city of Sari (northern Iran), after 
being found guilty of adultery and rape by the Islamic court.  

AFP, 11 November 1995, quoting Jomhouri Islami reported 
that a man was stoned in the city of Hamedan.  

AFP, June 8, 1996  

Hamshahri reported on Saturday that a man and a women 
were stoned in the city of Oroumieh on murder and adultery 
charges. Shahin Soltan-Moradi had murdered her husband 
with the help of her lover, Mohammad Ali Hemmati in 
November 1994.  

On July 14, 1995, Amnesty International reported that two 
women by the names of Saba Abdali, 30, and Zeinab 
Heidary, 38, were faced with stoning in the city of Ilam 
Gharb.  

On December 7, 1994, Reuters quoted a state-controlled 
newspaper report by Hamshahri, on a married woman who 
was stoned to death in the city of Ramhormouz, 
southwestern Iran.  

Ressalat, March 1, 1994, read: "A woman was stoned to 
death in the city of Qom."  

Kayhan of February 1, 1994, reported that a woman named 
Mina Kolvat was stoned to death in Tehran for having 
immoral relations with her cousin.  

The U.N. Special Representative on the human rights 
situation in Iran reported to the U.N. General Assembly in 
1993: "On November 1, 1992, a woman named Fatima Bani 
was stoned to death in Isfahan."  

Abrar reported on November 5, 1991 that a woman charged 
with immoral relations was stoned in the city of Qom.  

According to Kayhan, August 21, 1991, a woman charged 
with adultery by the name of Kobra was sentenced to 70 
lashes and stoning. The verdict was carried out in the 
presence of local people and district officials.  

Jomhouri Islami wrote on March 11, 1991, that in Rasht 
(northern Iran), "Bamani Fekri, child of Mohammad-Issa, 
guilty of complicity in first-degree murder, adultery and 
incineration of the victim's body; was sentenced to stoning, 
retribution, blinding of both eyes and payment of 100 gold 
dinars. After the announcement of the verdict, she 
committed suicide in prison."  

Ressalat reported on January 16, 1990, that a woman was 
stoned to death in the city of Bandar Anzali (northern Iran).  

Ettela'at reported on January 5, 1990: "Two women were 
stoned publicly on Wednesday in the northern city of 
Lahijan."  

Jomhouri Islami, January 2, 1990: "Two women were 
stoned in the city of Langrood (northern Iran)."  

Kayhan wrote on July 31, 1989: "Six women were stoned to 
death publicly in Kermanshah on charges of adultery and 
moral corruption."  

Kayhan, April 17, 1989, quoted the Religious judge and 
head of the Fars and Bushehr Justice Department as 
sentencing 10 women to stoning to death on prostitution 
charges which were immediately carried out.  

Tehran radio, reported on March 6, 1989 that a women was 
stoned in Karaj for committing adultery."  

Kayhan, October 4, 1986, reported that a 25-year-old woman 
named Nosrat was stoned to death in the city of Qom. She 
died after an hour of continuos stoning.  

On April 17, 1986 a woman was stoned to death in the city of 
Qom. Prior to being stoned, she was whipped in public.  

In July 1980, four women were simultaneously stoned to 
death in the city of Kerman.  

It must be noted that the cases of stoning in small towns 
and cities were not included here.  

The brutality is not limited to stoning. For example, in late 
May 1990, in the city of Neyshabour (northeastern Iran), a 
woman charged with adultery was thrown off a 10-story 
building. The execution was carried out in public, and the 
victim died on impact.  

The regime's duplicity when it comes to publicizing the 
news of such Byzantine atrocities, is very telling. Inside Iran, 
they are trumpeted with great fanfare, but when it comes to 
the international arena, officials brazenly deny their 
methods. In an interview with Le Figaro on September 10, 
1994, Rafsanjani was asked, "Are women accused of 
adultery stoned in Iran?" He replied: "No, no such thing 
exists in Iran. This has been fabricated to damage us."  

In his April 1998 trip to France and Sweden, Ata ollah 
Mohajerani, the Minister of Culture and Islamic Guidance 
and Khatami's government spokesman, who is regarded to 
be a moderate figure, discussed several matters. His 
positions openly contradicted what he says in Iran and the 
actions of the government. When asked about his views 
about stoning, Mohajerani refrained from making an 
unequivocal statement of support for this inhuman practice. 
Upon returning to Iran, however, he said explicitly that he 
does not oppose stoning but believes that efforts should be 
made to stop the dissemination of the news of stoning and 
filming the scenes.  
It is therefore clear that the question is not whether stoning 
should be carried out or not, but it about where and how 
stoning should be implemented. 

In her first interview with a foreign publication, Massoumeh 
Ebtekar, who was appointed as vice-president by Khatami, 
tried to avoid stating her views on stoning. Only later in the 
interview did she admit to its occurrence in general terms, 
but qualified her remark by saying it occurs only in remote 
places.  

