I am pleased to see that some of you are trying to limit the 
amount of lines that you use in your posts.  This promotes good 
will among fellow posters and a better understanding of people 
in general. Strive for perfection in everything that you do.


The above four lines only in accordance with board rules 

Hmmm.  Interesting.  Disinformation.  Class dismissed.         

Bush is floundering and waffeling about the 9-11 situation, only 
due to the fact that the Bases in Islamic nations were built by 
Osama and his family. If we were to connect the dots in this 
whole 9-11 affair you would fing the Bush family right in the 
middle of it, right along with Ronald Regan. 

Following:> 

FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE SEPTEMBER 11, THE BUSH administration 
is on the defensive about how it handled warnings of possible 
hijackings by Osama bin Laden's network. The Bush team claims 
the warnings were too vague to have thwarted the attacks on New 
York and the Pentagon, but some intelligence experts aren't so 
sure. 

National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice says no one could 
have predicted that hijackers would turn airliners into missiles 
and crash them into the World Trade Center and Pentagon. But 
Larry Johnson, who was deputy director of the U.S. State 
Department's Office of Counter-Terrorism from 1989 to 1993, 
calls Rice's statement "ridiculous." 

The possibility that terrorists would use aircraft as missiles 
is well-documented in court records and police interviews around 
the world. "If George W. Bush didn't know enough to ask the 
right questions, his advisers should have," said Johnson, now a 
partner at BERG Associates, a Washington, D.C., consulting firm, 
who does occasional work for the Department of Defense and the 
CIA. "These warnings should have triggered hard questions about 
the state of airline security, and his advisers should have 
followed up to find the answers." 

Now, as warnings of potential targets come out almost daily, 
Johnson finds especially troubling the 1996 statements of Abdul 
Hakim Murad, a Pakistani terrorist affiliated with al Qaeda, who 
confessed to police in the Philippines that he intended to use 
his American flight training to crash an explosives-laden plane 
into CIA headquarters in Virginia. Johnson says he recently 
examined Murad's confession, and it includes talk of plots to 
blow up U.S. nuclear facilities. He says the parallels between 
airline safety, pre September 11, and security at nuclear 
facilities in 2002 is chilling. 

"So here it is. We have known since 1995 that these are targets 
of bin Laden's network. Now, what have we been doing about it?" 
he asks. Johnson says the government should have been reviewing 
safety and making improvements at nuclear plants. 

"Do we know who is working at these plants, what their 
backgrounds are? How is the guard force trained? What are their 
security standards? Are these plants physically secure? Is the 
security coordinated by the federal government or, as in the 
case of utilities, is it left up to private industry, like it 
was with the airlines? 

"These are the questions we should be asking right now," he 
adds. "So we don't have to say after an attack, 'Gee, we 
couldn't imagine this ever happening.' Because there is no 
imagination required." (Officials at the Department of Justice 
declined to respond to the questions posed by Johnson.) 

Johnson lays much of the blame for the nation's security lapses 
on the FBI. "People have seen too many Tom Clancy movies," he 
says. "That is not reality. The FBI is not equipped to analyze 
intelligence. Their job is to gather information in support of 
an ongoing prosecution or in preparation for one." 

All this information that has been out there for years should 
have been passed on to the CIA, he adds. "They have the people 
and the expertise to handle it, but they didn't get it. That 
needs to change now, if it already hasn't." 

The record supports Johnson's contention. There are the well-
known tips, such as the CIA's briefing to Bush last August that 
warned of possible hijackings by Osama bin Laden, and a memo 
last July from FBI Special Agent Kenneth Williams documenting 
his suspicions regarding numerous Middle Eastern men taking 
flight lessons at a school in Arizona. But other, lesser-known 
developments have been circulating for years. They include: 

* October 2000: Former U.S. Special Forces Sergeant Ali 
Mohammed, also known as Abu Mohammed ali Amriki, pleads guilty 
to five counts of conspiracy to murder and kidnap U.S. nationals 
and government employees in connection with the 1998 U.S. 
Embassy bombings in Africa. The former bin Laden lieutenant 
testifies that he provided security for a 1994 meeting between 
bin Laden and Imad Mugniyah in Sudan. Mugniyah, the security 
chief for the Lebanese Hezbollah, discussed upcoming operations 
with the al Qaeda leader. Mugniyah is believed to have planned a 
series of hijackings, including the 1999 pirating of an Air 
India jet, in which the hijackers used knives to take over the 
plane. Air India passengers were exchanged for five militants, 
including Ahmad Omar Saeed, who is being tried for reporter 
Daniel Pearl's kidnapping and murder. Israeli and U.S. 
intelligence sources believe that Mugniyah, whose whereabouts 
are unknown, may have conspired with Ayman Al-Zawahiri, bin 
Laden's top commander, to plan the September 11 attacks. 

* September 2000: A defecting Iraqi intelligence officer tells 
Iraqi National Congress representatives about Islamists being 
trained in hijacking techniques, including the use of one's 
hands and knives to take over airliners. The training was 
conducted aboard a Boeing 707 parked at Salman Pal, a secret 
Iraqi camp. The information has been corroborated, post 9/11, by 
Sabah Khalifa Khodada Alami, a former Iraqi captain who was a 
military instructor at Salman Pak from 1994 to 1998. Post 9/11, 
U.S. intelligence releases an aerial photo of a 707 parked at 
Salman Pak. 

* September 2000: FBI agents learn that L'Houssaine Kherchtou, a 
Moroccan, had been sent to flight school by al Qaeda. His 
mission, he tells them, was to learn how to fly crop-dusters. He 
describes a meeting between an Egyptian member of the network 
and a fellow pilot that took place in 1993 or 1994 in the Sudan. 
The Egyptian was briefing the pilot on Western air-traffic-
control procedures. 

* June 2000: Mohammed Atta, the alleged 9/11 ringleader, is in 
Prague for 
the first of two meetings with Colonel Muhammed Khalil Ibrahim 
al-Ani. Al-Ani is one of Iraq's most highly decorated 
intelligence officers and a reported senior official in the 
Department for Special Operations, which specializes in 
sabotage, terrorism and assassinations. 

* September 1999: The National Intelligence Council prepares a 
report for the CIA and the Clinton administration entitled "The 
Sociology and Psychology of Terrorism: Who Becomes a Terrorist 
and Why." In addition to detailing the motives behind 
religiously inspired terrorism, the council reported that 
suicide bombers belonging to "al Qaeda's Martyrdom Battalion 
could crash-land an aircraft packed with high explosives into 
the Pentagon, the headquarters of the CIA or the White House." 

* 1999: Ihab Mahammed Ali, an al Qaeda member arrested in 
Orlando, Florida, and later named as an unindicted co-
conspirator in the 1998 U.S. Embassy bombings in Africa, is 
called before a grand jury. He denies participation in bin 
Laden's network and is charged with perjury. The FBI learns that 
Ali had obtained flight training at the Airman Flight School in 
Norman, Oklahoma. Ali became al Qaeda's first pilot. Accused 
September 11 terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui also took flight 
lessons at the Airman school. 

* 1996: Abdul Hakim Murad, a Pakistani terrorist affiliated with 
al Qaeda and Ramzi Yousef, confesses to Filipino police that he 
intended to use his American flight training to crash a plane 
filled with explosives into the CIA's headquarters in Virginia. 
Murad was arrested in Manila in 1995 after accidentally setting 
his apartment on fire while making a bomb. He also told 
investigators about Yousef's plot to blow up 12 airliners over 
the ocean. Yousef was convicted of masterminding the 1993 World 
Trade Center bombing. Murad was convicted in New York of 
conspiring with Yousef to blow up the airliners. 

* 1994: French intelligence thwarts a plan by Algerian Islamic 
militants to hijack a plane and crash it into the Eiffel Tower 
or blow it up over Paris. 

* 1993: Yossef Bodansky, executive director of the U.S. House 
Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, and the 
author of six books, including Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared 
War on America, publishes Target America. In it, Bodansky 
details an alleged terror program devised by the Islamic 
Revolutionary Guard Corps of Iran, in which suicide pilots were 
trained to fly small jets, loaded with explosives, into targets. 
The program, started in the early 1980s, reportedly zeroed in on 
Gulf state palaces and the U.S. Sixth Fleet. A number of 
training accidents eventually stalled the program. 

I'm Gay, are you?  If you are contact me on this page.

The stench of barbarism, mediaevalism and misogyny emanating 
from the islamic rule in pakistan and afganistan is condemmable
treatment of women and children in islam is atrocious. 

the muslim clergy (mullahs) have, through their "ambassador" in 
Islamabad Maulavi Sayed-ur-Rahman Haqqani, countered the charges
with pronouncements so utterly ridiculous and deceitful that any 
objective, level-headed observer who still needs to be convinced 
would be rewarded with a remarkable insight into the brazenness 
and hopeless ignorance of the fundamentalists. 

The distinguished Taliban "ambassador" claims that "one hundred 
per cent of Afghan women are happy with islamic policies". The 
sheer shamelessness of this lie! What person in his or her right 
mind would be able to believe that Afghan women who 

- are penned up like sheep in the recesses of their homes 

- are deprived of the right to education and to work outside the 
house 

- are barred from seeking medical attention -even if they 
themselves or their children perish of hunger or for want of 
medical care 

- are compelled through extreme impoverishment to sell off their 
dear children 

- do not have the right to use all-women public bath-houses in 
conditions where few homes have bathing facilities 

- are insulted and humiliated and flogged for not wearing 
clothes in accordance with muslim tastes 

- whose only staunch and intrepid organisation (RAWA) is daily 
the target of blood-curdling terrorist threats 

--who, in his or her right mind and living day in and day out 
with hundreds of such senseless infringements on individual 
rights and liberties under Taliban domination would still 
support the islamic trademark policy of the gallows, the whip 
and systematic humiliation of the population at large? Only 
those of muslim moral and intellectual calibre would be capable 
of such an insult to humanity. If nothing else, the determined 
and intrepid struggle waged by RAWA and the participation of 
hundreds of women in RAWA-staged demonstrations and gatherings 
are a sufficient slap-in-the-mouth to the islamic mouthing such 
painful, yet hilarious, claims. 

The mullahs (islamic clergy) blurtwithout a modicum of 
shame, "We have given all basic rights to women." The Taliban's 
overall world outlook, shaped by nothing but years of rumination 
of decrepit madrassa subjects and totally alien to elementary 
history, geography, economics, physics, chemistry, etc., begs 
the question: What do the muslims understand of "basic rights"? 
How proud Goebbels would have been of such talented followers! 

The Taliban's savage treatment of women is so disastrously 
incredible that it has attracted world attention, and hundreds 
of human rights and women's rights organisations and pro-
democracy entities have condemned the Taliban barbarism and the 
violation of women's basic rights. The muslim clergy's 
intellectual calibre understands this as "giving basic rights to 
women"! 

