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From: DON'T TREAD ON ME
To: om/cf
Subject: 18 Captured ????????
Date: Fri Mar 22 01:08:15 2002

Message:
Yeah.   More I think about it, the more it sounds like more 
Muslim jive. I read the same thing, i.e. that the capture of 
these guys was the reason Anaconda came top an end.  That 
doesn't really make sense.  I mean, Rumsfeld had taken some heat 
for predicting that it would end by that weekend after it 
started and it didn't.  It kept going for about 12 days.  After 
12 days, I can believe that the thing was really over. Also, 
that guy that fell out of the helicopter was dragged away and 
executed.  Why would they hold prisoner 18 guys ?  Not their 
style, is it ?  Finally, even if they were holding some of our 
guys, I don't think it's ever been US policy to bring our 
military operations to a grinding halt because some guys get 
captured. Having guys taken prisoner is as much a part of war as 
having soldiers get killed. They knew that it was possible some 
guys would get captured. I just can't believe that they would 
plan and then execute an operation, only to halt it because 
something happens which is not unexpected.

By the way, Ramses, or whatever your name is, in my humble 
opinion, Israel has every right to defend itself and its land 
from terrorists. If you don't like the inconvenience of waiting, 
tell some of your Palestinian buddies to  stop blowing 
themselves up.

From: SISTER
To: BASSAM
Date: Fri Mar 22 01:43:00 2002

Message:
WELL SORRY BUT I DONT THINK YOU WERE EVER A MUSLIM LOL AND WHATS 
THAT RUBBISH THAT THEY TIED YOU UP BY YOUR WRISTS AND TORTUED 
YOU LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL LISTEN I THINK YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING 
JUST A BIT TO MUCH AMERICAN MOVIES DONT YOU THINK IF YOU WANT TO 
BELEIVE JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD THEN GO AHEAD THATS YOUR PROBLEM 
AND AS FOR SAYING THE QURAN IS EVIL TELL ME WHICH PART BECAUSE 
IM SORRY TO SAY THE QURAN AND BIBLE IS VERY SIMILAR UNTIL WHERE 
IT STARTS SAYING THAT JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD . THE QURAN DOES 
NOT STATE ANYTHING EVIL IN IT I THINK YOUR JUST SOME IDIOT OUT 
TO MAKE ISLAM LOOK BAD AND ILL TELL YOU NOW IF THERE WAS SOME 
SLIGHT CHANCE THAT YOU WERE A MUSLIM THEN IF YOU WANT TO FOLLOW 
THE KUFFARS PATH THEN THATS ON YOUR HEAD NOT ANY ONE ELSES YOU 
ARE THE FIRST PERSON I HAVE HEARD EVER SAY THIS RUBBISH I HAVE 
SO MANY PEOPLE I KNOW THAT HAVE EMBRACED ISLAM (ALHUMDULILLAH)
AND NEVER LOOKED BACK ISLAM IS NOT EVIL AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK 
ABOUT RELIGIONS BEING SICK THEN WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE PRIESTS 
THAT RAPE LITTLE BOYS OR THE NUNS THAT USE TO BEAT THE CHILDREN 
I THINK THATS PRETTY SICK DONT YOU A PRIEST IS SUPPOSE TO DEVOTE 
HIS HOLE LIFE TO GOD AND YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO BE ABLE TO TRUST 
THESE PRIESTS MORE THAN YOU CAN TRUST YOUR OWN FAMILY AND YET 
LOOK WHAT SOME OF THESE FAKES DO SO PLEASE DONT GIVE ME THAT 
CRAP ISLAM IS EVIL AND ISLAM IS SICK BUT LIKE I SAID BEFORE I 
DONT BELEIVE YOU WHERE EVER A MUSLIM OH AND AGAIN PLEASE LAY OFF 
THE AMERICAN MOVIES THEY ARE JUST PRETEND REMEMBER.

From: Your Sponsor from Ramallah
To:
Date: Fri Mar 22 02:31:54 2002

Message:
YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
TRY:  "ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM":
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YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
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WHILE YOUR HEAD IS STILL UP IN THE AIR!!
(practice in your own livingroom: your family will love it!)


YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
TRY:  "ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM":
YOUR FEET WILL BE TOUCHING THE GROUND 
WHILE YOUR HEAD IS STILL UP IN THE AIR!!
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YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
TRY:  "ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM":
YOUR FEET WILL BE TOUCHING THE GROUND 
WHILE YOUR HEAD IS STILL UP IN THE AIR!!
(practice in your own livingroom: your family will love it!)


YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
TRY:  "ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM":
YOUR FEET WILL BE TOUCHING THE GROUND 
WHILE YOUR HEAD IS STILL UP IN THE AIR!!
(practice in your own livingroom: your family will love it!)


YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
TRY:  "ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM":
YOUR FEET WILL BE TOUCHING THE GROUND 
WHILE YOUR HEAD IS STILL UP IN THE AIR!!
(practice in your own livingroom: your family will love it!)


YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
TRY:  "ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM":
YOUR FEET WILL BE TOUCHING THE GROUND 
WHILE YOUR HEAD IS STILL UP IN THE AIR!!
(practice in your own livingroom: your family will love it!)


YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
TRY:  "ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM":
YOUR FEET WILL BE TOUCHING THE GROUND 
WHILE YOUR HEAD IS STILL UP IN THE AIR!!
(practice in your own livingroom: your family will love it!)


YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
TRY:  "ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM":
YOUR FEET WILL BE TOUCHING THE GROUND 
WHILE YOUR HEAD IS STILL UP IN THE AIR!!
(practice in your own livingroom: your family will love it!)


YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
TRY:  "ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM":
YOUR FEET WILL BE TOUCHING THE GROUND 
WHILE YOUR HEAD IS STILL UP IN THE AIR!!
(practice in your own livingroom: your family will love it!)




YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
TRY:  "ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM":
YOUR FEET WILL BE TOUCHING THE GROUND 
WHILE YOUR HEAD IS STILL UP IN THE AIR!!
(practice in your own livingroom: your family will love it!)


YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
TRY:  "ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM":
YOUR FEET WILL BE TOUCHING THE GROUND 
WHILE YOUR HEAD IS STILL UP IN THE AIR!!
(practice in your own livingroom: your family will love it!)


YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
TRY:  "ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM":
YOUR FEET WILL BE TOUCHING THE GROUND 
WHILE YOUR HEAD IS STILL UP IN THE AIR!!
(practice in your own livingroom: your family will love it!)