Indeed, stoning is indispensable to the clerics efforts to 
intimidate and terrorize the Iranian public. During Friday 
prayers, in May of 1998,  in the provincial capital of 
Kermanshah (the largest city in western Iran), Mullah 
Zarandi had the following to say about the need to carry out 
stoning:  The security forces have to show more presence 
in the society. In order to set an example for others, the 
judiciary should also bring some of those eligible to one of 
the city squares and amputate their hands. They should 
also have a series of stoning. I promise that the society will 
be rectified.  
------------------------------------------------------------------------

SITUATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS IN THE ISLAMIC 
REPUBLIC OF IRAN
 
PREPARED BY MR. MAURICE DANBY COPITHORNE
SPECIAL REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMISSION ON 
HUMAN RIGHTS ON THE SITUATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS 
IN IRAN

  
OCTOBER 1997

  
B. Torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment 
or punishment 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------ 

Paragraph 21 - In his last interim report to the General 
Assembly (A/52/742, paras. 31-34), the Special 
Representative focused on the use of stoning in the Islamic 
Republic. Since then, it has been brought to his attention 
that, based on press account, the figures used by the 
Special Representative in that earlier report understates the 
real number of deaths and secondly, that many of the 
stonings have in fact taken place in larger cities including 
Tehran, Hamedan, Isfahan and Kermanshah. It is also 
asserted that all such punishments have to be endorsed by 
the Supreme Court and that accordingly, the incidents 
concerned are not random acts of excess. The Special 
Representative declares his condemnation of such 
punishment. 

31- The Special Representative is deeply concerned at the 
continuing reports of the use of cruel, inhuman or degrading 
treatment or punishment in the Islamic Republic of Iran, 
conduct banned by the Universal Declaration of Human 
Rights (article 5), the International Covenant on Civil and 
Political Rights ( article 7), and the Convention against 
torture ands other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment 
or Punishment ( article 16). This is an area that requires 
urgent reform in terms of both law and practice in order to 
meet international human rights norms. In the present 
report, the Special Representative will address perhaps the 
most abhorrent of such practices, that of stoning. 

32- The Special Representative notes that article 82 (b) of 
the Islamic Criminal Code provides that adultery by a 
married woman shall be punished by stoning to death. 
Information reaching the Special Representative suggests 
that stoning has been occurring from time to time since 
1979. Four cases of such punishment in the past 18 
months have come to the attention of the Special 
Representative: 

- An Iranian Magazine reported in its July 1996 edition that 
Shasin Soltan-Moradi, and Mohammad-Ali Hemmati were 
stoned to death in June 1996 in Orumiyeh; 

- An Iranian daily reported on 13 July 1997 that Changiz 
Rahimi, son of Jaafar, was sentenced to stoning for several 
offenses, including adultery; 

- An external media source reported on 20 April 1997 that a 
young woman in Sanandaj, Shahgol Zamani, had been 
stoned to death that week, 

- An external wire service story from Tehran of 12 August 
1997 recounted a story appearing in a Tehran newspaper 
about a 20-year-old woman in Boukan who had been 
sentenced to stoning for adultery. The sentence had been 
carried out, but the woman had apparently survived the 
ordeal. 
  
33- It may be replied that stoning happens very rarely in the 
Islamic Republic of Iran and not certainly in the major cities. 
The Special Representative believes that for it to happen at 
all is unsustainable both legally and morally. The fact that it 
is provided for in the Islamic Criminal Code does not make 
it a "lawful sanction" but, in the view of the Special 
Representative, serves only to encourage recourse to such 
punishment. The Special Representative would note the 
most recent condemnation of cruel, inhuman and degrading 
punishment of the Commission on Human Rights, which is 
resolution 1997/ 38, adopted on 11 April 1997. 

34- In the view of the Special Representative, there is no 
doubt that stoning is a cruel., inhuman or degrading 
punishment, as discussed in the international instruments 
mentioned above. The Special Representative urges the 
Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran to remove article 
82 (b) from the Islamic Criminal Code and to undertake a 
policy of actively suppressing recourse to such conduct 
throughout the country. 
------------------------------------------------------------------------


Further 
Reading:http://www.iran-e-azad.org/stoning/amnesty.html   

From: ton
To: antamerican
Date: Thu Oct 25 21:09:31 2001

Message:
dont worry if we die the world will die  trust me  so  you 
should take that back   see you will be dead as well   as your 
mother,  wife,  daughter , son  and your family as well as your 
friends   which i feel you have none anyway   so if you want to 
go to allah     i want to stay here and be free to do what i want 
 like pay $10 if i want my pipes cleaned by by a nice young afgan 
virgin

From:
To: ANTAMERICAN
Date: Thu Oct 25 21:10:32 2001

Message:
Learn to spell you stupid dog.{:@( fuck.

From: Joe(Fla)
To: Ton
Subject: You go Boy
Date: Thu Oct 25 21:17:37 2001

Message:
YOU GO BOY!!!!  Tell them rag head anti american goat fuckers,  
seems there are more that hate them assholes then ones that 
sympathize with them  HEHEHEHE

From: ton great u s a
To: john simon and antamerican scum bags
Subject: afgan people must die
Date: Thu Oct 25 21:15:29 2001

Message:
i heard that a prego   iraq woman  was stoned to death in iraq 
for having an affair   and the guy was let free.  thats islam  
justice  i guess is that the way you want to live  ok  than live 
there and see how lang you last  

From: Joe(Fla)
To: John
Subject: Go Away
Date: Thu Oct 25 21:19:48 2001

Message:
John,  Someone should take you out so you could visy Allah, bet 
he would puke you out in discust

From: theE.S.D.
To:
Subject: Extra
Date: Thu Oct 25 21:21:31 2001

Message:
Some moving targets surface;specifically one 
ANTAMERICAN. INTERPOL hit squad dispatched.