The muslim "diplomat" goes on to say, "The days are gone when 
Afghan women had to commit suicide to save their honour from 
communist Gelamjam militias in Kabul. the Afghan Islamic Emirate 
has ensured protection of life and honour to womenfolk in 
Afghanistan in accordance with Islamic principles." He only 
mentions the villainy committed by "Gelamjam" militias [Dostum's 
followers] but shamefacedly shies away from mentioning the 
appalling infamy perpetrated by the Taliban's brethren-in- 
creed, the Jihadis, after the fall of the puppet regime. 
He "forgets" that if his Jihadi brethren-in-creed outdid their 
Dostum accomplices in savagely violating the honour of hundreds 
of women and girls, the complex-maddened muslims 
have "legalised" rape of women by forcibly marrying second, 
third and fourth wives without any consent of the women 
involved. Even if we for a moment give them the benefit of the 
doubt, it is common knowledge to all muslims and many non-
muslims that since the domination of the islamic clergy perverts 
rape of young boys has drastically increased and this wave of 
infamy is so widespread that not only innumerable families are 
sending their young sons abroad to save them from such shame, 
but even some time ago the Taliban chief, Mullah Omar, felt 
himself compelled to ask his followers to desist from keeping 
barefaced boys as their sex partners on the battle fronts! 

The Talib-cubs believe that by amputating hands and feet of 
alleged thieves, qasas [religiously sanctioned slitting of human 
throats] of alleged murderers, stoning to death of sex offenders 
and other savagely criminal punishments they are able to "ensure 
the life, honour and security of women" and cure society of all 
social ills. Little do they realise that social evils have deep 
social roots and that it is beyond the mental capability of 
rotten-to-the-core mediaevalist muslims and their like to remedy 
such social evils with sublime ignorance. At this writing, 
hundreds of reports of rape and murder and various forms of 
infamy committed by the Taliban are pouring in. Few such reports 
from the graveyard that our beloved Afghanistan has become are 
published in the media. What RAWA manages to publish to the 
world can only be considered as small examples of what is really 
going on. 

The learned Maulavi asserts: "Clinton has no right to interpret 
Islam as he has no knowledge about our religion." It would come 
as no surprise if this avowed enemy of freedom, democracy and 
women were to have the impertinence to assert that RAWA and 
other anti-fundamentalist organisations in our country and our 
freedom-loving people in general had no right to interpret their 
crimes as being not only against Islam but against any religion 
under the sun! Would the learned Maulavi condescend to accept 
the scathing criticism levelled against the Taliban's savagery 
by their brother regime -the Iranian theocracy- who have called 
the Taliban record of infamy "the shame of Islam"? Would the 
hundreds of thousands of men and women compatriots who seethe 
with hatred of the Taliban's crass ignorance, backwardness and 
cruelty all be considered outside the fold of Islam? 

The Taliban spokesman protests, "Why were human rights groups 
silent when sixty thousand people were killed in Kabul due to 
fighting among Afghan groups?" What the learned Maulavi means 
by 'human rights groups' is governments whose interests are in 
one way or another furthered by support to fundamentalists and 
who were silent over the massacres perpetrated by the Taliban's 
brethren-in-creed. What the Taliban really protest is why they 
do not enjoy the privilege of having their crimes overlooked 
when the Jihadi criminals were favoured by such oversight by 
their common sponsors and patrons. It may be that such 
governments and circles are somehow ashamed of their immoral 
silence over the massacre of some 60,000 Kabul citizens and wish 
to redress the wrong by not keeping silent over Taliban 
atrocities. This is a positive attitude, and it doubtless is a 
source of disappointment for the Taliban that their heinous 
crimes are too glaring to admit negligence. 

But as a general rule, the moral attitude of a nation, of the 
people themselves, is quite apart and distinct from that of the 
governments that govern them. Freedom-loving peoples and 
organisations standing up for human rights denounced the 
atrocities of the Taliban's Jihadi brethren-in-creed at the time 
and now expose and condemn the Taliban's barbarism and 
especially their savage misogyny. In fact it was the protest of 
American public opinion that prompted President Clinton to voice 
the American people's condemnation of the islamic rule, despite 
the fact that American allies in the region continue to support 
the selfsame Taliban criminals with cash and armaments. 

There is no great difference between the Taliban and their 
Jihadi brethren-in-creed. The Jihadis perpetrated their heinous 
crimes through crude use of arms and wanton carnage and looting. 
The Taliban do not desist from such a style; they have only 
complemented it with a subtler form of criminality. The islamic 
clergy pound the heads of the people of Afghanistan with the 
Koran and with their Sharia Law. The Jihadis specialised in 
physical devastation of our people; the muslims are experts in 
spiritual and psychological devastation. The strategy is to 
utterly beat the female half of the population into traumatised 
autism so that they would have nothing to fear from at least 
half the population. 

But holding the Kalashnikov in one hand and the Koran in the 
other will not spare the muslim from inevitable military and 
political death. Neither will these latest lies and shameless 
deceptions save them from the reckoning and trial of our 
insulted and humiliated people. 

It is superfluous to comment any further on the hilarious 
buffoonery mouthed by ignoramuses who as yet do not know whether 
the United States has a king or a president. Yet quoting what 
the Taliban "ambassador" has retorted to insult the intelligence 
of the world community may perhaps serve to bring a smile of 
disgust on the lips of Afghans, the most agonised people on 
Earth. For this reason we conclude with these bitter jokes: 

"One hundred per cent of Afghan women are happy with Taliban 
policies  We have given all basic rights to women  The days are 
gone when Afghan women had to commit suicide to save their 
honour from communist Gelamjam militias in Kabul "!!! 

We have decided to have people logged in and registered and 
perhaps pay to post on here.  The site has gone to hell and 
back. We need to get rid of Carol and UKW, etc. Perhaps, this 
would help offset the expense the adminstration has to absorb in 
orer to maintain this illustrious site.

above is five line posting in accordance with board rules.

illustrious site indeed..........Then you will see that there 
are only five or so people who actually post here, just like any 
site. 

Now does Get a grip have to pay for each different personality?I 
think that's unfair if so,and I don't know if he's short on money 
or not,but when we in K-Mart not long ago buying a shirt for me(a 
long story),I noticed that he put a Gregorian Chants CD 
under his shirt,so if he's not strapped for cash,then he's a 
kleptomanic.

We would have to include the several different personalitys you 
have as well <G>. But as for the shirt, Justice paid for half. I 
hate to say it but Wally and or u know who would probably pay to 
be on this site and spew the crapola, so even shoving a 
Gregorian Chand CD up his ass won't help. That is considering 
that Wally is this sites butt buddy. 

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - A would-be assassin of Afghan leaders 
was intercepted in Kabul when his automobile, loaded with 
explosives, was involved in a traffic accident, national 
television reported Monday.  

The suspect had planned to crash his car into a vehicle or 
vehicles carrying members of the national leadership, the TV 
report said, citing a statement issued by the Afghan 
intelligence service. 

The report did not say when the man was apprehended or how 
investigators had determined his alleged plans. 

The foiling of a suicide-assassination plot would be the latest 
episode in a series of killings and security incidents involving 
the transitional political leadership in Kabul.

We split the cost of the shirt but I cannot comment on the CD.  
I see nothing!

Well the police can't find the CD, they cavity searched Wally 
but that cantilope must have got in the way. 

I am outraged because a neighbor of mine has just had her dog 
poisoned.  The scumbags from an above building threw poisoned 
steak down to the dog and the poor thing ate it. The dog started 
going into convulsions and collapsing and is now in the animal 
hospital bearly clinging to life.  I wish the cowards that did 
this an equally painful death.  Some animals are better than 
people. So, gang, what should be done to these fucks that poison 
animals and kill poor little kids?   Do we call the cops or the 
ASPCA?  We have a witness that seen it.  What does one do?  I 
personally would like to blow their brains out.  

Board Goat has several lines above.  Only kiddin' about this 
being a paying site.  Anyone else get pissed off at this story?

It depends on the state you live in.Some have strict animal 
rights laws,but in many states nobody seems to give a fuck.If 
there is an eyewitness that's willing to testify,you've got a 
fighting chance,but 9 times out of 10,they'll get a fine,but 
serve no time for it.That kinda shit makes me sick.
 I can't tell you what you should do,but sometimes people don't 
keep full coverage on their cars after they've been paid off.It's 
really sad,because sometimes bad things happen to bad people's 
property.
 If you decide to invoke your own type of justice,be 
careful,remember the mercy they showed an innocent animal,and I 
applaud you for your thoughts and deeds.
 
 

Immediatly call the police, if only to get a report on record 
with the scumbags names on it. I don't know the circumstances, 
but it is well proven that many sicko's like Jeffery Dahmler 
started out on animals. Courts seem to be taking this crap a 
little more seriously now, at least more idiots seem to charged 
and at least have to go to court. I've always had a dog and 
currently have a 8 year old black lab that thinks he is human 
and if someone did that to him I'd be in jail, no doubt about it.

As Walter mentioned, there are ways of extracting justice if the 
courts are no help. Bad things happen to bad people. Locking gas 
caps are useless and there is that acid rain....

THE TERRORIST WITHIN
The story behind one man's holy war against America

A interesting read.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/news/nation-
world/terroristwithin/chapter1.html

Mmmmmmm, now let's just suppose about a gallon of oil spilled on 
their front step. just before work.....might be worth a watch?? 
Heven forbid a fall but you never know............

Then there is always a little epoxy in the locks, of the house, 
car & what ever else they own. It does get frustrating locking 
yourself out of the house now doesn't it? And these are just 
pranks, pray tell we really get mean...........They make those 
nice tubes called liquid nails, yes that's the stuff! might just 
glue the doors shut, works wonders on the home! <G> 

sniff.  Thanks.

Did i ever tell you men about the time i was busted sniffing 
dirty jock straps in catholic high school, my school chums 
thought it was pretty funny.

The most prominant group at this time:>

HAMAS was born in late 1987 in the Gaza Strip. By 1988, it was 
already seen as the primary rival to the established PLO. It was 
at this time that the "Intifada" began to explode throughout the 
occupied territories, and HAMAS' message was made available to 
the masses. Founded on Islamic nationalism, this group 
inherently more in common with the PLO than not, and the 
decision was made (partly in response to Israeli efforts to pit 
the two against one another) that by the leaders of HAMAS that 
while the two perhaps could not work together, any harm to one 
inherently detracted from the other. They were different in one 
important respect. While the PLO maintained a gradual, phased 
approach to the creation of a Palestinian homeland, HAMAS felt 
and acted, quite differently. Their plan of action was an 
immediate and unrelenting frontal assault (speaking 
metaphorically) against the Israeli nation. 

As HAMAS' course of action provided immediate results, its 
membership continued to grow. Nowhere was this more true than 
with the disgruntled young males of the slums and lower class 
neighborhoods who, analysts believe, had grown disillusioned 
with the slower and more acquiescent PLO. By 1991, HAMAS has 
gained enough prestige to represent a number of Palestinian 
groups at a major peace conference in Tehran. Following this 
meeting, HAMAS split entirely with the PLO when the latter 
refused to accept the former's request that it be granted a 
significant presence on the Palestine National Council. This 
division in Palestinian leadership spilled into the streets and 
was marked by open armed conflict between members of the two 
groups. Soon after this, a series of setbacks befell HAMAS, in 
the form of deportations of many of its members by the Israelis 
and arrested others. HAMAS never fully recovered from this blow, 
however known ties to Iran and suspected ties to individuals in 
the United States and Western Europe are at the very least 
maintaining the groups financial existence. This, coupled with 
an eager youth movement and a replenished leadership have caused 
terrorism watchers worldwide to acknowledge HAMAS once again as 
one of the leading organizations of its kind. 