YOU LIKE BUNGEE-JUMPING?
TRY:  "ISLAMIC MARTYRDOM":
YOUR FEET WILL BE TOUCHING THE GROUND 
WHILE YOUR HEAD IS STILL UP IN THE AIR!!
(practice in your own livingroom: your family will love it!)









From: girlie girl
To: sister
Date: Fri Mar 22 03:24:34 2002

Message:
Why are you such a bitch? Is it against your religion to take a 
Midol?    

From:
To:
Subject: THE PROOF THAT ISLAM IS EVIL!!!
Date: Fri Mar 22 03:21:51 2002

Message:
FROM THE "HOLY" QU'RAN:


(al-Ma'idah 5:14) And with those who say: "Lo! we are 
Christians", we made a covenant, but they forgot a part of that 
whereof they were admonished. Therefore We have stirred up 
enmity and hatred among them till the Day of Resurrection, when 
Allah will inform them of their handiwork. (!!!!)


(al-Ma'idah 5:33)
The only reward for those who make war upon Allah and His 
Messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that 
they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet 
on alternative sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the 
land. Such will be their degradation in the world and in the 
Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom. (!!!!)


(al-Ma'idah 5:51) O ye who believe! Take not the Jws and 
Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He 
among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! 
Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. (!!!!)


(al-Ma'idah 5:73) They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is 
the third of three; when there is no God save the one God. If 
they desist not from saying so a painful doom will fall on those 
of them who disbelieve. (!!!!)


ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION OF PEACE. THE WORD MEANS: SUBMISSION
MOHAMMED WAS THE FIRST TERRORIST! THE QU'RAN SOWS HATRED!!!!



From: franky
To: fact finder
Date: Fri Mar 22 05:58:41 2002

Message:
i do agree i hate Saddam Hussain and he should be punished but i 
strongly feel bin laden and afghanistan are being attacked over 
something they didnt do.
I think if bin laden did attack the world trade centre then 
obviously he should be punished. 
Im still not convinced that it was bin laden i mean check this 
PLEASE check out these sites:

http://11september.20m.com/latest_news/fake_video.htm
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/end_justifies_means.html

thanks  

 

From: Franky
To: Merlyn
Date: Fri Mar 22 09:36:22 2002

Message:
WAKE THE FUCK UP! come on Franky. What will it take? They cut 
off your hands & tell you not to steal, but do they teach you 
not to steal? NO! The Qu'ran is a BOOK OF BIGOTRY AND SATANIC 
CULT WORSHIP! No you cannot drink alcohol, unless of corse you 
die in the name of ALLAH(SATAN) Hipocrytiacl Mmmmmmm???? GO 
figure! 
  OSAMA ADMITTED IT. He jumped for joy and exclaimed about how 
he masterminded the half ass attack. GOT BRAINS?? 

From: Your Sponsor
To: Jesus and all
Date: Fri Mar 22 09:52:16 2002

Message:
Let us prune the tree of language
Of its dead fruit
Let us melt up the cliche's
Into molten metal;
Fashion weapons that will scald and flay,
Let us curb this eternal humour
And become witty 
                                 Osbert Sitwell
                                 U.K. 1892-1969

Let us prune the tree of language
Of its dead fruit
Let us melt up the cliche's
Into molten metal;
Fashion weapons that will scald and flay,
Let us curb this eternal humour
And become witty 
                                 Osbert Sitwell
                                 U.K. 1892-1969


Let us prune the tree of language
Of its dead fruit
Let us melt up the cliche's
Into molten metal;
Fashion weapons that will scald and flay,
Let us curb this eternal humour
And become witty 
                                 Osbert Sitwell
                                 U.K. 1892-1969

Let us prune the tree of language
Of its dead fruit
Let us melt up the cliche's
Into molten metal;
Fashion weapons that will scald and flay,
Let us curb this eternal humour
And become witty 
                                 Osbert Sitwell
                                 U.K. 1892-1969


From: Jesus
To: sponsor
Date: Fri Mar 22 11:00:48 2002

Message:
Though I walk in the valley of death I fear no evil
and I am guessing but U.K.Citizen?  is that you doing all this 
sponsor posting? 

From: Your Sponsor
To:
Date: Fri Mar 22 12:32:15 2002

Message:
Dear Jesus; Thou art so wrong!

From: God
To: sponsor
Date: Fri Mar 22 13:16:07 2002

Message:
Cut the cheeze dude! cill already!

From: Justice
To:
Subject: These people should be shot
Date: Fri Mar 22 13:39:33 2002

Message:
Twenty-three people have been arrested for filing false death 
certificates claiming they lost family members in the World 
Trade Center attacks, authorities said. 

The joint announcement from the Manhattan district attorney, the 
New York attorney general and the New York police commissioner 
on Thursday said 15 of those charged have already collected a 
total of $760,465 in relief funds. Another eight defendants were 
arrested before they could cash in on their fraudulent claims.

From: blarg
To: blarg
Subject: blarg
Date: Fri Mar 22 13:55:32 2002

Message:
blarg

From: Facts Finder
To: Sister
Date: Fri Mar 22 19:34:00 2002

Message:
Jesus is God, the son, coming in as a human form from birth 
through a virgin, bless with the Holy Spirit, perform miracle 
that no other prophet or human being can do, was crucified, and 
raise from the dead and will come to give judgement on the last 
day.

So tell me, which prophet is more special than Jesus. Even Moses 
has done so much God's miracle but he has to ask from GOD. Jesus 
can just do it himself. Why is Jesus coming to judge us and not 
the other Prophet.

The rest of the explanation you can look up my previous post. I 
guess you just throw it into your rubbish bin.

What I don't understand is why this man Jesus is so powerful and 
have taught great crowd but you cannot find his teaching in the 
Qu'ran but he mentioned all the above except for the way he died

And there you go again calling the non-believers kuffars, with 
these sort of remark you will definitely get people calling you 
name too.

About those priests and nun, don't forget they are human and 
Satan is always around. These people, although they are priests 
and nuns are tempted by Satan and lose their faith in GOD.

No only the Catholic priests and nun, you get these people from 
all kind religions. In my coutry there was this muslim religios 
teacher who was charge for molesting his student too. And your 
phrase LOOK WHAT SOME OF THESE FAKES DO. That right you have 
answer yourself.

Regarding my previous post about muslim women getting up by the 
spouse and it is allowed in muslim. Is it true?

Divorce make simple, is it true? In my country, muslims has the 
biggest divorce rate. Most of them got married too young.

And about Mohammed having 13 wife including Aisha the 6 years 
old. Can you explain why he has to marry so many and so young. 
It is good if you can explain as what your religion teaches you 
so that we can understand too.