From: Missin'
To: All
Subject: War on Ignorance?
Date: Thu Oct 25 19:52:20 2001

Message:

From: Missin'
To: All
Subject: War on Ignorance?
Date: Thu Oct 25 19:52:20 2001

Message:
John, Simon,
Most intelligent people share your views.  I think you're 
wasting your breathe with the redneck faction here.

By the way...if you can't understand how Fundamentalist Muslims 
differ from ordinary educated Muslims, then perhaps you can 
relate it to someone with Christian beliefs.  Do you agree with 
Jerry Falwell that we deserved this?  I'm a Christian, but I 
certainly don't agree with his Fundamentalist belief.

And, if you confuse Libertarians with Liberals...you truly ARE 
ignorant.

From: John
To: Eagle
Date: Thu Oct 25 20:22:13 2001

Message:
Eagle, The number of Muslim hating Americans probably is 
substantially greater than most of us want to accept, including 
me.  But, - most Muslims have no ability or the resolve to carry 
out acts against us.  It is the Radical Fundementalists - al 
Quaeda and other mentioned terror groups who recruit from the 
ranks of the populace within the nations of Islam.

The answer is to snap the neck of the groups by destroying their 
leadership and decimating their forces by literally killing 
every single one of them.  That is the strategy being utilized 
by "The A Team" of this adminstration.

I'll tell you one thing I know to be - that is not mentioned.  
The border between Pakistan and Afghanistan is mostly closed.  
But one way only.  If you are a Pakistani seeking to go to 
Afghanistan to join the Taliban and their Jihad, you're quite 
welcome.  This of course allows for the egress of supporters 
from Pakistan to Afghanistan where our troops can then simply 
kill with the Taliban.  Possibly, this is one of the causes for 
the delay of full scale attack.  I wonder which Genius in our 
administration thought of it?

There are some like you who prefer to go full throttle with the 
enemy.  I do not as you are aware.  Not only would it make cause 
for the killing of million of innocents, but maybe more 
important (for those who don't value the lives of these 
innocents), is the fact that we would effectively be at war with 
1.2 BILLION people.  I don't want to be at war with 1.2 billion 
people.  I don't know we could win such a war and still have a 
planet to live.  I prefer the strategy being utilized.

With regard to Muslims hating Jews.  They always have hated Jews 
and I suspect maybe they always will.  I hope I'm wrong, but 
there may be a day we may need to airlift all Israeli's from 
their (their) home to here in the United States.  Maybe what we 
should have done at wars end in '46.  But, antisemitism in this 
nation then was greater than today.  Personally, I do not think 
I will ever understand the hate.  

This article may help some understand the predicament we face 
with Muslims.
  
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/jonahgoldberg/jg20011024.shtml

You asked me this:  Because you dont hate your enemy as much as 
they hate you - does that make you a bigger/better person?

Response:  My not hating them as much as they hate me doesn't 
make me necessarily better or bigger then them.  But certainly 
better educated.  Is that not the root of the problem and the 
long term solution?  Education.

All the best,

John
E pluribus unum

PS - I must admit, from what I've seen of Joe's communication 
skills, you could not be him or rather he you.  I must apologize 
profusely.

OH and to address the child Afghan question, or any child for 
that matter.   A child must be taught hate.  Love comes natural.

Cya


From: Joe(Fla)
To: John
Subject: Time to kiss eagles ass
Date: Thu Oct 25 21:45:43 2001

Message:
Good Boy,  love the way you try to suck up  lol   keep up the 
good work

From: John
To: Missin
Date: Thu Oct 25 21:44:55 2001

Message:
Do you pose such .. to solicit response?

"And, if you confuse Libertarians with Liberals..."

No. No confusion.  A libertarian to me is one who seeks freedoms 
from government rule and oversight, including literal 
interpretation of the Constitution, that today is interpreted in 
a manner far from the intent of its creators.

John
E...

From: ton
To: missen
Subject: think!!!!
Date: Thu Oct 25 21:43:43 2001

Message:
you must me a very smart person    us dumb people we don't know 
shit    i guess we are facing this the way it really is and not 
trying to cover it up with pompus bull shit that your throwing   
you see this make love not war won't work this time  i am from 
the 60's  that was a different ball game  see   in case you 
forgot they killed 6000 people in n y c   remember  we have to 
kill at least 6000 of them  and let them see we mean business if 
not they will not stop   don't you see that     think whats 
happened in  nyc   and the anthrax, they won't stop they hate all 
americans, canadians, uk's, n z, aussies.  they won't stop  till 
we melt them all down.   so remember what i am saying  they are 
not finished we have to stop them     why are the   "smart ones" 
letting the   "bad ones" do this and the "smart ones"  are 
smelling like a rose     don't you see this...  wake up      to 
the real world  because it might be over sooner than you think   
enjoy life  and join the hate the scum bag crowd     be smart

From: John
To: Little sick boy Joey from Tampa
Date: Thu Oct 25 21:56:51 2001

Message:
Little sick boy Joey

You're interpretation of a suck-up is in actuality an outright 
diss.. of you.  I simply elevated him (deservedly so) to an 
elevation of able-human - so far greater than you could ever 
dream to acheive - That being one who can communicate.

I inadvertantly confused him with you.  One of his early 
writings I thought was similiar to your evil-non-style.  I was 
wrong about him.  

You. No.