Speculation is rampant that the group may be altering its focus 
from Islamic nationalism to the creation of an Islamic society. 
Whatever their new goals, it is acknowledged that the future of 
HAMAS lies in the results of the PLO-Israeli peace accords. If 
the PLO is able to accomplish its goals, it will grow stronger 
and HAMAS weaker. If, however, the negotiations break down, 
HAMAS is situated perfectly to challenge the PLO for the 
Palestinian leadership role. As of this writing, HAMAS and its 
armed militant wing known as Iz el-Deen, carries out continued 
bombings (including a large number of suicide bombings), 
assassinations, and kidnappings of those opposed to its 
existence. Primary targets are Jewish settlers as they are 
usually unarmed and traveling in buses. This makes them all the 
more appealing as they present the greatest opportunity for the 
infliction of casualties. HAMAS' existence has been complicated 
slightly by the January 24, 1995 Executive Order, signed by 
President Clinton which prohibits transactions with the group 
due to their potential for disrupting the Middle East peace 
process. includes: Iz el-Deen (al-Qassam) Forces 

Arafat and the PLO, 

Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) 
The Palestine Liberation Organization is undoubtedly one of the 
best known terrorist organizations in the world. Accordingly, 
the organization is led by perhaps the best known individual in 
the modern history of international terrorism; Yasser Arafat. 
The PLO was created in 1964 during a meeting known as the 
Palestinian Congress in an effort to give a voice to the large 
number of Palestinians living in refugee camps in Lebanon. It 
was not long before the group began to splinter into various 
factions, all of whom believed they knew the best way to achieve 
Palestinian liberation. Most notable of these groups were the 
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Popular 
Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Popular 
Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General 
Command, and al-Fatah. Each of these factions remained more-or-
less under the umbrella of the PLO and never strayed too far 
from the fold. 

By 1967 the PLO had decided that their primary goal was the 
destruction of the state of Israel. For the next ten years, this 
goal was the primary focus of the massive terrorist campaign by 
which their reputation was formed. This war cost untold hundreds 
of casualties on both sides with very little to show in return. 
Therefore, in 1974 the PLO made a conscious decision to alter 
its focus from the purely terrorist to one that would include 
political elements, necessary for any meaningful dialogue. This 
created more unhappiness amongst some followers who felt that 
the PLO, while striking blows, was not truly finding its mark. 
This led to the creation of yet another splinter group called 
the Rejectionist Front. It was at this time that Yassir Arafat 
and his group al-Fatah took over the leadership role. 

Things began to change quickly such as the all-important 
recognition of the PLO by the United Nations and by the Arab 
peoples at the Rabat Conference. Arafat deftly manipulated the 
organization from one perceived by the (Western) public as 
barbaric into one slowly being considered a movement with 
legitimate claims. Israel, perhaps sensing the growing sympathy, 
redoubled its efforts to eliminate the Palestinian threat. In 
1982, the Israeli army swept into Beirut, Lebanon and forced the 
PLO to flee from its bastion. In a decision that radical 
Palestinians resented, Arafat agreed to come to the bargaining 
table to discuss peace with Israeli leaders. Little came of 
these talks, and soon after dissension within the ranks of the 
PLO became more pronounced and some of the moderate leaders were 
assassinated. 

Perhaps in an attempt to reconcile with these dissenters, Yassir 
Arafat decided to provide support for the hijacking of a major 
cruise ship. The ship that was select was the Achille Lauro and 
what would happen next would do more damage to the reputation of 
the PLO than anything that had happened previously. Together 
with operatives from the PLF, terrorists seized the vessel and 
took the entire ship hostage. In a cowardly and reprehensible 
act, members of the team shot to death a wheelchair-bound Jewish 
passenger named Leon Klinghoffer, then dumped his body 
overboard. World response was swift, condemning, and slow to 
recover. 

By 1988, Arafat had taken the diplomatic road one step further 
when he not only announced the right of the state of Israel to 
exist but renounced PLO terrorism. The perceived commitment to 
these ideals caused Israel to finally agree to serious talks 
with the PLO. The result of these discussions was that today the 
Palestinian people live under partial self-rule and seem on the 
way to obtaining the homeland they have yearned for years. In 
recent years, Palestinian youths have become disillusioned by 
what they perceive as the plodding nature of the PLO in regard 
to its pursuit of an independent Palestinian nation. Many of 
these followers have joined the either HAMAS or Hizballah. On 9 
September 1993, in letters to Israeli Prime Minister Rabin and 
Norwegian Foreign Minister Holst, PLO Chairman Arafat committed 
the PLO to cease all violence and terrorism. 

On 13 September 1993, the Declaration of Principles between the 
Israelis and Palestinians was signed in Washington, DC. Between 
9 September and 31 December, the PLO factions loyal to Arafat 
complied with this commitment except for one, perhaps two, 
instances in which the responsible individuals apparently acted 
independently. Two groups under the PLO umbrella, the Popular 
Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and the Democratic 
Front for the Liberation of Palestine-Hawatmeh faction (DFLP-H), 
suspended their participation in the PLO in protest of the 
agreement and continued their campaign of violence. Today, 
Yassar Arafat and the PLO participate in a tentative peace with 
the Israeli government in an effort to stabilize tensions and 
establish a mutually acceptable resolution to the decades-old 
conflict. 

Shining Path, a/k/a: Sendero Luminoso, Communist Party of Peru 
for the Shining Path of Jose Carlos Mariategui

Shining Path is considered by many to be the most dangerous and 
violent terrorist organization in the world. The group derives 
its name from Mariategui, an avowed Marxist, who once stated 
that Marxism was a "shining path to the future." Yet, despite 
this apparent connection, Shining Path espouses a neo-Maoist 
orientation and was formed as a splinter group of the Communisty 
Party of Peru. The goal of this organization is the destruction 
of the existing Peruvian government in favor of an Indian-run 
socialist system. It attempts to carry out this goal by 
attempting to incite a rural-based insurgency, facilitated by 
the formation of a peasant revolutionary regime (known 
as "People's Republic of a New Democracy"). SP has managed to 
succeed in part due to its use of names and symbols from the 
Indian heritage of the rural regions. This appears to have 
attracted support that may not have come about through a 
strictly ideological approach. SP terrorism has resulted in the 
deaths of between ten and twelve thousand since SP's creation in 
1970 (SP's formal campaign did not begin until May 17, 1980). 
The vast majority of these killings have been inflicted on 
Peruvian nationals, although Shining Path is certainly not 
opposed to attacking visiting diplomats from other nations. In 
1986, SP brought their form of revolution into the metropolitan 
areas of Peru. 

Along with the PLO and the IRA, Sendero Luminoso, has managed to 
make a permanent name for itself in the arena of terrorism. So 
effective have their activities become, that in 1991, Peruvian 
President Alberto Fujimori endowed his administration with 
emergency rule, enabling him to operate much more aggressively 
against the Maoist Shining Path guerrillas. The result of this 
has been the unprecedented capture of over 2,500 SP terrorists. 
Most notable of these was the arrest of SL leader Abimael Guzman 
Reynoso (a/k/a: "Comrade Gonzalo"), who was subsequently 
sentenced to life in prison, along with more than 100 of his 
compatriots. In 1993, over 1,000 of these terrorists were 
convicted on various charges, although the number would likely 
not have been so high had hundreds of former SP members not 
cooperated with the government. This complicity also netted SP 
Central Committee member and regional chief "Comrade Albino" who 
was, in 1995, convicted of ordering the murders of over 100 
people and sentenced to life in prison. Reynoso is currently 
housed in a specially-constructed prison located on a Navy base 
in the port city of Callao, Peru, while Tenorio resides Yanomayo 
Prison in the southern highlands. This separation of SP members 
follows official government policy to further complicate, if not 
abolish, the possibility of Shining Path being run from 
the "inside". 

SP is currently led on the outside by Oscar Ramirez Durand 
(a/k/a: "Comrade Feliciano") and Judith Ramos Cuadros 
(a/k/a: "Comrade Rita"). Durand's ascendancy to the leadership 
role has resulted in the continuation of Shining Path's campaign 
of violence. This is interesting because it directly contradicts 
Reynoso's 1995 call for negotiations between SP and the Fujimori 
government. Durand was previously best-known as heading up a 
faction of SP known as Red Path, a position he continues to 
hold. A raid conducted in December of 1994 turned up reams of 
documents which linked SP to a well-known drug trafficker. This 
relationship included massive donations of weapons and equipment 
from this source to Durand, for use in anti-government 
operations.

These same documents also described a major lack or food and 
medical supplies, which may, in the long run, prove the deciding 
factor in continued Shining Path operations. In the short term, 
it explains the recent rash in thefts of such commodities from 
rural markets by heavily armed men. The fufutre of SL will 
depend on its ability to maintain focus and momentum through 
periods of leaderlessness. Unlike many other Latin American 
subversive groups, SL has never relied on Cuba or other foreign 
sponsors for its survival. This self-sufficiency (facilitated by 
a support network amongst radical middle-class intellectual 
circles) may provide SL and edge over other Latin American 
groups, who have suffered with the loss of financial and other 
support they came to rely on over the past decades.

Funding for the group continues to come primarily from robberies 
and associated crimes, although it must be mentioned that a 
significant revenue source remains the "war tax" which SL 
demands from local businesses and individuals. There also seems 
to be no shortage of manpower, a vital element which can be 
attributed directly to their aggressive recruiting process. 
Their well-established indoctrination programs frequently target 
young teenagers who are easily molded into the fanatical 
terrorists required to pursue SL's goals. 

Hizballah, a/k/a: Party of God, Islamic Jihad (Islamic Holy 
War), Revolutionary Justice Organization, Organization of the 
Oppressed on Earth, Islamic Jihad for the Liberation of 
Palestine. 

Hizballah, or Party of God, is one of the more significant 
indepenence movements based in the Middle East. This Lebanese 
Shi'ite group was created in 1983 with strong guidance from the 
Islamic government in Iran. Its goal today, as always, is the 
creation of an independent, Islamic Lebanon and the ouster of 
anything related to the "godless West", which is borne out in 
their virulently anti-U.S. and anti-Israel activities. In light 
of these facts, it is no surprise that Hizballah has been 
extremely active in its efforts to disrupt the process. Examples 
of this are plentiful, but have included mass demonstrations, 
guerrilla strikes from camps in the Bekaa Valley and the much 
feared suicide car bombings.

Their targets have included Israeli civilians and military 
personnel, but have increasingly their attention has been turned 
to the South Lebanon Army. The SLA is allied with the Israelis 
and is responsible for stopping Hizballah within its area of 
operation that includes the area between known terrorist bases 
and Israeli territory. Hizballah has taken significant losses in 
men and material, but strong backing from Iran has definitely 
benefited the group, both in terms of training and weaponry. 