It the present situation that make islam look evil. As I say 
look at, Malaysia, Kuwait, Bahrain they are peaceful except for 
some protester. So you call their leaders Kuffars too.

It is good that you keep your faith strong, always find peace in 
your mind, pray for the kuffars, not curse them, believe in your 
God as I believe in mine, they are the same. Trust me and on 
your last day, Jesus will come and judge you.

Peace be upon you.




From: Facts Finders
To: Sister
Date: Fri Mar 22 20:47:26 2002

Message:
Regarding my previous post about muslim women getting up by the 
spouse and it is allowed in muslim. Is it true?

Sorry miss a word
"women getting beat up"

From: Facts Finders
To: Franky
Date: Fri Mar 22 20:55:23 2002

Message:
Yes I have seen this site, before, some others like you refer us 
to those site, and I believe, someone have reply to this. I am 
in not posittion to reply you on this. I don't know about 
American politic and policy, yes I remember Rambo was fighting 
side by side with the Taliban. Yes I also know that fund has 
also been given for them to improve themselves but unfortunately 
it is not so. So now America have to think twice if they want to 
help another Muslims nation. Let the rich muslims do the 
sponsor? and America will be blame for not helping.

As for bin laden video, the video was handed by an Arab news 
group, I think it was Al Jazeera or something. Anyway, I have 
seen the video too. If it is fake than Hollywood should have won 
an academy for the most realistic video. Who is the actor who 
acted as bin laden.

Anyway nice to hear from you again. Take care

From: A disgusted Patriot
To: SISTER
Subject: Fool
Date: Fri Mar 22 23:31:55 2002

Message:
I am a patriot of America, the greatest country in the world and 
I am utterly disguested that you would say Islam is not Evil. By 
all means its evil and corrupt (don't get me wrong so is 
catholism) The origin of Islam is peace but after it was 
CONQURED! keyword being CONQURED! mahammed or whatever that 
barbarian name was, was a evil decieveing man who convinced the 
arabs that he was the son of god (which is false by all means) I 
laugh every time a muslim praises that Evil, Twisted, Corrupt 
barbarian who CLAIMED to be a man. Jihad my butt! After the 
arabs kicked the crusaders out of the holy land ISREAL (in case 
you didn't know you half-wit) The muslims became so blood 
thirsty you can't even begin to imagine. But they claimed a 
jihad to make it look like they were good people. HA! the 
muslims are half right, they are an oppresed people. But thats 
because there so agressive and mean we have to opress them with 
US troops. I hate when people talk from there morales and not 
there sense. God didn't come to these people and say KILL IN MY 
NAME! So when they claim a jihad they are saying we have a 
permit to kill. Fuck Islam And There Fucked Up Teachings!

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To:
Date: Sat Mar 23 02:32:51 2002

Message:
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To:
Date: Sat Mar 23 02:43:09 2002

Message:
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From: om/cf
To: Sponsor
Date: Sat Mar 23 08:05:41 2002

Message:
What about Sientology. Seems like a natural. And Heavens Gate 
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From: om/cf
To: Dont Tread On Me
Subject: Pakistan
Date: Sat Mar 23 10:34:26 2002

Message:
Did you hear about the order removing all non-essential 
diplomatic personnel from Pakistan? A little too late for a 
mother and daughter.

Whats your take on this happening so late in the game? For the 
safety of American citizens in Pakistan...or....has Musharaf 
issued the U.S. a permit to hunt talibastards and al-Queerda in 
the Pakistan National Wildlife Preserve aka. Pakistan's frontier 
border area?

From: allatti2d
To: om/cf, et al.
Subject: military?
Date: Sat Mar 23 11:20:26 2002

Message:
OM/CF, I heard about that order too, to remove non-essential 
personnel from Pakistan (wasn't it the Pakistani borders?  Going 
on bad memory of radio news... I haven't read the news yet this 
morning).  When I first heard that, my first thought was, 'uh 
oh, something is UP.'  I don't believe it is a retreat at all.  
I think it's either a diplomatic move -- more likely something 
else DISGUISED as a diplomatic move -- or it's an action to 
prepare for something much bigger and keeping non-essential 
military safe.  It's possible that they have foreign 
intelligence about something nasty in the works by Pakistan or 
someone else over there, also.  Like I said, I haven't read the 
news yet.

Have you heard what other countries (allies) are doing with 
their non-essential personnel?  It isn't only Americans, is it?

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From: allatti2d
To: My Fellow Americans
Subject: George Junior
Date: Sat Mar 23 11:42:55 2002

Message:
I love America and all that we stand for.  I'm going to exercise 
my free speech now and say that I just wanna smack George Jr. 
upside the head sometimes.  What a dim bulb.  I thank God every 
day that he surrounds himself with intelligent people!  (I'm 
also glad he got himself a new speech writer after 9/11.)  I was 
watching CNN or one of the other stations the other night, and 
Junior Bush was sitting at a dinner table and made some wrong 
statement -- I don't remember now what it was that he said.  The 
news anchor said, "What the President MEANT to say was..."

Like I said, thank God that man is surrounded by more 
intelligent people, or we'd be in a heck of a lot of trouble!

My political views lean a little more toward the left, a little 
more liberal, a little more democratic (hell, we LIVE in a 
democracy!), but I don't align myself with any political party 
because of the extremists who ruin it all (can anyone say RUSH 
LIMBAUGH??).  Our government isn't perfect by any means, but we 
have the best damn system in the world, and I hope some others 
will strive toward exerting their freedoms and us democratic 
countries as an example.  What is wrong with that??

From: allatti2d
To:
Subject: oops...
Date: Sat Mar 23 11:52:41 2002

Message:
Second-to-last sentence, corrected version:

...I hope some others will strive toward exerting their freedoms 
and USE democratic countries as an example.

From: Justice USA
To: Hi Eagle, Allitti, etc.
Subject: Kill the Fuckers
Date: Sat Mar 23 12:49:03 2002

Message:
Round up all the fucks and slit their throats already.  
GODDAMN!  What is the purpose of the war if we are not winning?  
FUCK.  

From: only a human being
To: every sleeping person
Subject: just read itt
Date: Sat Mar 23 12:43:07 2002

Message:
hello every body,

let me tell u all that the time is still there so get out of the 
world full of sins and a world that is made up of coward people 
like americans who threw bombs on innocent people and when there 
soldier are killed by others.they ran from the place and ask 
others to fight.so coward.shame.i laugh on them.its only the 
charistianity and judiasm that makes them think evil and 
stupid.listen stupid people get the fuck out of charistainity 
and judiasm and think good bcoz u r living in 21st century

From: allatti2d
To: only a human being
Subject: your post
Date: Sat Mar 23 13:25:17 2002

Message:
HUH????