The new terrorist act gets signed by Bush tomorrow.  I bet you 
have no idea what that means for you, do you?

From: Bobby Zimmerman
To: The ESD
Subject: Stoning
Date: Thu Oct 25 22:43:15 2001

Message:
Hey, good details. I used to think I was all alone on my views 
about stoning; now, I think that I would not feel so all alone, 
if everybody must get stoned!

From: theE.S.D.
To: Bobby Zimmerman
Subject: "time for my bootheels to be wandering"
Date: Thu Oct 25 23:37:30 2001

Message:

From: theE.S.D.
To: Bobby Zimmerman
Subject: "--and she bleeds, just like a woman---"
Date: Thu Oct 25 23:40:21 2001

Message:

From: theE.S.D.
To: Bobby Zimmerman
Subject: "---if dogs run free------why not me-----?"
Date: Thu Oct 25 23:48:31 2001

Message:

From: theE.S.D.
To: Bobby Zimmerman
Date: Fri Oct 26 00:09:53 2001

Message:
We normally don't except outside editorials---you are a 
exception.

From: EagleEye
To: theESD
Subject: nice content Hoss!!
Date: Thu Oct 25 23:52:51 2001

Message:
More "peaceful" muslim factoids - as if we really needed any 
more ammo / excuses to wanna off this fornication of a religion.

[Sarcasm off]

But suredly ... the Islamic Militant fucks, with their craniums 
inserted up their colon so far they need scuba gear, will 
dismiss this as Jewish predjudiced lies and American Media 
deception.

Ohhh that Al-Jizz_n_reara is a bastion of balance and truth.

From: theE.S.D.
To: EagleEye
Date: Fri Oct 26 00:19:34 2001

Message:
We appreciate your intrest in our "publication".

From: EagleEye
To: John
Subject: Paki Borders - touche'
Date: Fri Oct 26 00:17:17 2001

Message:
Best fucking news Ive got from you - ever.  You are correct - 
stroke of genious - letting the border open 1 way - out of 
Pakistan and into the Glass Blowers paradise that Afghanitsan 
shall soon become.

In fact - we already got one cig smoker who got fucking lost, 
and then off'd 20+ via smart bomb on a convoy of fresh Ji-hide, 
pussy ass, human shield using Towel-e-Ban supporters coming over 
from Pakistan.

Afghani weather forecast:  5,000 F and Cloudy - but Id settle 
for 50 AC-130's flying round the clock sorties, putting a round 
in every sq. ft of kitty litter.

24 Hour Islamic Bingo - F-18 / F-14 / B-52 / B-1 / B-2

B.I.N.G.O.
o S I O F
M L T O T
B A W D E
  M I N N
  I T
  C S

From: aussie
To: taliban
Subject: bye bye
Date: Fri Oct 26 04:46:16 2001

Message:
A few days ago Australia began sending it troops, war planes and 
warship towards afaganistan, 1550 personal in all(a fair bit for 
a country of under 20million).  These include the world best 
trained troops the Aussie SAS. When the taliban heard this they 
laught it off when the feel them they will be crying, the motto 
of the sas "who dares wins"

From:
To:
Date: Fri Oct 26 04:45:59 2001

Message:
ONLY LIGHT CAN STAMP OUT DARKNESS

From: Aussies
To: Kiwis
Subject: military
Date: Fri Oct 26 04:56:54 2001

Message:
Australia currently has an military alliance with N.Z, it is a 
joke the nz air force consist of 4 planes, 2 which crashed and 2 
that are on loan from Australia.  There navy consist of 3 
Australin built anzac class frigates and the army under 5000 
troops. Australia should leave this alliance unless new zealand 
put if fair shair towards the alliance. for instance every 
10billion Australia spends on it military nz should spend 1 
billion

right now the aussie defence budget is at 20.5 billion 
Australian 

new zealand 500million  Australian 

From: aussie
To: indonesia
Date: Fri Oct 26 05:09:29 2001

Message:
Australia has been constenly critisied for not taking in afgan 
refugee's that arrive illigally on our shores from indonesia, 
well it turns out indonesion police force 350 refugges onto a 
boat at gun point, the boat later sank killing 240 people.  Our 
country takes in more refugess per head of population than any 
other contry apart from canada.  Japan which is president of the 
refugee convention takes 5 refugees a year. 
INDONESIA CAN GO FUCK IT SELF WE ARE NOT TAKING ITS PROBLEM.

They should learn our navy has intercepted 99.8 percent of boats 
and now we just pay poor pacific islands like naru, kirobass 
and :) new zealand and now fiji to process them.  


PS expecting 7.1million afgan refugess and fast running out of 
pacific islands any idea

From:
To:
Subject: An old war treaty
Date: Fri Oct 26 05:29:31 2001

Message:
Treaty of Peace and Friendship, with additional article; also 
Ship-Signals Agreement. The treaty was sealed at Morocco with 
the seal of the Emperor of Morocco June 23, 1786 (25 Shaban, A. 
H. 1200), and delivered to Thomas Barclay, American Agent, June 
28, 1786 (1 Ramadan, A. H. 1200). Original in Arabic. The 
additional article was signed and sealed at Morocco on behalf of 
Morocco July 15, 1786 (18 Ramadan, A. H. 1200). Original in 
Arabic. The Ship-Signals Agreement was signed at Morocco July 6, 
1786 (9 Ramadan, A. H. 1200). Original in English. 