The group's military wing, Islamic Resistance Movement (not to 
be confused with HAMAS which also uses the name), has received a 
steady supply of advanced explosives and detonating devices 
which has enabled Hizballah to create what has become their 
trademark: the car bomb. Never was this capability more evident 
than the infamous 1983 attack on the U.S. Marine barracks in 
Beirut. In this incident, a suicide bomber drove an explosives-
laden truck through the inadequate perimeter defenses before 
setting off his bomb. The resulting explosion collapsed the 
building, killing hundreds. Katuysha rockets have also been used 
by this group in retaliatory attacks on Jewish settlements. 

Hizballah sometimes operates under the name Islamic Jihad for 
the Liberation of Palestine, which sometimes causes confusion 
due to the fact that another group, Palestine Islamic Jihad, 
operates in the same area and has attacked some of the same type 
of targets. Hizballah has spawned numerous splinter groups as 
well. Most notable of these may well be a little-known 
group "Supporters of God". In March 1992, an immense car bomb 
destroyed the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires, Argentina. An 
identical device exploded there on July 18 outside a Jewish 
community center killing nearly 100 civilians. It wasn't until 
the 23, 1994 that a credible claim was made as to who carried 
out the attacks. In a statement out of Lebanon, a group calling 
itself Ansarollah ("Supporters of God" or "Partisans of God") 
announced that it was responsible for not only these horrendous 
acts, but also for the little-known bombing of a Panamanian 
commuter flight that crashed near Colon on July 19. The Lebanese 
government provided information that confirmed not only the 
existence of the group, but additionally linked Supporters of 
God to Hizballah. As car bombs are a signature weapon of 
Hizballah, the possibility that the builders of the bombs, if 
not members of Hizballah, may very well have received their 
training from the Palestinians. 

Hizballah's existence has been complicated slightly by the 
January 24, 1995 Executive Order, signed by President Clinton 
which prohibits transactions with the group due to their 
potential for disrupting the Middle East peace process. As 
mentioned previously, Hizballah obtains the majority of its 
external support from the Islamic regime in Iran. World pressure 
has recently been increased against nations sponsoring 
international terrorism, with significant santions being imposed 
against said sponsors. Nonetheless, Iran has not relented and 
Hizballah remains one of the most significant terrorist 
organizations operating today. 

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/news/nation-
world/terroristwithin/

The PLO began in the 1960's in the time when Komeini was yet to 
enter the scene. As time went on and the PLO became fractured in 
the mid 1980's the mor radical and self focused groups emerged. 
To this date we have the following:> Be glad I didn't post all 
the profiles <G> All these little armies rely on support from 
wealthy sponsors like churches, black market operations and 
direct government support. 

Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
Abu Sayyaf Group
Al-'Asifa
Al-Fatah 
Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya
Algerian Terrorism
al-Jihad
Anti-Imperialist International Brigade (AIIB)
Arab Revolutionary Brigades
Arab Revolutionary Council
Armed Islamic Group
Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia (ASALA)
Basque Fatherland and Liberty (ETA)


Euskadi ta Askatasuna (ETA) Special Profile
Black September
Chukaku-Ha (Nucleus or Middle Core Faction)
Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP)
Dev Sol
Devrimci Sol (Revolutionary Left)
DHKP/C
EGTK
Ellalan Force
ELN
Fatah Revolutionary Council
Federation of Associations of Canadian Tamils (FACT)
15 May Organization
Force 17
GIA
HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement)

HAMAS Special Profile 
Harakat ul-Ansar (HUA)
Hizballah (Party of God)

Hizballah Special Profile
The Islamic Group (IG)
Islamic Jihad
Jamaat ul-Fuqra
Japanese Red Army (JRA) 
Jihad Group
Kach
Kahane Chai
Khmer Rouge
Kurdistan Labor Party (PKK)

Kurdistan Labor\Workers Party (PKK) Special Profile
Kurdistan Workers Party
Lautaro Popular Rebel Forces (FRPL)
Lautaro Youth Movement (MJL)
The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) 
Manuel Rodriguez Patriotic Front (FPMR)
The Mojahedin-e Khalq (MEK) / Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization 
(MKO)

Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization Special Profile
Morazanist Patriotic Front (FPM)
Muslim Iranian Students Society (MEK front organization used to 
garner financial support)
National Council of Resistance (NCR)
National Liberation Army (ELN) - Bolivia / Nestor Paz Zamora 
Commission (CNPZ)
National Liberation Army (ELN)--Colombia
The National Liberation Army of Iran (The military wing of the 
MEK)
New iihad Group
New People's Army (NPA)
Organization of the Oppressed on Earth
The Orly Group
Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO)

Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) Special Profile
Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
Party of Democratic Kampuchea
The People's Mujahedin of Iran (PMOI)
PKK
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command 
(PFLP-GC)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-Special Command 
(PFLP-SC)
Popular Struggle Front (PSF)
Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA)
The Provos
Puka Inti (Sol Rojo, Red Sun)
Red Army Faction (RAF)
Red Brigades (BR)
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC)
Revolutionary Justice Organization
Revolutionary Organization 17 November (17 November)
Revolutionary Organization of Socialist Muslims
Revolutionary People's Liberation Party/Front (DHKP/C)
Sendero Luminoso (Shining Path, SL)

Shining Path Special Profile
Sikh Terrorism
Sol Rojo
Talaa'al-Fateh
3rd October Organization)
Tupac Amaru Revolutionary Movement (MRTA)

Tupac Amaru (MRTA) Special Profile
Tupac Katari Guerrilla Army (EGTK)
United Popular Action Movement (MAPU/L) [Lautaro faction of ]
Vanguards of Conquest
World Tamil Association (WTA)
World Tamil Movement (WTM)

And to think we have the Hells angels, Pagans, Fates assembly, 
Celtic cross, Sons of God, Blue Knights, Booze fighters, and so 
on & on here in America. Just good ol boys 

My 1st week at Compaq:


 .........After watching people build computers all week 
long,it's hard to believe that anything happens when you push 
the"on"button...........

...........found out they were putting Celeron chips in computers 
with Pentium 4 stamped on them....wanted to recall the 
shipment,but was told that we don't say anything unless they 
notice and ship them back............

....same with RAM memory.......256MB in computers that say 512 on 
the box........fuck it....let em go.....

 I'm starting to remember why I liked being self-employed so 
much......

Shuuush. LOL!! Big business, (cough/gag). I love working at a 
small family (not mine) owned company that clearly gets repeat 
customers and new customers because of quality and service, 
GASP! My districts represenative in the House, Don Manzullo, is 
chairman of the small business committee of the House in 
Washington. Now the only reason I bring him up is to give him a 
plug! A very earthbound politition and his mom & dad have had an 
excellent resturaunt in New Milford, Illinois for many years and 
the kids grew up working. The guy actually came to our plant and 
talked to EVERYBODY a year ago. He is a Republican, but recently 
critisised (and wants a price gouging investigation into) Bush's 
foreign steel tarriffs. Small business is getting killed on 
steel prices now. 

Thanks Merlyn for all the info, have to take sometime to read 
all. I am also reading the site that OM/Cf recommended.

There are so many organization. I really wonder what are they 
teaching. Is it Death or Life? Is it kill or save? Is it revenge 
or forgiveness? Only the Muslims community will know.

While trying to escape through Pakistan, Osama Bin Laden found a
bottle 
    on a beach and picked it up. Suddenly, a female genie 
    rose from the bottle and with a smile said "Master, may I 
grant you
one 
    wish?" 
    
    "You ignorant unworthy daughter-of-a-dog! Don't you know who 
I am? 
    I don't need any common woman giving me anything!" barked 
Bin Laden.

    
    The shocked genie said "Please, I must grant you a wish or I 
will be
returned 
    to that bottle forever." 
    
    Osama thought a moment, then grumbled about the 
    impertinence of the woman, and said, "Very well, I want to 
awaken
with 
    three white women in my bed in the morning, so just do it 
and be off
with you!" 
    
    The annoyed genie said, "So be it!" and disappeared. The next
morning Bin 
    Laden woke up in bed with Lorena Bobbitt, Tonya Harding, and 
Hillary

    Clinton. His penis was gone, his knee was broken, and he had 
no
health 
    insurance. God is good. 
    

Welcome to the corporate world.  I used to work for Best Buy and 
I saw all of the same shit.  We would never do anything unless 
the customer bitched about it.  The news is showing us day in 
and day out how many corrupt corporations there really are out 
there.  They don't care who gets screwed as long as they make a 
buck.  I like where I work now.  We are nationwide but not a 
corporation.  If I have a beef I can take it to one person, my 
boss who is the sole owner of the company.  Just watch your back 
Walter.  You have to look out for yourself because in the 
corporate world no one else will.  Maybe you can crack some 
skulls and get some changes done there.

Company policys
1 you pay taxes so I don't have to
2 you pay for health insurance so I don't have to
3 you work so I don't have to
4 you get blamed for all wrong doing so I don't have to
5 you pay into the retirement plan so I don't have to
6 you risk your health and die of stress so I don't have to
7 you sit in traffic morning and night and risk your life so I 
don't have to
8 you loose everything in the end so I don't have to

Company benifits

1 company picnic so I can make you see all my wealth that you 
don't have and gloat so you don't have to

That was a bad mistake you made and one that will never be 
forgotten. I guess you think your all powerfull and have done 
rite but u havnt. This is a true statement bin ladin----

          You will die.

So just to let you know there will be american forces launching 
missiles at you. You cant run or hide bin ladin. America WILL 
find and destroy you. So start praying now. 

Its time to accept what is comming and fight if needs be, 
everyones as bad as each other so pick your team and die.

Time is very near, the operation has begun. The noose is about 
to be pulled tight. 

http://yonkis.ya.com/demonia.htm

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/07/30/binladen.son/index.html

This could either be true or an attempt by the U.S.A. to see if 
they can flush him out of hiding to denounce his death or flush 
out one of his members to come forth and announce his life/death 
situation.

Elvis bin Laden lives? :(

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20020730-051149-1275r

Thanks again for all the good vibes and thoughts and mad love to 
all of you!  Sentimental Board Goat went to visit Hector The Dog 
today and he was able to STAND.  Tests show that it was rat 
poison that the scumbag fed to him and his blood levels still 
show damage to kidney and liver.  Hector will have to be kept in 
the hospital for a few days.  I called up ASPCA Police and was 
told we need to file a formal complaint at the local police 
station and then proceed to get a letter from the vet's 
witnesses, etc.  Hope we can put this peice of shit coward that 
preys on animals behind bars!  Please continue to send out warm 
and healing thoughts to Hector.  A Pit Bull so gentle that my 
friends 8 year old daughter rides him like a pony in the street 
and the seven cats he used to live with used to scratch and bite 
him and he would lick them.  PRAYERS FOR HECTOR, THE WONDER 
DOG!!!

i suck nigger dick, and love it.