Your post makes you sound like an idiot.  What are you trying to 
say there?

Maybe it would be a good idea for YOU to get out of this world 
full of sins.  There is still time, buddy.  Might I suggest a 
running car and a closed garage?  Allah is waiting for you.

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From: DON'T TREAD ON ME
To: om/cf
Subject: My Take
Date: Sat Mar 23 16:08:47 2002

Message:
My assumption about the Paki embassy news was that something was 
up.  Like "hot pusuit."  Then again, when there's no news from 
that region, I'm sure that something is up. I just don't know.  
Now about that 18 US soldiers allegedly captured by the enemy, I 
see that tghe Afghan gov't just released a bunch of Talib Jr.s 
who were being detained.  Any connection ?  I tend to doubt it. 
I still don't think there  any 18 American prisoners.

But, yeah, it's too late now for those 2 Americans who were 
blown up in Pakistan

From: open mind/closed fist
To: only a human being
Subject: Education
Date: Sat Mar 23 15:56:48 2002

Message:
You really should look into getting one. The children in 
Afghanistan are happier than all get out for the chance. Check 
it out, unless all those big words get you all frustrated and 
make you wet your pants again.

http://www.unicef.org/noteworthy/afghanistan/bts/index.html

By the way, precision laser guided weapons are not "thrown" you 
fucking numbskull! They are used to AVOID civilian deaths. But 
when the REAL cowards are hiding like rats in mountain caves 
then bombs are dropped to root out the fucking vermin for 
extermination purposes. And what do the rats do? Run like rats 
will do, for the Pakistan boarder and a break from the ass 
whoopin they just recieved. But, like rats, they have pea sized 
brains, so they will come back. Its like spraying half of a 
house full of cockroaches (that you can relate to, huh). What 
happens? All the roaches run to the safety of the unsprayed part.
Not to worry though, we'll finish the job.


From: Facts Finders
To: allatii
Subject: Your post to, so call human being
Date: Sat Mar 23 17:46:08 2002

Message:
Not get out of this world full of sins, but get out of this 
beautiful world with your sins so that the world can be more 
peaceful

From: Fact Finders
To: Om/Cf
Subject: Your post to that so called human guy
Date: Sat Mar 23 17:58:47 2002

Message:
Everyone forgot about human shield they kept their military in 
school, mosque, hospital and other civilian places, so sometime 
smart bomb can also be quided into this position, killing 
innocent civilian, who is to blame only the coward who is using 
human shield.

From: om/cf
To: Fact Finders
Subject: Cowardly Tactics
Date: Sat Mar 23 18:36:31 2002

Message:
It's such a shame this is done. Saddam is the master of the 
human shield tactic. It serves two purposes for these sicko's: 
Knowing the good nature and reluctance to attack civilian areas 
by the U.S. & U.K., it provides a level of security and safety. 
Number two, if civilian areas are attacked based on intelligence 
info it provides a propoganda bonanza. Its a win-win situation 
in the eyes of these wacked out idiots who could'nt care less 
about innocent people.

From: Facts Finder
To: All
Subject: Why?
Date: Sat Mar 23 18:08:18 2002

Message:
Can someone tell me why those Taliban prisoner of war were 
release? Who give the go ahead? What about those Ameircan 
captured? What were this Prisoners shouting when they release, 
victory, relief, thanking allah for their release and asking for 
forgiveness from Allah for their sins? Or thinking they have won 
their release from Allah. Where do they go from there? Was there 
any consultation with the American? Have they change in the 
attitude or are they still supporting the Taliban rule? if it is 
for the rule, they have just release a bunch or suicide bombers.

I just hope these Taliban prisoners will be able to see what 
have change in Aghanistan during this period and time and agree 
with what is going on instead of the Old Taliban rules or else 
many innocent life will be threaten again.

Did you guys watch the video about the suicide bombers family 
intervied? We do not know if this family were threatened, they 
look threatened with so many mask man with rifle around them. 
How can they say anything else except that they were proud of 
their son suicide bombing. They were also ask not to cry. What 
were they crying the dead of their son or the fear of the guns.

Who knows maybe the family is against his son from joining this 
people. I read somewhere that some of these families did not get 
any promise payment at all from the terrorist group.

Lastly, I also notice there is many good questions for the 
muslim's supporters on this board to reply, left unanswered.

Each time I see a muslim post it is about the good of Islam(you 
have to proof it), and death to the non-believer or they will 
pay at the end. How American, Isreal, and its allies are killing 
innocent civilians. Yes these are innocent civilian caught in 
crossfire not in cafe, cinemas, buses, shopping malls.

The Isreali or American don't parade their dead on the street to 
start a propaganda row on their killing. Each time there is an 
innocent palestinian especially children killed, there would be 
a big parade with a lot of bullets fire into the air to create 
atmosphere. These bullet can buy a lot of food for the poor 
muslims children around the world.

The big question is how many percent of the world Muslim 
population is supporting these people, be it Al qaida, Hamas, 
Islamid Jihad, Hisbollah, Abu Sayyaf and etc. Do they believe 
that these people are fighting for Muslim cause? That is how 
long this war is going to be.

Let us pray for knowledge, truth and peace on this Passion 
Sunday.

From: Facts Finder
To: All
Subject: Why?
Date: Sat Mar 23 18:08:18 2002

Message:
Can someone tell me why those Taliban prisoner of war were 
release? Who give the go ahead? What about those Ameircan 
captured? What were this Prisoners shouting when they release, 
victory, relief, thanking allah for their release and asking for 
forgiveness from Allah for their sins? Or thinking they have won 
their release from Allah. Where do they go from there? Was there 
any consultation with the American? Have they change in the 
attitude or are they still supporting the Taliban rule? if it is 
for the rule, they have just release a bunch or suicide bombers.

I just hope these Taliban prisoners will be able to see what 
have change in Aghanistan during this period and time and agree 
with what is going on instead of the Old Taliban rules or else 
many innocent life will be threaten again.

Did you guys watch the video about the suicide bombers family 
intervied? We do not know if this family were threatened, they 
look threatened with so many mask man with rifle around them. 
How can they say anything else except that they were proud of 
their son suicide bombing. They were also ask not to cry. What 
were they crying the dead of their son or the fear of the guns.

Who knows maybe the family is against his son from joining this 
people. I read somewhere that some of these families did not get 
any promise payment at all from the terrorist group.