Certified English translations of the treaty and of the 
additional article were incorporated in a document signed and 
sealed by the Ministers Plenipotentiary of the United States, 
Thomas Jefferson at Paris January 1, 1787, and John Adams at 
London January 25, 1787. 

Treaty and additional article ratified by the United States July 
18, 1787. As to the ratification generally, see the notes. 
Treaty and additional article proclaimed July 18, 1787. 

Ship-Signals Agreement not specifically included in the 
ratification and not proclaimed; but copies ordered by Congress 
July 23, 1787, to be sent to the Executives of the States 
(Secret Journals of Congress, IV, 869; but see the notes as to 
this reference). 

[Certified Translation of the Treaty and of the Additional 
Article, with Approval by Jefferson and Adams) 

To all Persons to whom these Presents shall come or be made 
known- Whereas the United States of America in Congress 
assembled by their Commission bearing date the twelvth day of 
May One thousand Seven hundred and Eighty four thought proper to 
constitute John Adams, Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson 
their Ministers Plenipotentiary, giving to them or a Majority of 
them full Powers to confer, treat & negotiate with the 
Ambassador, Minister or Commissioner of His Majesty the Emperor 
of Morocco concerning a Treaty of Amity and Commerce, to make & 
receive propositions for such Treaty and to conclude and sign 
the same, transmitting it to the United States in Congress 
assembled for their final Ratification, And by one other 
(commission bearing date the Eleventh day of March One thousand 
Seven hundred & Eighty five did further empower the said 
Ministers Plenipotentiary or a majority of them, by writing 
under the* hands and Seals to appoint such Agent in the said 
Business as they might think proper with Authority under the 
directions and Instructions of the said Ministers to commence & 
prosecute the said Negotiations & Conferences for the said 
Treaty provided that the said Treaty should be signed by the 
said Ministers: And Whereas, We the said John Adams & Thomas 
Jefferson two of the said Ministers Plenipotentiary (the said 
Benjamin Franklin being absent) by writing under the Hand and 
Seal of the said John Adams at London October the fifth, One 
thousand Seven hundred and Eighty five, & of the said Thomas 
Jefferson at Paris October the Eleventh of the same Year, did 
appoint Thomas Barclay, Agent in the Business aforesaid, giving 
him the Powers therein, which by the said second Commission we 
were authorized to give, and the said Thomas Barclay in 
pursuance thereof, hath arranged Articles for a Treaty of Amity 
and Commerce between the United States of America and His 
Majesty the Emperor of Morocco, which Articles written in the 
Arabic Language, confirmed by His said Majesty the Emperor of 
Morocco & seal'd with His Royal Seal, being translated into the 
Language of the said United States of America, together with the 
Attestations thereto annexed are in the following Words, To Wit. 

In the name of Almighty God, 

This is a Treaty of Peace and Friendship established between us 
and the United States of America, which is confirmed, and which 
we have ordered to be written in this Book and sealed with our 
Royal Seal at our Court of Morocco on the twenty fifth day of 
the blessed Month of Shaban, in the Year One thousand two 
hundred, trusting in God it will remain permanent. 

.1.
We declare that both Parties have agreed that this Treaty 
consisting of twenty five Articles shall be inserted in this 
Book and delivered to the Honorable Thomas Barclay, the Agent of 
the United States now at our Court, with whose Approbation it 
has been made and who is duly authorized on their Part, to treat 
with us concerning all the Matters contained therein. 

.2.
If either of the Parties shall be at War with any Nation 
whatever, the other Party shall not take a Commission from the 
Enemy nor fight under their Colors. 

.3.
If either of the Parties shall be at War with any Nation 
whatever and take a Prize belonging to that Nation, and there 
shall be found on board Subjects or Effects belonging to either 
of the Parties, the Subjects shall be set at Liberty and the 
Effects returned to the Owners. And if any Goods belonging to 
any Nation, with whom either of the Parties shall be at War, 
shall be loaded on Vessels belonging to the other Party, they 
shall pass free and unmolested without any attempt being made to 
take or detain them. 

.4.
A Signal or Pass shall be given to all Vessels belonging to both 
Parties, by which they are to be known when they meet at Sea, 
and if the Commander of a Ship of War of either Party shall have 
other Ships under his Convoy, the Declaration of the Commander 
shall alone be sufficient to exempt any of them from 
examination. 

.5.
If either of the Parties shall be at War, and shall meet a 
Vessel at Sea, belonging to the other, it is agreed that if an 
examination is to be made, it shall be done by sending a Boat 
with two or three Men only, and if any Gun shall be Bred and 
injury done without Reason, the offending Party shall make good 
all damages. 

.6.
If any Moor shall bring Citizens of the United States or their 
Effects to His Majesty, the Citizens shall immediately be set at 
Liberty and the Effects restored, and in like Manner, if any 
Moor not a Subject of these Dominions shall make Prize of any of 
the Citizens of America or their Effects and bring them into any 
of the Ports of His Majesty, they shall be immediately released, 
as they will then be considered as under His Majesty's 
Protection. 

.7.
If any Vessel of either Party shall put into a Port of the other 
and have occasion for Provisions or other Supplies, they shall 
be furnished without any interruption or molestation. 

If any Vessel of the United States shall meet with a Disaster at 
Sea and put into one of our Ports to repair, she shall be at 
Liberty to land and reload her cargo, without paying any Duty 
whatever. 