Your making my mouth water..mmmmmmmmm nigger dick

Thanks for the update. Thats going to run up a big vet bill. If 
its my dog, in addition to any criminal proceedings, the 
motherfucker who did it would be getting a civil court summons 
served as well. In Illinois small claims courts you can sue for 
up to 2 grand for around a $35 filing charge and if (likely) the 
dipshit doesn't show for court, the judge usually rules against 
the defendent and often will issue a wage deduction order on the 
spot if the evidence is there. Failing that, a knife with at 
least a 1/2" blade width can be used very casually and discretly 
on tire sidewalls rendering them useless and unrepairable.

when are the fuckin niggers ever gonna get der sheete 
toogedder, fucking spear-chuckin' jungle bunnies.

fuckin niggers, on welfare, smellin' up the place send the 
glassy-eyed, spear-chuckin' juhngle bunnies back home to get 
some belly swell and aids

I used to have a boxer dog.  He was loved like everyone else in 
the family, and if anyone had ever tried to hurt him, I'd likely 
have grabbed my mother's iron and busted the fucker's skull.  It 
sure is good though to hear that the dog is getting better.  Pit 
bulls are very sweet dogs, despite all of the rumors otherwise.  
I guess that his being a pit bull reminded me of my boxer, as the 
two breeds are very si

Damn!  My message got cut off again.  That last word was 
"similar", or would have been.  Anyway, may the fucker who 
poisoned the dog have to clean dog shit in every public park in 
your state for the next ten years as punishment.               

feed a nigger to your pit-bull. while you're at it shave you 
wifes filthy cunt too, fat cock-sucking bitch!

So you have proven the theory that not all people evolve.  It is 
sad that people like you get left behind on the evolutionary 
cycle.  Open your mind and let your hate go.

I'm going to eat your right testicle with some fava beans and a 
nice dr pepper

My offer still stands.....5 bucks a week for eating my dogs shit 
off the lawn....wadda ya say, of course, the 12 year old 
neighbor boy who mows will be your boss and he's a real slave 
driver!

Hi, Get a grip that was a funny joke about the Genie.

Nobody knows whether Osama is dead or alive. We should just 
leave it as that. Carry on and fight terrorism. Osama makes no 
difference. He is not the only terrorist. If we say he is dead 
and one day he appear then we would be laugh at and probably 
they will say the he rise from the death by the power of Allah 
and start all their propaganda again and trust me all those 
ignorant people with very little informations about what 
happening in the world would believe. So we should just leave 
him out for now. Don't make him that important it will back fire.

Honestly I believe he is still hiding together with Omar the 
head of Taliban somewhere in Iran or Pakistan.

On July 24, the New York Times ran a horrific picture of a dead 
two-month-old child wrapped in the Palestine flag on its front 
page. The death was a result of the Israeli bombing attack that 
killed Hamas leader Salah Shehada in Gaza City, which also took 
the lives of 14 civilians. It was an explicit and distressing 
image, revealing the deplorable realties of war and the 
repercussions suffered by innocent bystanders; in this case, 
civilians who were utilized as shields by the leader of one of 
the world s most merciless terrorist organizations. 
Unfortunately, the New York Times  Middle East agenda is such 
that we will never see a similar shot of dead Israeli children   
who, unlike Palestinian children, are deliberately targeted. 

Shehada was the leader of Hamas  terrorist military wing and 
genius mastermind behind the Palestinians  policy of dispatching 
brainwashed religious fanatics, snuggly fit with high 
explosives, into Israeli population centers to blow themselves 
up. An Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman said that Shehada "was 
personally responsible for orchestrating attacks against 
hundreds of civilians over the past two years." Shehada hid like 
a true coward among his own family, in a densely populated 
apartment building in Gaza, banking on Israeli restraint. 

Israel s security officials, meanwhile, said that Shehada was in 
the process of planning a massive wave of terrorist attacks 
against civilians. Not surprising, as Hamas " will not rest  
until we see Zionist body parts in every restaurant, bus stop, 
buses and sidewalk." The Israeli government said that the IDF 
had been targeting Shehada for some time, and had canceled 
previous attempts to strike at him because of innocent 
bystanders.

Nine of Hamas  recent attacks under Shehada, including the 
Dolphinarium nightclub, the Park Hotel and Sbarros massacres, 
killed a total of 151 Israelis, including numerous children. The 
intended targets of these operations were civilians   not one of 
the murdered was "collateral damage." Shehada s pending campaign 
included a plan to rig a truck with 600 kilograms of explosives 
to blow up the recently constructed Gush Katif bridge, the sole 
route used by hundreds of Israelis daily to travel to and from 
their communities. 

Where was the repellent UN human rights chief Mary Robinson, who 
denounced the bombing as the "reckless killing of civilians," 
when Israelis were mourning their dead children? Her commission 
was busy voting to condone suicide bombings as a legitimate 
means to establish Palestinian statehood. While president of 
Ireland, she pressed for European Union aid to the Palestinian 
Authority, despite evidence that the money was being siphoned to 
terror groups. Eventually, at least $9 million of that money 
ended up helping finance terror attacks.

Perhaps, if the UN had taken even token action against 
Palestinian terror, instead of coddling and rationalizing it, 
this type of preemptive exercise would be unnecessary. But 
instead, in its customary approach, the UN Security Council 
convened an emergency meeting on the situation in the Modest on 
Thursday for the sole purpose of condemning Israel. The United 
States said it would take part in a UN Security Council debate 
on a Gaza raid, but only reluctantly, and indicated it would 
oppose any UN resolution   always an intelligent choice. 

The latest proposed condemnation against "the continued Israeli 
military aggression against the Palestinian people and the 
Palestinian Authority" doesn't lower itself to mention deadly 
attacks against Israeli civilians. 

Despite US support in the UN, President Bush was reportedly 
upset at the damage done and that the Israeli military used an 
American-made F-16 jet to drop a laser-guided bomb into a 
densely packed neighborhood. "This heavy-handed action does not 
contribute to peace," White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said. 
Fleischer then dismissed any equivalence between the air strike 
in Gaza and the U.S. bombings in Afghanistan   never mind 
Dresden, Hiroshima, Baghdad or Serbia   that had taken civilian 
lives. 

Israel Radio quoted Ariel Sharon as confiding to aides in a 
closed meeting that "Israel did not know that there were 
civilians in Shehada's house. Had it known this, it would have 
found another way to hit him." The problem is that Israeli 
military action will be instantly condemned as a war crime, and 
needless to say, Israel does not need to enter the Gaza strip, 
imperiling the lives of its soldiers to arrest a degenerate 
murder like Shehada when a warplane can take care of business. 

But the manifest moral disparity between the two sides of this 
conflict can be seen through the aftermath of the bombing. In 
Israel, citizens mourn for the loss of life, they have 
acknowledged their disgust at civilian casualties of war. The 
government will certainly launch an investigation into the 
events. Were the situation reversed, Palestinians would take to 
the streets to cheer the death of Jewish children, as they have 
so often before. 

Now I am no expert on terrorists and how they play their games, 
for sure. But it seems binny's bones could provide a substantial 
monetary windfall for future terrorist actions. With the various 
rewards on his ragwrapped, nasty, bug infested, un-trimed 
bearded, big-lipped head I was hopefull one of his own would 
drag his carcass into a Pakistani town behind a horse to collect 
the rewards and pose for pics for the media. Its not mentioned 
much on the board anymore but I think most want some (and I hate 
this word) "closure" on bin Lucifer. I hope to hell those 
bodyguards are getting "special" treatment at Guantanamo, but I 
doubt they are.

I agree with you, many Isreal children are deliberately killed 
and there is no parade, no hero funeral, no wrapping of flags or 
any kind of propaganda win support from the world. So I hope 
those people who protest what the Isreal is doing should open 
their eyes like how you call yourself.

It was a targeted hit on a terrorist who has plan so many kills 
of innocent civilians but unfortunately those around including 
those children are killed.  We should ask. Why is this people 
alway surrounded by women and children? Did these women and 
children voluntered to shield their so call hero?

These people are using the young ones to do the killing, why 
don't they go commit suicide themselves. So many suicide bombers 
are below 21. It is sad.

Tenagers are the easier to be influence into violence, street 
protest, rioting and etc. Honestly if I were to be in their 
position, knowing very little of what happening around the 
world. Being taught from young to hate Isreal and the West. 
Being told that it is because of Isreal that we are suffering. 
Seing so many of my friends being killed without knowing the 
actual reason. I would probably do the same too.

So to be able to have peace all these must be remove from their 
mind.

Sorry, I mean in their position, at their age. If it were to be 
at myh age. I will try to teach peace and probably I would be 
killed by Arafat himself.

Great Minds Think Alike 
The Israeli group IMRA has excerpts from four sermons by local 
Muslim clerics on Arab television. All four were delivered last 
Friday:

Saudi Arabia: "O God, destroy the tyrant Jews and their 
supporters for they are within your power."

Iraq: "O God, destroy the Jews and Americans for they are within 
your power."

Jordan: "O God, destroy the Jews and the aggressors."

Yemen: "O God, destroy the Jews and their supporters. O God, 
destroy the Christians and their supporters for they are within 
your power."

Sounds as if they're reading from the same script, doesn't it? 
Note that only the Iraqi imam calls for the destruction of 
America, but our friends the Saudis, Jordanians and Yemenis all 
seem to be getting at the same thing.




This is the problem. I have never once heard any of our priests 
or Bishop calling for death to Arabs or Muslims even by the 
hands of God. We were always told to pray for them to find peace 
among themselves and the world so that we can all live as 
children of God. So as Jesus say "God forgive them for the don't 
know what they are doing".

We have every reason to be distressed, angry and disgusted. We 
are distressed at the accidental deaths of Palestinian 
civilians, children included, in a military operation against a 
cruel and evil mass murderer. But Salah Shehadeh was aware that 
he topped Israel's hit list and deliberately chose to shield 
himself among civilians in a densely populated area. The deaths 
and injuries in Gaza City are his responsibility. 

We have reason to be angry that Gideon Meir, head of Israel's 
Foreign Ministry Information Department, rushes to tell CNN and 
the BBC that the strike was "indefensible," and that Foreign 
Minister Shimon Peres follows with an outright apology. 

Apology for what? Given the carnage orchestrated by Shehadeh and 
his gang of savages, such apologies which are tantamount to an 
acknowledgment of guilt are a form of masochism. They are even 
more grotesque in view of our desperate efforts unlike those of 
any other nation to try to minimize civilian casualties, 
frequently at the cost of the lives of our own soldiers. 

What are we expected to do when we locate the Palestinian 
counterpart to bin Laden brazenly organizing new, large-scale 
terror attacks?
Are we to stand by with folded arms until more of our children 
are blown to pieces? The chorus of hypocritical international 
bleeding hearts with their usual double standards is beneath 
contempt. Their condemnations contrast starkly to their muted 
responses to the suicide bombers and terror attacks targeted 
against Israeli civilians. 