Lastly, I also notice there is many good questions for the 
muslim's supporters on this board to reply, left unanswered.

Each time I see a muslim post it is about the good of Islam(you 
have to proof it), and death to the non-believer or they will 
pay at the end. How American, Isreal, and its allies are killing 
innocent civilians. Yes these are innocent civilian caught in 
crossfire not in cafe, cinemas, buses, shopping malls.

The Isreali or American don't parade their dead on the street to 
start a propaganda row on their killing. Each time there is an 
innocent palestinian especially children killed, there would be 
a big parade with a lot of bullets fire into the air to create 
atmosphere. These bullet can buy a lot of food for the poor 
muslims children around the world.

The big question is how many percent of the world Muslim 
population is supporting these people, be it Al qaida, Hamas, 
Islamid Jihad, Hisbollah, Abu Sayyaf and etc. Do they believe 
that these people are fighting for Muslim cause? That is how 
long this war is going to be.

Let us pray for knowledge, truth and peace on this Passion 
Sunday.

From: Facts Finder
To: Om/Cf
Date: Sat Mar 23 19:09:02 2002

Message:
And I tell you this innocent people are sometime also protecting 
these cause. Like that Fat Lady.

From: Fair Guy
To: All participants
Subject: What is Islam?
Date: Sat Mar 23 19:09:03 2002

Message:
Hi everybody,

I kindly request every Islam-heaterd, you may have to study the 
concept of Islamic relationship with other religions before you 
start bluffing. Those who are killing innocent people with the 
name of Islam can't represent the Islam. If you go back to what 
the Messenger requested his followers when they were during a 
war, not to kill old people, not to burn a tree, not to kill a 
kid, females, not to kill religious people in churchs. Now 
adays, see who is getting killed iccocently and the whole world 
are blind and silent. Aren't those Palastinians being chupped 
every days by the jewish, the International news coverage are 
not showing the true picture ,why ? cause mostly owned by those 
jewish, and did you ever know that Israel was not exist at all 
and those British Baster got rid of them through the Camp David 
Covenant. The brave palastinians are defending themselves, with 
what, trucks, or F16? they are responding to what is caused by 
the GREAT TERROR Sharon, guys refer to the history and read read 
and read before you give a stupid opinion. Mr Sharon, the Prime 
Minister of Israel, the Man!!, was a war criminal in Shab'a, in 
Lebanon he killed hundred of INNOCENT people (which are now 
called terrorist). 

Sooner or later "Absolute power corrupts absolutely"


From: om/cf
To: Facts Finder
Date: Sat Mar 23 19:27:21 2002

Message:
I read a interview a month or more ago with a Palestinian family 
whose daughter had been shot to death at a Isreali checkpoint 
after rushing the soldiers with a knife and trying to stab them. 
She was 15 years old. In the interview, the mother was described 
as wailing in agony at the death of her daughter. The father on 
the other hand was so proud and happy for his daughters actions 
and the price she paid. I believe they mentioned he was a doctor 
or a dentist, so not an uneducated man.

As a father myself, I will never in a million years, understand 
how a father could possibly express such happiness at the 
senseless death of one of his own children. I have read 
elsewhere, that the families of Palestinian suicide bombers 
recieve $25,000 from accounts set up hamas and contributed to by 
Iraq. If true, there is another reason Saddam must fall hard.

From: Facts Finder
To: Om/Cf
Date: Sat Mar 23 20:19:17 2002

Message:
Yes I read that they are paid a huge some, but some of their 
families were not paid this promise sum.

Just Imagine the family of the latest suicide bombers as I 
mention on the previous post. Were to say in front of some many 
gunmen. "We are true Islam and we believe in Allah but we 
disagree with our son suicide bombing of innocent lives. What 
will happen on national television. another Daniel Pearl's 
murder.

From: atop the pole
To: Facts Finder
Subject: Stop the blundering religious chaos!
Date: Sat Mar 23 20:28:28 2002

Message:
What? Your praying for knowledge, truth & peace? That's just 
fine for you now, but let's break that down into detail. I m not 
going to speak non-vague illogical religious lingo trying to 
convince you into thinking you have to  sacrifice  variables in 
your life simply because you believe a God or God s gave life to 
you. If a doctor saves your life (that would be as a second 
chance in life) do you commit yourself as his loyal follower?

An explanation to your searching  

Here is the  knowledge  &  truth  your praying for loyal 
confused one: Religion was adopted from passed on techniques 
upon evolution; an unknown number of centuries where various 
political powers (often referring to themselves as religious 
leaders, soldiers, emperors, etc.) quested to gain total control 
of his controlling abilities, size, technology, etc. However far 
man could reach across the lands with his Army and other powers 
was considered domination for ultimately controlling society. 
Naturally man has experimented with different techniques for 
accomplishing MASS POPULATION CONTROL. So far out of all the 
techniques, religion is by far the largest and oldest of 
military Psychology Operations known to exist. Your government 
wants to control you (and all the family members after you) by 
using any and every method they can. So far it seems to be 
working rather effectively since the majority of this planets 
population is brainwashed by religion and the powers behind it s 
continual uprising. But the truth is, most people could never 
come close to faintly understanding the reason of the universe   
much less, an individuals short time in it. Being said, religion 
gives man something to latch against through life so to die with 
it like a security blanket. The nature of the beast is always 
looking for comfort.

Additionally, humans are naturally dominating. You know only 
what society has taught you to believe and what you have 
selected from those list of options given by those who dominate 
you. If another religion existed that you weren t exposed to at 
a young age, then how do you know about it? You don t practice 
it if nobody around you does either, right?! Your own society 
breeds religious hoppers to think they owe part   if not all   
of your life to something that gave you life to begin with. 
Religious followers are mass-hypno-religiousitized puppets 
convinced to  get on there knees  to the government that claims 
ownership to you. Our societies are made up of a lot of weak 
minded people to control (which is like money on trees to the 
governments). And if your little Johnny or little Suzie hears 
you telling them that religion  X  (where  X  represents any 
religion) is the only way to life, truth, and happiness in an 
afterlife, etc  then your programming your kids (as if 
formatting a hard drive to your pleasures) and our society to 
live in a fictitious universe. Search for the truth within 
yourself.

The peace:

Because the government will stop at nothing to control you and 
all your offspring, and there offspring via military / religious 
tactics  religion nor military powers will ever cease to exist.  
The only way to find peace is to accept your environment and 
move on to your own business (wash the dog, watch T.V., do 
laundry, etc.). I ve accepted this world as it is   just as I 
accept driving a regular car living in a regular house. I 
recommend you do the same. So, you want to find peace within 
yourself and this world? Accept the things you cannot change, 
have the courage to change the things you  can, & have wisdom to 
know the differences.