.9.
If any Vessel of the United States shall be cast on Shore on any 
Part of our Coasts, she shall remain at the disposition of the 
Owners and no one shall attempt going near her without their 
Approbation, as she is then considered particularly under our 
Protection; and if any Vessel of the United States shall be 
forced to put into our Ports, by Stress of weather or otherwise, 
she shall not be compelled to land her Cargo, but shall remain 
in tranquillity untill the Commander shall think proper to 
proceed on his Voyage. 

.10.
If any Vessel of either of the Parties shall have an engagement 
with a Vessel belonging to any of the Christian Powers within 
gunshot of the Forts of the other, the Vessel so engaged shall 
be defended and protected as much as possible untill she is in 
safety; And if any American Vessel shall be cast on shore on the 
Coast of Wadnoon (1) or any coast thereabout, the People 
belonging to her shall be protected, and assisted untill by the 
help of God, they shall be sent to their Country. 

.11.
If we shall be at War with any Christian Power and any of our 
Vessels sail from the Ports of the United States, no Vessel 
belonging to the enemy shall follow untill twenty four hours 
after the Departure of our Vessels; and the same Regulation 
shall be observed towards the American Vessels sailing from our 
Ports.-be their enemies Moors or Christians. 

.12.
If any Ship of War belonging to the United States shall put into 
any of our Ports, she shall not be examined on any Pretence 
whatever, even though she should have fugitive Slaves on Board, 
nor shall the Governor or Commander of the Place compel them to 
be brought on Shore on any pretext, nor require any payment for 
them. 

.13.
If a Ship of War of either Party shall put into a Port of the 
other and salute, it shall be returned from the Fort, with an 
equal Number of Guns, not with more or less. 

.14.
The Commerce with the United States shall be on the same footing 
as is the Commerce with Spain or as that with the most favored 
Nation for the time being and their Citizens shall be respected 
and esteemed and have full Liberty to pass and repass our 
Country and Sea Ports whenever they please without interruption. 

.15.
Merchants of both Countries shall employ only such interpreters, 
& such other Persons to assist them in their Business, as they 
shall think proper. No Commander of a Vessel shall transport his 
Cargo on board another Vessel, he shall not be detained in Port, 
longer than he may think proper, and all persons employed in 
loading or unloading Goods or in any other Labor whatever, shall 
be paid at the Customary rates, not more and not less. 

.16.
In case of a War between the Parties, the Prisoners are not to 
be made Slaves, but to be exchanged one for another, Captain for 
Captain, Officer for Officer and one private Man for another; 
and if there shall prove a deficiency on either side, it shall 
be made up by the payment of one hundred Mexican Dollars for 
each Person wanting; And it is agreed that all Prisoners shall 
be exchanged in twelve Months from the Time of their being 
taken, and that this exchange may be effected by a Merchant or 
any other Person authorized by either of the Parties. 

.17.
Merchants shall not be compelled to buy or Sell any kind of 
Goods but such as they shall think proper; and may buy and sell 
all sorts of Merchandise but such as are prohibited to the other 
Christian Nations. 

.18.
All goods shall be weighed and examined before they are sent on 
board, and to avoid all detention of Vessels, no examination 
shall afterwards be made, unless it shall first be proved, that 
contraband Goods have been sent on board, in which Case the 
Persons who took the contraband Goods on board shall be punished 
according to the Usage and Custom of the Country and no other 
Person whatever shall be injured, nor shall the Ship or Cargo 
incur any Penalty or damage whatever. 

.19.
No vessel shall be detained in Port on any presence whatever, 
nor be obliged to take on board any Article without the consent 
of the Commander, who shall be at full Liberty to agree for the 
Freight of any Goods he takes on board. 

.20.
If any of the Citizens of the United States, or any Persons 
under their Protection, shall have any disputes with each other, 
the Consul shall decide between the Parties and whenever the 
Consul shall require any Aid or Assistance from our Government 
to enforce his decisions it shall be immediately granted to him. 

.21.
If a Citizen of the United States should kill or wound a Moor, 
or on the contrary if a Moor shall kill or wound a Citizen of 
the United States, the Law of the Country shall take place and 
equal Justice shall be rendered, the Consul assisting at the 
Tryal, and if any Delinquent shall make his escape, the Consul 
shall not be answerable for him in any manner whatever. 

.22.
If an American Citizen shall die in our Country and no Will 
shall appear, the Consul shall take possession of his Effects, 
and if there shall be no Consul, the Effects shall be deposited 
in the hands of some Person worthy of Trust, untill the Party 
shall appear who has a Right to demand them, but if the Heir to 
the Person deceased be present, the Property shall be delivered 
to him without interruption; and if a Will shall appear, the 
Property shall descend agreeable to that Will, as soon as the 
Consul shall declare the Validity thereof. 

.23.
The Consuls of the United States of America shall reside in any 
Sea Port of our Dominions that they shall think proper; And they 
shall be respected and enjoy all the Privileges which the 
Consuls of any other Nation enjoy, and if any of the Citizens of 
the United States shall contract any Debts or engagements, the 
Consul shall not be in any Manner accountable for them, unless 
he shall have given a Promise in writing for the payment or 
fulfilling thereof, without which promise in Writing no 
Application to him for any redress shall be made. 