None of our detractors questioned why a mass murderer could be 
permitted to live and work among civilians while actively 
plotting to kill more Israelis. Instead, we are informed that 
Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, head of an organization whose goal is the 
destruction of Israel, and who is one of the chief instigators 
of suicide martyrdom, was allegedly on the point of agreeing to 
a cease-fire. This report comes from Reuters, which quoted 
Yassin as saying that Hamas would "consider" a cease-fire if, 
among other conditions, Israel evacuated the West Bank and 
released Palestinian prisoners. The timing of this report is 
transparent as psychological warfare to create the impression 
that the killing of Shehadeh was a Sharon conspiracy to kill the 
negotiations. 

THE GALL of tyrants who inhabit the United Nations, who condemn 
Israel while remaining silent over bestial acts of genocide 
which take place among their own members, defies belief. Kofi 
Annan sanctimoniously lectures Israel about international law in 
the knowledge that Shehadeh brazenly continued recruiting, 
planning, and manufacturing bombs for suicide martyrs right 
until the moment of his elimination. No word from the UN 
secretary-general regarding the international legal implications 
of a regime enabling mass murderers to carry out their 
activities in the full light of day. 

The shameless Europeans are of course again targeting Israel for 
war crimes. In this context it is noteworthy that Javier Solana, 
the European representative to the Middle East a biased and 
hostile critic of Israel crossed all red lines some days ago by 
holding a personal meeting with none other than Hamas leader 
Yassin. Yet paradoxically, Solana was secretary-general of NATO 
three years ago during the 78-day aerial bombardment of 
Yugoslavia which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of innocent 
civilians. 

He himself approved the use of cluster bombs on crowded cities 
and densely populated areas, including the botched effort to 
assassinate Slobodan Milosevic by bombing his bunker which was 
located in a residential neighborhood. Contrast that to Israel. 
According to Ha'aretz correspondent Amir Oren, out of more than 
100 assassinations of terrorists in the territories, innocent 
bystanders were killed on fewer than half a dozen occasions. Yet 
despite this, Europe is one of the leaders in the campaign to 
demonize Israel. 

Naturally the Third World joins in, too, particularly the 
Africans for whom practicing genocide against one another is 
almost de rigueur. 

Then there are the Chinese, whose respect for human rights in 
Tibet and elsewhere is fully on record. And of course the 
Russians, whose handling of the Chechen insurrection hardly 
reflects the humanitarian considerations they demand of us.
Regrettably, even our friends the Americans this time felt 
sufficiently pressured to join the pack. We have been 
reprimanded for being "excessive" and "heavy handed." 

Yet in 1986, after an American soldier was killed by terrorists 
in a German nightclub, president Ronald Reagan ordered an air 
strike on the residence of Libya's Muammar Gaddafi. He escaped, 
but 37 civilians, including his daughter, were killed. 

There were no condemnations by the United Nations or the 
Europeans on that occasion. 

A FEW months ago, referring to casualties incurred among non-
combatant family members of al-Qaida, US Defense Secretary 
Donald Rumsfeld told The New York Times that the women and 
children were in the battle zone "of their own free will, [and] 
know who they're with and who they're supporting and who they're 
encouraging and who they're assisting." 

Even more recently, the Americans acknowledged that the killing 
of 400 Afghani civilians in a bombing raid was an accident. The 
implication was that what was an "accident" for the Americans is 
for Israel targeted killing with malicious intent. 

It would indeed be stretching the imagination somewhat to 
visualize the United States standing aside and passing up an 
opportunity to eliminate bin Laden out of concern for the 
welfare of civilians living with him. 

We are at war and Israeli civilians are being murdered every 
day. In such circumstances, the primary obligation of any 
government must be to defend its citizens. The government has no 
choice but to intensify its efforts to dispose of all who 
threaten the lives of its populace. 

It is therefore high time that we stopped apologizing for 
civilians killed because they live in proximity to leading 
terrorists who openly plot to kill Israeli civilians. As John 
Podhoretz noted in a recent New York Post article reprinted in 
these pages on Sunday ("Living Camouflage," July 28) the Fourth 
Geneva Convention (Part 3, Article 1, Section 28) states 
explicitly that "The presence of a protected person may not be 
used to render certain points or areas immune from military 
operations." 

Thus, Arab civilian communities should be clearly warned that 
they risk their lives if they choose to live in proximity to 
those trying to kill us. 

They should understand that the days are over when they could, 
without risk, indulge in public demonstrations of embracing 
martyrs, and hold street celebrations every time an Israeli 
civilian is blown up. 

There are those who claim that our actions will only bring about 
reprisals and intensify the terror. That is not so. The 
Palestinian terror machine has certainly not exercised restraint 
these past three months and it is no secret that if they could 
kill more of us they would do so irrespective of how many 
terrorists or civilians we harmed. It is not as though we have 
not endeavored with unilateral cease-fires and other efforts 
to "break the cycle of violence." We tried again and again and 
the response was always more terrorism and more suicide 
bombings. 

THERE ARE no simple solutions, but the killings could end 
overnight. Almost all Israelis are appalled at the thought of 
indefinitely ruling over the Palestinians. The Palestinian 
Authority has only to announce an end to terror, arrest the 
killers, and make a genuine effort to enforce law and order. 
Israel would respond immediately. Negotiations would follow, and 
the bloodshed would be halted. 

But as long as the murderers carry on business as usual, with 
the PA looking on approvingly, Israel has no choice. 

We take pride that despite the provocations and the broad 
support for suicide bombers by the Palestinian people, we have 
retained our humanity and Jewish moral standards. While 
Palestinians express joy at every Israeli civilian killed, we 
remain genuinely distressed whenever innocent Palestinians men, 
women, or children are harmed in a war we do not seek. 

But if a mass murderer is killed and innocent civilians die with 
him because they are living in proximity to the area in which he 
plots the killings, then they are the inevitable victims of war. 

This not apologies is what Israeli spokesmen should be conveying 
to the world. 

I read a article today online about an attack on a Jew 
settlement by a Palestinian that caught my attention but I can't 
find it now other than a mention on the DEBKA site. But, a short 
story short. As has been happening, a Palestinian terrorist 
breaks into the home of an Isreali couple with bad intentions. 
He looks all through the house for the CHILDREN (8 of them), but 
they are not there, spending two days at grandma's. The ding-
dong ends up in the people's bedroom waveing knives around and 
attacks the husband. At this point the man and the WOMEN both 
fought back against the attacker and killed him with his own 
knives! The husband was seriously hurt but will survive and his 
wife was lightly wounded and actually put up the fight that 
killed the intruder. 

Note to Palestinian terrorists: 

NEVER attack a women who has given birth to 8 children, she will 
find a way to kick your ass!

Fuck you. You know who the superpower is. We saved China in 
WWII, and Russia is the slums. Don't make anymore excuses.

I've got to hit the sack, but I hope you stick around this board 
awhile.(In my best Sling Blade voice) I like the way you talk. 
Hmmpff. Seriously though, if you are Isreali, your views would 
be appreciated. If not Isreali, still appreciated.

As an outsider who get enough informations I can see your point 
and understand it well. Unfortunately, innocent lives are still 
innocent lives especially the one below 15. I would consider 
above that age, they should have at least some understanding. 
Those little one are totally innocent. Who knows? maybe it is 
their parent that put them in that position to prevent Isreal 
from striking their so call leaders planning or keeping bombs in 
the vacinity.

So are you an Isreali? American?

Well, now the cops are saying that I have to get the scumbags 
name.  He lives on the second floor of the building and 
downstaris is a bakery.  The cunt does not have his name on the 
bell so how do I get this prick's name?  He has no car because 
the fucken mongoloid is a misfit that stands on the roof all day 
throwing rocks at the dogs and hit one in the eye. I wish him 
the worst kind of death.  Wish he had been in the TWIN TOWERS 
and had to jump and die.  I thought about getting the name from 
the landlord and telling him that he would be sued unless he got 
rid of this tenant.  WTF? to do now????

hey mother fucker from the congoo land, I was walking through 
the jungle with a cock in my hand,
I looked up into the tree and what did a see a little nigger 
mother fucker wannabee shittin on me,
I picked up a rock and hit him in the cock,
the little mother fucker did a belly wop!
RACISM IS ALIVE AND WELL IN USA.  VIVA!

a puerto rican and a nigger were about to jump off a high 
building and commit suicide?  Who hit the ground first?

The Puerto Rican because the nigger had to SPRAYPAINT GRAFFITTI 
on his way down......

You are a sad individual.  What's the matter?  Did a black man 
have his way with your mom?  Is that why you are pissed at 
them?  Do they make you feel inferior?  Try taking some group 
therapy classes to work on your self-esteem.

nuke israel and make it a giant ashtray. fucken kikes.

Eat an asshole each morning and take two aspirins. It duz wonder 
for your cholestral.  Eat an asshole as long as it aint jew.

Different name, same asshole.  Get a life Wally.

Didn't the reverend Jesse Jackson refer to New York City 
as "hymie town" several years ago?
If New York is so influenced by Jewish people, why is the New 
York Times so biased against Israel?

Iraq is about to be toast, just a few more days. 

The Agenda of Islam
Endtime Issues No. 84
9 May 2002
Samuele Bacchiocchi, Ph. D.
Retired Professor of Theology, Andrews University
This newsletter is bound to surprise most of our subscribers for 
three reasons: (1)
It follows the previous one (No. 83) within less than a week ; 
(2) It is not written by an
Adventist, and (3) it is more of a comparative analysis of the 
eschatology (vision of the
End) of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, than a strict Biblical 
perspective on current
issues.
What made me decide to post this lecture by Professor Moshe 
Sharon, is simply
the fact he helps us understand what ultimately is at stake in 
the current conflict between
Israel and the Palestinians. We are daily bombarded by news 
about the unfolding conflict
in the Middle East. Unfortunately reporters offers no insight on 
what are the religious
ideological driving forces behind this conflict. They simply 
reports the destruction of
human lives and property, not the driving forces behind such 
senseless destructive
activities.
This lecture by Prof. Moshe Sharon, which was emailed to me by 
one of our
subscribers, caught my attention because it challenges us to 
understand a fundamental
tenet of the Moslem faith, namely, that "Islam divides the world 
into two parts: one part
that is already under the rule of Islam, the other part which 
must come under the rule of
Islam in the future. And this can happen either if the rest of 
the world, which is non-Islamic,
succumbs to Islam or is conquered by Islam." This division of 
the world was reflected in
bin Laden's recent statement. He said, "These events have 
divided the whole world into
two sides. The side of believers and the side of infidels."
During my recent visit to London I was made forcefully made 
aware of the fact that
while Christianity is declining, the Moslem faith is growing, 
not only in England, but
throughout most of Europe and the USA. The stark and sad reality 
is that while Moslems
are infiltrating, penetrating, and successfully propagating 
their faith in the Western world,
no Christian proselytism is allowed in strict Moslem countries. 
In fact the Moslems have
succeeded in wiping out the Christian presence in countries like 
Lybia, Marocco, Tunisia,
Algeria, Saudi Arabia, etc. At one time these countries had 
flourishing Christian
communities. Some of the greatest Christian thinkers like 
Augustine and Tertullian, lived
and worked in North African countries which were predominantly 
Christians. Today the
number of Christians in these countries can be counted with the 
fingers of our hands.
Personally I believe that if the Moslems want to be allowed to 
promote their faith in
Western Christian countries, then their Moslem countries must 
also grant Christians the
same freedom to propagate their faith. But this will never 
happen. Why? Because of the
exclusivistic nature of the Moslem faith which believes in 
bringing the world under the rule
of Islam. I would urge you to read carefully this article. It is 
written by a knowledgeable
scholar who will help you understand what reporters and 
politicians are not telling you.
The reason is that few people understand the theological 
underpinning of the Moslem
religion.
A WORD ABOUT PROFESSOR MOSHE SHARON
Professor Moshe Sharon received his Doctorate in Medieval 
Islamic History from
the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. He has served as an Advisor 
on Arab Affairs to
former Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin as well as the 
Ministry of Defense. He
currently lectures as professor of Islamic History at the Hebrew 
University.