Just remember - most importantly  don t come crying when your 
prayers do nothing more than fill the time gaps of your very 
short existence. Pray on, stay suppressed in your vague 
religious reality, get old and pass on. And then you will be 
sure to rest in  peace .

From: Facts Finder
To: Om/Cf
Subject: Sorry
Date: Sat Mar 23 20:30:55 2002

Message:
Hey guys, sorry for the double post, I don't know why I just 
sent once. I am no sponsor.

From: atop the pole
To: Facts Finder
Subject: Stop the blundering religious chaos!
Date: Sat Mar 23 20:28:28 2002

Message:
What? Your praying for knowledge, truth & peace? That's just 
fine for you now, but let's break that down into detail. I m not 
going to speak non-vague illogical religious lingo trying to 
convince you into thinking you have to  sacrifice  variables in 
your life simply because you believe a God or God s gave life to 
you. If a doctor saves your life (that would be as a second 
chance in life) do you commit yourself as his loyal follower?

An explanation to your searching  

Here is the  knowledge  &  truth  your praying for loyal 
confused one: Religion was adopted from passed on techniques 
upon evolution; an unknown number of centuries where various 
political powers (often referring to themselves as religious 
leaders, soldiers, emperors, etc.) quested to gain total control 
of his controlling abilities, size, technology, etc. However far 
man could reach across the lands with his Army and other powers 
was considered domination for ultimately controlling society. 
Naturally man has experimented with different techniques for 
accomplishing MASS POPULATION CONTROL. So far out of all the 
techniques, religion is by far the largest and oldest of 
military Psychology Operations known to exist. Your government 
wants to control you (and all the family members after you) by 
using any and every method they can. So far it seems to be 
working rather effectively since the majority of this planets 
population is brainwashed by religion and the powers behind it s 
continual uprising. But the truth is, most people could never 
come close to faintly understanding the reason of the universe   
much less, an individuals short time in it. Being said, religion 
gives man something to latch against through life so to die with 
it like a security blanket. The nature of the beast is always 
looking for comfort.

Additionally, humans are naturally dominating. You know only 
what society has taught you to believe and what you have 
selected from those list of options given by those who dominate 
you. If another religion existed that you weren t exposed to at 
a young age, then how do you know about it? You don t practice 
it if nobody around you does either, right?! Your own society 
breeds religious hoppers to think they owe part   if not all   
of your life to something that gave you life to begin with. 
Religious followers are mass-hypno-religiousitized puppets 
convinced to  get on there knees  to the government that claims 
ownership to you. Our societies are made up of a lot of weak 
minded people to control (which is like money on trees to the 
governments). And if your little Johnny or little Suzie hears 
you telling them that religion  X  (where  X  represents any 
religion) is the only way to life, truth, and happiness in an 
afterlife, etc  then your programming your kids (as if 
formatting a hard drive to your pleasures) and our society to 
live in a fictitious universe. Search for the truth within 
yourself.

The peace:

Because the government will stop at nothing to control you and 
all your offspring, and there offspring via military / religious 
tactics  religion nor military powers will ever cease to exist.  
The only way to find peace is to accept your environment and 
move on to your own business (wash the dog, watch T.V., do 
laundry, etc.). I ve accepted this world as it is   just as I 
accept driving a regular car living in a regular house. I 
recommend you do the same. So, you want to find peace within 
yourself and this world? Accept the things you cannot change, 
have the courage to change the things you  can, & have wisdom to 
know the differences.

Just remember - most importantly  don t come crying when your 
prayers do nothing more than fill the time gaps of your very 
short existence. Pray on, stay suppressed in your vague 
religious reality, get old and pass on. And then you will be 
sure to rest in  peace .

From: Facts Finder
To: Fair Guy, Atop the pole
Date: Sat Mar 23 20:33:00 2002

Message:
Thanks for your post, I have to go. Will come back to you soon. 
Take care. Have a wonderful weekend. You too Om/Cf and the rest 
reading. Have a nice weekend. 

From: om/cf
To: Fair Guy & atop the pole
Date: Sat Mar 23 20:55:51 2002

Message:
Fair Guy you stated--------------------------------------------->
Those who are killing innocent people with the name of Islam 
can't represent the Islam.

These are the words of a Palestinian suicide bomber.

Finally, I searched for my God in the holy Koran and found it 
filled with verses and commands on how to end my oppression, he 
added, eyes blazing.

http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/article/0,,178-245592,00.html

atop the pole: 
The screen name....LOL! I'll assume you are female and of course 
sexual position preferances are sooo much more important than 
religious beliefs. I agree with some of your post though.

From: allatti2d
To: atop the pole
Subject: That must be some pole you're on
Date: Sat Mar 23 22:13:44 2002

Message:
I don't understand what you're trying to achieve with your post 
up there.  You come across as an angry, hateful, paranoid, 
arrogant person.  You remind me of my ex, who liked to beat up 
his wife and kids.  He spoke like you.

Oh yeah, I think I get the pole thing... you like to talk down 
to others.  Or else you're trying to compensate for something 
smaller.  Maybe both.  Probably both.

You see governments as wanting to CONTROL or DOMINATE the 
world.  I think in many cases, that just isn't true.  But you 
put them all in the same category.  You see this control as 
being exerted through military or religious means, but that also 
is not true in all cases.  You see religion as a tool of 
government (or groups) to control others.  That also is not true 
of all religions, as you seem to think.  Why don't you ask 
Merlyn about that, or Facts Finder (whom you obviously don't 
care to understand or know), or the Native Americans whose 
religion was/is essentially practicing a peaceful coexistence 
with other creatures on earth and the earth itself?

In any case, you sure don't know much about the world.  You have 
it all wrapped up in a neat little package that you're selling 
to other hateful people.  Why don't you learn more before you 
preach to others about human nature?  Why don't you look inside 
yourself, inside your own heart and your own past, to examine 
why you feel you need to berate others and make others feel 
shitty, and totally deny the human spirit?  I think you have a 
long way to go.  Get off your damned pole and go home.

From: Observer
To: All and Atop the Pole
Date: Sat Mar 23 23:10:40 2002

Message:
I can understand the logic Atop is trying to convey.  It may be a 
little out there with a little hint of paranoia (spelling)but can 
you prove him or her wrong; even if it doesn't coincide with most 
opinions?  I'm not saying I agree with Atop but I don't detect 
any "hatred" in his/her post except maybe against religion in 
general, but that's his/her opinion he's/she's entitled to it.  I 
do agree with one point though.  There is SO many things and 
variables and concepts and ideas and complexities that have yet 
to be tapped.  Of all the things there is to know we humans have 
not even begun to see the tip of the iceburg.  I'm at work so I 
gotta go before I get in trouble!  Peace!