.24.
If any differences shall arise by either Party infringing on any 
of the Articles of this Treaty, Peace and Harmony shall remain 
notwithstanding in the fullest force, untill a friendly 
Application shall be made for an Arrangement, and untill that 
Application shall be rejected, no appeal shall be made to Arms. 
And if a War shall break out between the Parties, Nine Months 
shall be granted to all the Subjects of both Parties, to dispose 
of their Effects and retire with their Property. And it is 
further declared that whatever indulgences in Trade or otherwise 
shall be granted to any of the Christian Powers, the Citizens of 
the United States shall be equally entitled to them. 

.25.
This Treaty shall continue in full Force, with the help of God 
for Fifty Years. 

We have delivered this Book into the Hands of the before-
mentioned Thomas Barclay on the first day of the blessed Month 
of Ramadan, in the Year One thousand two hundred. 

I certify that the annex'd is a true Copy of the Translation 
made by Issac Cardoza Nunez, Interpreter at Morocco, of the 
treaty between the Emperor of Morocco and the United States of 
America. 

THOS BARCLAY 

(1) Or Ouadnoun, on the Atlantic coast, about latitude 29  N. 
Back 

Source:
Treaties and Other International Acts of the United States of 
America.
Edited by Hunter Miller
Volume 2 
Documents 1-40 : 1776-1818
Washington : Government Printing Office, 1931.

USMARC Cataloging Record  



From:
To:
Date: Fri Oct 26 06:22:45 2001

Message:
ZAHIR SHAH    LONG LIVE 
    THE KING! 
 
  

From: Simon
To: Ton
Date: Fri Oct 26 06:11:14 2001

Message:
America is not the only country in the 
world with a nuclear capability. Iraq possesses nuclear 
capability. The other scenario, which is infinitely more 
terrifying is that of the suitcase bomb. 
                        The suitcase bomb is a nuclear bomb 
whose componenet parts can be stored in a suitcase. Two mombs on 
other side of a city would be enough to wipe out it & its 
cicilians. No DEW system, no chance to shoot down an incoming, & 
no knowledge as to the perpetrator. And out of quite a few 
moslems in America, I'm sure that a small number would be 
willing & able to commit such an act. Do you really think it is 
worth using a bomb, when the possibility of such retaliation 
exists?
                         If you feel it is a numbers game, does 
that entitle the citizens of Vietnam to kill one million 
Americans? According to your logic, they would be fully 
justified in doing so.
                         Finally, the stoning of women in Iran 
is barbarous & a heinous affront to humanity. But, if you read 
tha article fully, you see that it is the leaders who order 
this. They do it in the name of Islam. But, the Qu'ran does not 
mention stoning as a punishment. Mohamed, its main prophet, 
worked to reduce stoning, & tried to outlaw it altogether. This 
is another example of a religion being hijacked & misinterpreted.
                         Islam is a progressive religion. It is 
aggresive because it seeks new converts. It does not advocate 
the death of non-believers. Non-believers should be converted, 
not destroyed. This is similar to early christian missionaries. 
The veil that the women wear, is because like the christian 
religion, Islam forbids adultery. But it tries to prevent the 
temptation being there in the first place by ordering the 
women's face to be partially covered up. How much is covered up 
is the women's choice, theoretically. It is usually decided by 
her father or husband. Whether this is a criticism of 
patriarchal societies & their inherent sexism is another matter.

From: Missin'
To: All
Date: Fri Oct 26 08:30:36 2001

Message:
Simon, Islam forbids many things that the Taliban and Al Quaeda 
have done as well.  The biggest problem is that in the Middle 
Eastern countries, you have 2 classes of people.  The very 
wealthy, and the poor.  There is NO opportunity for the poor to 
gain either education (even of the Koran) or to raise their 
standard of living.  What the majority know of the Koran is what 
they've been taught by whoever was willing to 
teach...unfortunately, mostly by the Fundamentalists.  And, 
teaching Christianity in some of those areas run by the 
Fundamentalist groups is punishable by death...not too 
progressive in my book.

John, My comment regarding Libertarians VS Liberals was in 
response to some of the more clueless remarks made by the 
redneck faction...they seem to think they are the same thing.  I 
am in the same transition as you now...I really like the 
Libertarian platform...especially after just reading Atlas 
Shrugged.

I have NO sympathy for terrorist groups anywhere.  Not even 
here.  Timothy McVeigh got what he deserved...actually he got 
off too light.  And, the hatred I see spewed out on this board 
is by people who hold the exact same opinions that HE did.  I 
want terrorism wiped off the face of the earth...and I'd re-up 
in a heartbeat, if I weren't too old to do so.  The difference 
is...I KNOW who the enemy is...and I have no desire to kill 
innocents...because I'm better than the enemy.

From: killumall
To:
Subject: PEACE
Date: Fri Oct 26 09:09:36 2001

Message:
"Only light can stamp out darkness"---yes, the light from a 100 
megaton can remove all darkness from the shithole of the earth, 
afghanistan, and clean the world of the breathing pieces of 
islamic dog shit that inhabit it. Even if some of them 
are "innocent", what fucking good are they? All they contribute 
to mankind is another hand out for American food--keep dropping 
it on the minefields, fellows! HAHAHA--And if osama 
binsuckingadogsdick doesn`t choke to death on doggie sperm, his 
son should be injected with pig`s blood on t.v. and sent to 
Hell,while osalamisucker watches---HAIL TO THE GREAT STUD FROM 
THE WEST, GEORGE BUSH, AND FUCK ALLAH!!