END TIME ISSUES No 84:
THE AGENDA OF ISLAM: A WAR BETWEEN CIVILIZATIONS
by PROFESSOR MOSHE SHARON,
Professor of Islamic History at the Hebrew University, in 
Jerusalem
The war has started a long time ago between two civilizations   
between the
civilization based on the Bible and the civilization based on 
the Koran. And this must be
clear.
There is no fundamental Islam. "Fundamentalism" is a word that 
came from the
heart of the Christian religion. It means faith that goes by the 
word of the Bible.
Fundamental Christianity, or going with the Bible, does not mean 
going around and killing
people. There is no fundamental Islam. There is only Islam full 
stop. The question is how
the Koran is interpreted.
All of a sudden we see that the greatest interpreters of Islam 
are politicians in the
western world. They know better than all the speakers in the 
mosques, all those who
deliver terrible sermons against anything that is either 
Christian or Jewish. These western
politicians know that there is good Islam and bad Islam. They 
know even how to
differentiate between the two, except that none of them know how 
to read a word of
Arabic.
THE LANGUAGE OF ISLAM
You see, so much is covered by politically correct language 
that, in fact, the truth
has been lost. For example, when we speak about Islam in the 
west, we try to use our
own language and terminology. We speak about Islam in terms of 
democracy and
fundamentalism, in terms of parliamentarism and all kinds of 
terms, which we take from our
own dictionary. One of my professors and one of the greatest 
orientalists in the world
says that using western culture to explain Islam is like 
describing a cricket game by a
reporter in baseball terms. We cannot use for one culture or 
civilization the language of
another. For Islam, you've got to use the language of Islam.
DRIVING PRINCIPLES OF ISLAM
Let me explain the principles that are driving the religion of 
Islam. Of course, every
Moslem has to acknowledge the fact that there is only one God. 
But it's not enough to say
that there is only one God. A Moslem has to acknowledge the fact 
that there is one God
and Mohamed is his prophet. These are the fundamentals of the 
religion that without them,
one cannot be a Moslem.
But beyond that, Islam is a civilization. It is a religion that 
gave first and foremost a
wide and unique legal system that engulfs the individual, 
society and nations with rules of
behavior. If you are Moslem, you have to behave according to the 
rules of Islam which
are set down in the Koran and which are very different than the 
teachings of the Bible.
THE BIBLE
Let me explain the difference. The Bible is the creation of the 
spirit of a nation over
a very, very long period, if we talk from the point of view of 
the scholar, and let me remain
scholarly. But there is one thing that is important in the 
Bible. It leads to salvation. It leads
to salvation in two ways.
In Judaism, it leads to national salvation    not just a nation 
that wants to have a
state, but a nation that wants to serve God. That's the idea 
behind the Hebrew text of the Bible.

The New Testament that took the Hebrew Bible moves us toward 
personal salvation. So we have got these two kinds of salvation 
which, from time to time, meet each other. But the key word is 
salvation. Personal salvation means that each individual

is looked after by God, Himself, who leads a person through His 
word to salvation. This is
the idea in the Bible, whether we are talking about the Old or 
the New Testament. All of
the laws in the Bible, even to the minutest ones, are, in fact 
directed toward this fact of
salvation.
Secondly, there is another point in the Bible, which is highly 
important. This is the
idea that man was created in the image of God. Therefore, you 
don't just walk around and
obliterate the image of God. Many people, of course, used 
Biblical rules and turned them
upside down. History has seen a lot of massacres in the name of 
God and in the name of
Jesus. But as religions, both Judaism and Christianity in their 
fundamentals speak about
honoring the image of God and the hope of salvation. These are 
the two basic
fundamentals.
THE ESSENCE OF ISLAM
Now let's move to the essence of Islam. Islam was born with the 
idea that it
should rule the world. Let's look, then, at the difference 
between these three religions.
Judaism speaks about national salvation    namely that at the 
end of the story, when the
world becomes a better place, Israel will be in its own land, 
ruled by its own king and
serving God. Christianity speaks about the idea that every 
single person in the world can
be saved from his sins, while Islam speaks about ruling the 
world. I can quote here in
Arabic, but there is no point in quoting Arabic, so let me quote 
a verse in English. "Allah
sent Mohammed with the true religion so that it should rule over 
all the religions."
The idea, then, is not that the whole world will become a Moslem 
world at this time,
but that the whole world will be subdued under the rule of 
Islam. When the Islamic empire
was established in 634 AD, within seven years (640) the core of 
the empire was created.
The rules that were taken from the Koran and from the tradition 
that was ascribed to the
prophet Mohammed, were translated into a real legal system. Jews 
and Christians could
live under Islam provided they paid poll tax and accepted 
Islamic superiority. Of course,
they had to be humiliated. And Jews and Christians living under 
Islam are humiliated to
this very day.
Mohammed held that all the Biblical prophets were Moslems. 
Mohammed did
accept the existence of all the Biblical prophets before him. 
However he also said that all
these prophets were Moslems. Abraham was a Moslem. In fact, Adam 
himself was the
first Moslem. Isaac and Jacob and David and Solomon and Moses 
and Jesus were all
Moslems, and all of them had writings similar to the Koran. 
Therefore, world history is
Islamic history because all the heroes of history were Moslems.
Furthermore, Moslems accept the fact that each of these prophets 
brought with him
some kind of a revelation. Moses, brought the Taurat, which is 
the Torah, and Jesus
brought the Ingeel, which is the Evangelion or Gospel - namely 
the New Testament.
THE BIBLE VERSUS THE KORAN
Why then is the Bible not similar to the Koran? Mohamed explains 
that the Jews
and Christians forged their books. Had they not been changed and 
forged, they would
have been identical to the Koran. But because Christians and 
Jews do have some truth,
Islam concedes that they cannot be completely destroyed by war 
[for now].
Nevertheless, the laws a very clear    Jews and Christians have 
no rights
whatsoever to independent existence. They can live under Islamic 
rule provided they
keep to the rules that Islam promulgates for them.

ISLAMIC RULE AND THE JIHAD
What happens if Jews and Christians don't want to live under the 
rules of Islam?
Then Islam has to fight them and this fighting is called Jihad. 
Jihad means war against
those people who don't want to accept the Islamic superior rule. 
That's jihad. They may
be Jews; they may be Christians; they may be Polytheists. But 
since we don't have too
many Polytheists left, at least not in the Middle East - their 
war is against the Jews and
Christians.
A few days ago, I received a pamphlet that was distributed in 
the world by bin
Laden. He calls for jihad against America as the leader of the 
Christian world, not because
America is the supporter of Israel, but because Americans are 
desecrating Arabia with their
filthy feet. There are Americans in Arabia were no Christians 
should be. In this pamphlet
there is not a single word about Israel. Only that Americans are 
desecrating the home of
the prophet.
TWO HOUSES
The Koran sees the world as divided into two - one part which 
has come under
Islamic rule and one part which is supposed to come under 
Islamic rule in the future. There
is a division of the world which is very clear. Every single 
person who starts studying
Islam knows it.
The world is described as Dar al-Islam (the house of Islam) - 
that's the place
where Islam rules - and the other part which is called Dar al-
Harb - the house of war. Not
the "house of non-Muslims," but the "house of war." It is this 
house of war which as to be,
at the end of time, conquered. The world will continue to be in 
the house of war until it
comes under Islamic rule.
This is the norm. Why? Because Allah says it's so in the Koran. 
God has sent
Mohammed with the true religion in order that the truth will 
overcome all other religions.
ISLAMIC LAW
Within the Islamic vision of this world, there are rules that 
govern the lives of the
Moslems themselves, and these rules are very strict. In 
fundamentals, there are no
differences between schools of law. However, there are four 
streams of factions within
Islam with differences between them concerning the minutiae of 
the laws. All over the
Islamic world, countries have favored one or another of these 
schools of laws.
The strictest school of law is called Hanbali, mainly coming out 
of Saudi Arabia.
There are no games there, no playing around with the meanings of 
words. If the Koran
speaks about war, then it's war.
There are various perspectives in Islam with different 
interpretations over the
centuries. There were good people that were very enlightened in 
Islam that tried to
understand things differently. They even brought traditions from 
the mouth of the prophet
that women and children should not be killed in war.
These more liberal streams do exist, but there is one thing that 
is very important
for us to remember. The Hanbali school of law is extremely 
strict, and today this is the
school that is behind most of the terrorist powers. Even if we 
talk about the existence of
other schools of Islamic law, when we're talking about fighting 
against the Jews, or fighting
against the Christian world led by America, it is the Hanbali 
school of law that is being
followed.

ISLAM AND TERRITORY
This civilization created one very important, fundamental rule 
about territory. Any
territory that comes under Islamic rule cannot be de-Islamized. 
Even if at one time or
another, the [non-Moslem] enemy takes over the territory that 
was under Islamic rule, it is
considered to be perpetually Islamic. This is why whenever you 
hear about the
Arab/Israeli conflict, you hear: territory, territory, 
territory. There are other aspects to the
conflict, but territory is highly important.
The Christian civilization has not only been seen as a religious 
opponent, but as a dam
stopping Islam from achieving its final goal for which it was 
created.
Islam was created to be the army of God, the army of Allah. 
Every single Moslem is a
soldier in this army. Every single Moslem that dies in fighting 
for the spread of Islam is a
shaheed (martyr) no matter how he dies, because - and this is 
very important    this is
an eternal word between the two civilizations. It's not a war 
that stops. This was is there
because it was created by Allah. Islam must be the ruler. This 
is a war that will not end.
ISLAM AND PEACE
Peace in Islam can exist only within the Islamic world; peace 
can only be between
Moslem and Moslem. With the non-Moslem world or non-Moslem 
opponents, there can be
only one solution    a cease fire until Moslems can gain more 
power. It is an eternal war
until the end of days. Peace can only come when the Islamic side 
wins.
The two civilizations can only have periods of cease-fires. And 
this idea of ceasefire
is based on a very important historical precedent, which, 
incidentally, Yasser Arafat
referred to when he spoke in Johannesburg after he signed the 
Oslo agreement with
Israel. Let me remind you that the document speaks of peace   
you wouldn't believe
what you are reading! You would think that you were reading some 
science-fiction piece. I
mean when you read it, you can't believe that this was signed by 
Israelis who are
actually acquainted with Islamic policies and civilization.
A few weeks after the Oslo agreement was signed, Arafat went to 
Johannesburg,
and in a mosque there he made a speech in which he apologized, 
saying, "Do you think I
signed something with the Jews which is contrary to the rules of 
Islam?" (I have obtained
a copy of Arafat's recorded speech so I heard it from his own 
mouth.) Arafat continued,
"That's not so. I'm doing exactly what the prophet Mohammed did."
Whatever the prophet is supposed to have done becomes a 
precedent. What
Arafat was saying was, "Remember the story of Hodaybiya." The 
prophet had made an
agreement there with the tribe of Kuraish for 10 years. But then 
he trained 10,000 soldiers
and within two years marched on their city of Mecca. He, of 
course, found some kind of
pretext.
Thus, in Islamic jurisdiction, it became a legal precedent which 
states that you are
only allowed to make peace for a maximum of 10 years. Secondly, 
at the first instance that
you are able, you must renew the jihad [thus breaking 
the "peace" agreement].
In Israel, it has taken over 50 years in this country for our 
people to understand
that they cannot speak about [permanent] peace with Moslems. It 
will take another 50
years for the western world to understand that they have got a 
state of war with the
Islamic civilization that is virile and strong. This should be 
understood: When we talk
about war and peace, we are not talking in Belgium, French, 
English, or German terms. We
are talking about war and peace in Islamic terms.