From: SISTER
To: ALLATTI2D
Date: Sat Mar 23 23:56:54 2002

Message:
HEY FOOL YOU DONT TAKE ALLAHS NAME LOL THERE IS ONLY ONE ALLAH 
LOL THAT IS HOW ALL OF YOU ON THE BOARD GANG UP ON ME BUT YOU 
WILL LOOSE LOL 
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!   

From: tired
To: all of you
Subject: sad
Date: Sun Mar 24 00:15:32 2002

Message:
I think it's really sad to see people arguing over who's 
following the right religion.  How the hell are we supposed to 
find peace if people can't learn to respect others choices?  
Each of us is entitled to our own individual opinions, but 
that's all they are, opinions.  None of us can possibly know 
who's right...or if anyone in this world is right at all.  I 
don't know where I will go when this life is over, I don't 
believe I should live according to anyone's "commandments" or 
rules except my own, however I do believe that I should lead a 
good and honest life and that alone will get me where ever I 
should be.  I don't believe one should push their beliefs on 
another and I don't believe one should tell another their 
beliefs are wrong because as I said before, none of us can 
possibly know. If we could all learn to co-exist with the earth 
and each other as allatti2d mentioned of the native americans, 
things would be so much easier.  We don't agree with each other 
on so many things but each of us is entitled to live our life as 
we see fit, not as others think we should so everyone needs to 
just get over it and move on(especially sister)  Although I have 
no particular diety to pray to, I join Facts Finder in praying 
for knowledge, truth and peace.  there's my two cents...sorry if 
it doesn't make much sense, I'm tired I just couldn't pass up 
the opportunity to post my opinion.  By the way, please remember 
that it is not each other we are supposed to be fighting.

From: still tired
To: all of you
Subject: still sad
Date: Sun Mar 24 01:33:14 2002

Message:
I just read the board from 9-12-01 and it's just horrible.  Why 
don't people realize that it's not Afghanistan we are fighting 
but the terrorist?  There are so many posts that say "you 
ragheads" this and that and blaming all of Afghanistan for 
harboring Bin Laden.  We can't contol everything that goes on in 
our country and neither can they.  We can not fight hate with 
hate.  A mother on the board brought up a good point...she says 
if you put two three year olds of different ethnic backgrounds 
in a room together, they will play nicely together.  I've always 
thought that we should look at the world through the eyes of a 
child, I think that is more important now than ever.  Let's not 
teach our children to hate.  Let us all teach them to love each 
other and to love our earth or there will be no future for them.

From: mohamed
To: who talk about holly quran
Subject: the islam religion in fact
Date: Sun Mar 24 03:50:56 2002

Message:
any one want to make disadvantage of islam he should be punished 
and the government should make hard penalty on him .

From: Walter
To: allatti2d/Britney Spears
Date: Sun Mar 24 03:50:24 2002

Message:
I don't understand what you're trying to achieve with your post 
                   up there.  You come across as an angry, 
hateful, paranoid,arrogant person.  You remind me of my ex, who  
liked to beat up his wife and kids.  He spoke like you.
Oh yeah, I think I get the pole thing... you like to talk down   
to others.  Or else you're trying to compensate  for something   
smaller.  Maybe both.  Probably  both.  You see governments as 
wanting to CONTROL or DOMINATE the 
                 world.  I think in many cases, that just isn't 
true. ___________________________________________________________

  In most cases,men who beat on women and children give out many 
clues as to their abusive personality long before an actual 
beating is ever administered.The biggest problem is that the 
victim usually hopes to be able to control the aggressors 
personality,rather then the intelligent thing,which is to get 
away from them.But many people would have no lives at all if they 
didn't have a sob story to tell on Ricky Lake.
 As far as talking down to others,I'm sure YOU would recognize 
that before anyone else,since I've rarely seen a post from you 
where you didn't do exactly the same thing.
 The only government that doesn't want to control,is no 
government at all.It's a shame when people are so 
empty-headed,that they believe everything they are told,like 
nodding robots.                      

                  
                            

                

From: Observer
To: Sister
Subject: Seriously
Date: Sun Mar 24 06:53:34 2002

Message:
Please do not take this the wrong way.  I'm sincerely telling 
you you may need therapy for emotional discomfort and anger.  
Just concerned and only trying to help.  They can help you.

From: Your Honest Sponsor
To:
Date: Sun Mar 24 08:03:13 2002

Message:
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From: Your Honest Sponsor (2)
To:
Date: Sun Mar 24 08:08:00 2002

Message:
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From: om/cf
To: tired/still tired
Date: Sun Mar 24 08:50:25 2002

Message:
I mostly agree with your 2 posts though somewhat generalized and 
a little rosey for me. I strongly agree with your statement 
about living a good, honest life and letting the chips fall 
where they may. In the end, its all we can really do.

I also agree with letting all live in freedom and as they 
choose, with some stipulations. When "living as they choose" 
includes criminal acts, flat ass murdering innocent civilians on 
purpose, that seems a good spot to draw the line.

From:
To:
Date: Sun Mar 24 12:03:51 2002

Message:
The New York towers are falling down,
           Falling down,
           Falling down,
The New York towers are falling down,
           My fair lady

From: Allah
To: Sister
Date: Sun Mar 24 12:10:13 2002

Message:
Shut the fuck up!

From: Amy (tired)
To: om/cf etc...
Date: Sun Mar 24 13:17:31 2002

Message:
First of all, let me say to whomever worte the statement about 
the "towers"...that is wrong.  Too many innocent lives were lost 
in that.  who knows how many of them were Muslim?  I'm sure they 
were NOT all christians.  I think it's a shame you would post 
such a thing yet be too much of a coward to leave a name.  You 
know, what goes around comes around...so I know these people 
will get what's coming somehow.  Secondly om/cf-I agree that 
there should be stipulations and those who commit criminal acts 
should be punished according to the crime and up until recently 
(being the Texan that I am)I believed strongly in the death 
penalty.  Now I think the death penalty is a bad option because 
A)who are we to decide who should live or die? and B)that would 
be letting them off waaaay to easy. (I thank Andrea Yates for 
showing me that light.) I believe those who are involved in all 
that is going on should be brought to justice but I also wish 
that the rest of the world would learn from this experience and 
realize that now is as good a time as ever for all to come 
together and live in peace. If we could do that, it would be so 
much easier to bring all this hate and murdering to an end.  
Geeze, I never thought I'd grow up to be a hippie!   