From:
To: killumall
Subject: 'peace'
Date: Fri Oct 26 11:21:48 2001

Message:
You have just demonstrated that you are in the same league as 
bin Laden & his cohorts...you are at the same level (or below?)

From: orazio
To: pace
Subject: pace
Date: Fri Oct 26 12:18:26 2001

Message:
fate l'amore,no la guerra...

From: John
To: Missin'
Subject: Libertarians
Date: Fri Oct 26 11:25:20 2001

Message:
RE:  John, My comment regarding Libertarians VS Liberals was in 
response to some of the more clueless remarks made by the 
redneck faction...they seem to think they are the same thing.  I 
am in the same transition as you now...I really like the 
Libertarian platform...especially after just reading Atlas 
Shrugged.

*****

I realized that only after I reread your posting, post my 
response.  :-)

*****

Like you, I suspect the majority of posters here have education 
deficiencies.  In actuality that's not the sole problem.  All 
the knowledge needed to come to an informed position is 
available right on their TV sets.  Fox News & CNN broadcast 24 
hours a day.  CNN's coverage has greater international & 
historical coverage, though (still) somewhat slanted with a 
liberal bias.  So folks you don't have to read a book or even 
the paper to get up to speed.  Just tune-in to knowledge instead 
of the Cartoon Channel or Survivor.

John
E pluribus Unum

PS - Good stuff Ayn Rand.  Look for "The Ayn Rand Lexicon"  It 
brings together all key ideas of her philosophy of Objectivism.

From: www.sasha@online.ru
To: you
Subject: anthack
Date: Fri Oct 26 12:55:01 2001

Message:
Kill taleban

From: Justice USA
To: Dogs of War
Subject: Assama Ladin Dying Cancer Has the NUKES
Date:

Message:
I was listening late last night to a radio station here in NYC 
called WEST OF THE ROCKIES and there was some SERIOUS talk about 
Assami Bin Laden being terminally ill with cancer and his 
kidneys failing.  It was also stated that he now OWNS and Has 
Access to NUCLEAR WEAPONS!  This post is not a joke.  PLEASE 
Eagle Eye, Florida Joe, Radio Europe, etc. see if this is all 
accurate.  There is supposed to be a lo

From: Justice USA
To: Dogs of War
Subject: Assama Ladin Dying Cancer Has the NUKES
Date: Fri Oct 26 13:10:50 2001

Message:
I was listening late last night to a radio station here in NYC 
called WEST OF THE ROCKIES and there was some SERIOUS talk about 
Assami Bin Laden being terminally ill with cancer and his 
kidneys failing.  It was also stated that he now OWNS and Has 
Access to NUCLEAR WEAPONS!  This post is not a joke.  PLEASE 
Eagle Eye, Florida Joe, Radio Europe, etc. see if this is all 
accurate.  There is supposed to be a lot of this being broadcast 
from the british channels as well.  I could not sleep the whole 
fucken night thinking about this shit.  We need to just DROP THE 
FUCKEN BOMB THIS MINUTE GODDAMMIT!!!!!  P.S.  Johnny, we hardley 
new ye, didnt Betty Boop and others distinctly say to can it 
with the PLERUBIS bit.  Good Lord Man!  You are our little 
problem child on the board.  Peace was good in the sixties, but 
this is a different world now.  Over and Out.  People let's 
reserach this shit on the internet now and see what we can come 
up with. Once again, this was a SERIOUS talk show early this 
morning at the WEST OF THE ROCKIES show and there have been 
reports of Laden dying of cancer and having the nukes now.  
Probably wants to die with a smile on his face.  Son of a bitch!

From: Betty Boop
To: Bob the Slob and Killumall
Subject: ASSHOLES!!!!
Date: Fri Oct 26 13:19:50 2001

Message:
Take your tree hugging bullshit elsewhere.  You should be 
OUTRAGED at what has happened.  Lick my asshole you dumb 
peaceniks.  God, what a bunch of tree hugging, pablum eating, 
candy assed jerk offs you are.  Why dont you say something in 
deense of AMERICA?  Go to hell.  You are a load that your mother 
should have swallowed.  The best part of you ran down your 
mother's leg. Now, I am going to find out about this Bastard 
Laden dying of cancer.  God, I would hope so.  But the fact that 
this degenerate now owns nukes, means we must ACT SWIFTLY to 
kill off Afghanistan.  A CIVILIAN FOR A CIVILIAN I SAY.  A MAN 
FOR A MAN.  A WOMAN FOR OUR WOMAN AND A CHILD FOR OUR CHILD THAT 
HAS DIED.  

From: John
To: Justice USA
Date: Fri Oct 26 14:09:55 2001

Message:
RE:  P.S.  Johnny, we hardley new ye, didnt Betty Boop and 
others distinctly say to can it with the PLERUBIS bit.  Good 
Lord Man!  You are our little problem child on the board.  Peace 
was good in the sixties, but this is a different world now.

****

Do you research "anything" before you open your mouth?  Go up on 
this board and read my opinions.  Then I'll accept your apology.

Beyond all that - Put some trust in our elected team to handle 
this in the appropriate manner.  If utilizing mass destruction 
means is required they will make the decision.  Did you vote for 
George Bush?  Then allow he and his "A Team" to fight the war.

While you're up there reading my postings find what I wrote with 
regard to E pluribus unum and it's important meaning to this 
nation.

John
E plurib