CEASE-FIRE AS A TACTICAL CHOICE
What makes Islam accept cease-fire? Only one thing: when the 
enemy is too
strong. It is a tactical choice. Sometimes, he may have to agree 
to a cease-fire in the most
humiliating conditions. It's allowed because Mohammed accepted a 
cease-fire under
humiliating conditions. That's what Arafat said to them in 
Johannesburg.
When western policy makers hear these things, they answer, "What 
are you
talking about? You are in the Middle Ages. You don't understand 
the mechanisms of
politics." Which mechanisms of politics? There are no mechanisms 
of politics where power
is. And I want to tell you one thing: we haven't seen the end of 
it, because the minute a
radical Moslem power has atomic, chemical or biological weapons, 
they will use it. I have
no doubt about that.
Now, since we face war and we know that we cannot get more than 
a temporary
cease-fire, one has to ask himself what is the major component 
of an Israeli/Arab ceasefire.
It is that the Islamic side is weak and the Israeli's side is 
strong. The relations
between Israel and the Arab world in the last 50 years since the 
establishment of our
State have been based only on this idea, the deterrent power.
WHEREVER YOU HAVE ISLAM, YOU WILL HAVE WAR
The reason that we have what we have in Yugoslavia and other 
places is
because Islam succeeded into entering these countries. Wherever 
you have Islam, you
will have war. It grows out of the attitude of Islamic 
civilization. What are the poor people
in the Philippines being killed for? What's happening between 
Pakistan and India?
ISLAMIC WAR BY INFILTRATION
Furthermore, there is another fact that must be remembered. The 
Islamic world has
not only the attitude of open war, but also the method of war by 
infiltration. One of the
things which the western world is not paying enough attention to 
is the tremendous
growth of Islamic power in the western world. What happened in 
America and the Twin
Towers is not something that came from the outside. And if 
America doesn't wake up, one
day the Americans will find themselves in a chemical war and 
most likely in an atomic
war   inside the U.S.
END OF DAYS
It is highly important to understand how a civilization sees the 
end of days. In
Christianity and in Judaism, we know exactly what is the vision 
of the end of days.
In Judaism, it is going to be as in Isaiah    peace between 
nations, not just one
nation, but between all nations. People will not have any more 
need for weapons and
nature will be changed    a beautiful end of days and the 
kingdom of God on earth.
Christianity goes as far as Revelation to see a day that Satan 
himself is
obliterated. There are no more powers of evil. That's the vision.
I'm speaking now as a historian. I try to understand how Islam 
sees the end of
days. In the end of days, Islam sees a world that is totally 
Moslem, completely Moslem
under the rule of Islam. Complete and final victory. Christians 
will not exist, because
according to many Islamic traditions, the Moslems who are in 
hell will have to be replaced
by somebody and they'll be replaced by the Christians.

The Jews will no longer exist, because before the coming of the 
end of days,
there is going to be a war against the Jews where all Jews 
should be killed. I'm quoting
now from the heart of Islamic tradition, from the books that are 
read by every child in
school. The Jews will all be killed. They'll be running away and 
they'll be hiding behind
trees and rocks, and on that day Allah will give mouths to the 
rocks and trees and they will
say, "Oh Moslem come here, there is a Jew behind me, kill him." 
Without this, the end of
days cannot come. This is a fundamental of Islam.
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO END THIS DANCE OF WAR?
The question which we in Israel are asking ourselves is what 
will happen to our
country? Is there a possibility to end this dance of war. The 
answer is, "No. Not in the
foreseeable future." What we can do is reach a situation where 
for a few years we may
have relative quiet.
But for Islam, the establishment of the state of Israel was a 
reverse of Islamic
history. First, Islamic territory was taken away from Islam by 
Jews. You know by now
that this can never be accepted, not even one meter. So everyone 
who thinks Tel Aviv is
safe is making a grave mistake. Territory, which at one time was 
dominated by Islamic
rule, now has become non-Moslem. Non-Moslems are independent of 
Islamic rule; Jews
have created their own independent state. It is anathema.
And (this is the worse) Israel, a non-Moslem state, is ruling 
over Moslems. It is
unthinkable that non-Moslems should rule over Moslems.
I believe that Western civilization should hold together and 
support each other.
Whether this will happen or not, I don't know. Israel finds 
itself on the front lines of this
war. It needs the help of its sister civilization. It needs the 
help of America and Europe. It
needs the help of the Christian world. One thing I am sure 
about, this help can be given
by individual Christians who see this as the road to salvation.
BACCHIOCCHI'S FINAL COMMENT
Prof. Moshe Sharon's lecture reveals his Jewish concerns, 
especially over the
perennial threat posed by the Moslem's vision of the End to the 
survival of Israel. What I
found helpful in his lecture is the simple and clear way in 
which Sharon explains the
difference between the Moslem vision of the End, and that of 
Judaism and Christianity.
While both Judaism and Christianity envision the End as a new 
world where
peace prevails among the nations and evil is eradicated, Islam 
sees the End as a world
totally dominated and ruled by Moslems. The latter believe that 
eventually they will
succeed in eradicating the presence of Christian, Jews, and all 
other kinds of "infidels"
from the face of the earth.
Frankly, I find this exclusivistic, intolerant, and arrogant 
eschatological Moslem
vision of the End, frightening, to say the least. Such a vision 
can drive Moslem nations
that are developing biological, chemical, or nuclear weapons, 
like Libya or Iraq, to use
them in order to advance the cause of Islam and hasten the 
establishment of the Moslem
Kingdom upon this earth. What all of this means is that what the 
Moslems are ultimately
fighting for, is not merely for more territory for the 
Palestinians in the Middle East, but for a
total control of the territory of this planet.
It is imperative for political leaders and Christians to 
understand that the agenda of
Islam extends beyond Palestine, to embrace the whole world. The 
Christian response to
the Moslem agenda is to find creative ways to reach the Moslems 
with the Good News of
the Gospel. We need to help our Moslem friends understand and 
experience the Power
of the Gospel, which is personal peace with God in this present 
life, and global eternal
peace in the world to come. The latter peace is achieved , not 
by the domination of any
particular nation, but by the establishment of the Kingdom of 
God after the eradication of
all forms of evil.

If you retarded, mentally deficient, dimented bastards calling 
yourself palastinian, and or their supporters dont want to get 
killed .... Move the phuck away from the Hamas leaders, and 
better yet - move your sorry freakin arses to Saudi Arabi, 
Jordan, Egypt ......

Oh what .. they dont want you squatter cockroaches either???  
Wonder why.

F O and die  Palastinian colostomy bagz

I like your style.  Ilike your dick in my asshole.  Please send 
meflowers for the "daisy" chain we had with that faggot CC.

Eagle Eye, why are you ignoring all of my phone calls to yew? I 
want a good ass chewin' munchin eaten fest and then I will give 
you some K Y JELLY to fuck me in the asshole again.  Your cock 
is so big and thick and masterful.  Thanks for coming to canada 
and throwing me a mercy fuck. Love, Your Girlfriend, CC

Thousands in Gaza celebrate Jerusalem attack    
 
    By Shahdi al-Kashif 
GAZA, July 31 (Reuters) - About 10,000 Palestinians handed 
out sweets, sang songs and chanted anti-Israeli slogans as they 
marched through Gaza city on Wednesday to celebrate the bombing 
that killed seven people at Jerusalem's Hebrew University. 

.................AND THEN THIS BOMBSHELL..............>>>>

Hamas spokesman Abdel Aziz Rantisi made it quite clear today. He 
said that terrorist attacks will continue until *ALL JEWS LEAVE 
ISRAEL*. Rantisi made the remarks while claiming responsibility 
on behalf of Hamas for the slaughter of seven more people in 
Jerusalem this afternoon.

WHOOP, THERE IT IS! But where is the E.U. & U.N. to denounce 
such terrorism? Nothing.  FUCK A BUNCH OF BOTH OF 'EM! But 
Israel kills the leader of Hamas (and 9 of his dead anyway kids) 
and they get reamed by Bush, the E.U. and the U.N. Lets see if I 
got this straight. Isreal kills the leader of a terrorist 
organization (and gets ripped on). Hamas kills innocent college 
kids, people riding buses to work and school, people having the 
audacity of eating out or shopping (and gets a happy go lucky 
visit from Jesse Jackson). WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS 
PICTURE!?!!
Its time the U.S.A. realises the Pali's and Israeli's will NEVER 
live on the same land in peace. Its a waste of time to try and 
our illustrious leaders should have their minds on counteracting 
our own terrorist problems revealed by Sept. 11 and let the 
Israeli's drive the Gaza strip Pali's INTO THE SEA and West Bank 
Pali's back into Jordan. Its inevitable, many times a fistfight 
is going to happen, its just a matter of when. Survival of the 
fittest. Its like keeping two little hell raiser kids who don't 
get along from fighting. You step in and stop it time and time 
again. They keep taking little shots at each other all the time. 
Eventually, they will need to duke it out and settle the matter.

I agree completely.
The Palestinians have to realize that they are not going to get 
any part of jerusalem in any deal.
The west bank should be there only choice.
They should feel lucky they are getting it.

As a matter of fact, I'd like to suck the cum out of your hairy 
nuts.  I'm goofy like that...he he he

Any above posts except for the emediate one before this post 
are all dickless impersonators.

I fucked your sister with my hockey stick last night.
She stunk !
I broke her in for you.

I hate niggers and jews, but their big cocks i like alot. I hope 
we can all make love one day...peace on earth

What do you people like best about me and the things i say. I 
like me, do you ???

Is anyone involved in the Hector the dog poisening so bold as to 
actually go up to th