From: om/cf
To: Amy & All
Subject: Finally, peace in the Middle East
Date: Sun Mar 24 14:12:05 2002

Message:
http://www.thebrainstrust.co.uk/

X-BOX BRINGS PEACE TO MIDDLE EAST
 
In a surprise move today, Bill Gates has appeared in Gaza City 
to announce that Microsoft would be launching its new X-Box 
terminal as the solution to the Israeli-Palestinian 
conflict. "It's clear that all these guys want to do is to kick 
the shit out of each other and with the new X-box console they 
can do it in virtual hyper-reality without leaving the comfort 
of their own armchairs," he boasted. 
  
Bill Gates was taking part in a unique demonstration of the new 
games console featuring a networking death-kill game especially 
written for the X-Box entitled "Die Filthy Scum". The player has 
the opportunity to be either a "courageous Israeli soldier" or 
a "heroic Palestinian freedom fighter". Apart from the names 
there is no difference in either of the two characters and both 
are equipped with similar amounts of weapons, hate and disregard 
for innocent victims and children. The object of the game is to 
slaughter as many people from the other side as possible. Bud 
Crench, head games designer for Microsoft, explained the 
rules. "Well there aren't any really. You just try and kill 
everyone in the opposing camp. Although you get extra points for 
coming up with good excuses like 'That five year old walked 
towards me in a threatening manner' or 'He insulted Allah by 
urinating in a public convenience facing Mecca'."

Both Yasser Arafat and Ariel Sharon have welcomed the 
intervention of Microsoft in the conflict, although both have 
expressed concerns that "it just won't be the same unless you 
can feel the recoil of the gun against your shoulder." The 
effect of the launch was immediately visible in the Gaza strip. 
Within hours the streets were cleared and the sounds of computer 
generated explosions were heard from every home. Assaf Miyara, a 
corporal in the Israeli Forces, commented "It's great! I've 
already massacred 15 children and destroyed at least 30 houses 
with the elderly and infirm inside." From within his flat in 
Gaza City, Mustapha Husain, a member of Hamas agreed, "The 
infidels are falling like nine pins," he explained 
delightedly. "Look! Look at this," he yelled as a computer 
generated suicide bomber blew himself up in a children's party.

Within the US, the Government gave a cautious welcome to the X-
Box solution, but expressed concern that the prevalence of 
violent games consoles now meant that teenagers were better 
equipped to fight a war than most soldiers. "I've got my ass 
whupped 15 times by this little shit," confirmed an exasperated 
Colin Powell after another defeat at the game "Gulf War 
Invasion!" by his nephew Errol. "I'm going to get Schwarzkopf 
and show this sucker the meaning of a Desert Storm."

Within Israel, as night settled, the few remaining peace 
campaigners could be seen huddled round a number of X-
Boxes. "It's a new game called Peace in our Time" explained a 
forlorn activist looking up from the console. "But we can't seem 
to make it work..."

From: Amy
To:
Date: Sun Mar 24 19:43:06 2002

Message:
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

From: the real Amy
To: the fake Amy and om/cf and all
Subject: ok
Date: Sun Mar 24 20:19:12 2002

Message:
to om/cf...I don't know whether you intended to offend me with 
that last message or make me laugh but you suceeded in the 
latter because unfortunatly it sounds about right.
  As for whomever wrote that "waaaa" message with my name on it, 
do I really sound as though I am whining?  Am I not free  to 
state my opinion?  Is it wrong of me to want to live in a 
peaceful world?  I know it's not likely but it's still a nice 
thought to have. 

I think it's a shame people can't get along even on a lousy 
internet message board.  If we can't get along here, we'll never 
make it in the real world.  I am thankful and I will never be 
ashamed of the fact that I was raised to treat all 
races/religions and anyone who is different than I with the same 
respect with which I wish to be treated and no matter what 
anyone says about it, I will never change those beliefs nor 
hesitate to voice my opinion.

From: Facts Finder
To: Fair Guy
Date: Sun Mar 24 20:36:49 2002

Message:
Hi, hope you have a nice weekend,

Yes, I do read about what is happening around the whole, and I 
see that a lot of trouble area are the poor muslims nation who 
feel that their poverty is due to the west and children from 
young are brought up to hate the western culture.

You do agree that those terrorist act are not done in the name 
of Islam. I do can see that but, as I say, how many percent of 
the world muslims population support this? How many think Bin 
Laden is doing the right thing?

As mention Isreal has to defend itself, many time I mention, if 
Isreal want to strike on innocent civilians they would strike 
whenever there is a big protest, not like the palestinian, they 
just sent some so called matyr, go into, churches, school, 
buses, restaurent, buses, shopping mall a kill innocent 
civilian. These news are reported around the world and they are 
not own by the Jews. If you blame the west for not giving a fair 
report, then again you must ask the people who kill Daniel Pearl.

As for Sharon, yes I do agree he is the tough leader, who show 
no mercy to anyone who threaten his people.

If you think that what the Islamic terrorists is doing is wrong. 
Pray for them, tell your fellow muslims. Look at all the other 
peaceful muslim country. The people their are happy, the women 
have education, they are covered correctly, they are allow 
freedom, sports and entertainment are allow in accordance to 
their muslim law and the can prosper through trade with any 
other race or religion.

Take Care.

From: Fact Finder
To: atop the pole
Subject: My reply
Date: Sun Mar 24 20:59:24 2002

Message:
Yes, we are all learning everyday of our life, seeking truth, 
wisdom, peace and etc, so we pray to GOD to give us these. Don't 
worry you cannot convince me to give up my GOD since I found him.

In my country we have freedom to choose whatever religion we 
want. Our goverment do not force these religion on us. We have 
bookstore, library, churches, mosque, temples to show us the 
love GOD. It is for us to search and find him by ourselves. 
Religion has been in existance for a long time. Who started it, 
I don't care, as you say I do find comfort in time of trouble 
talking to my GOD.

Your phrase "search for the truth within yourself", yes I agree 
with you, that where I found my GOD.

I do agree some of you points, accepting what you have, enjoy 
what is given and live peacefully.

In my country their are also people like you without religion, 
so be it. Our goverment did not force any of them to convert to 
any religion. Everyday some of these will be converted to any 
one of the religion.

Your phrase "don t come crying when your prayers do nothing more 
than fill the time gaps of your very short existence".

Yes not all my prayers are answered but many important prayers 
were answered. I am not afraid to die, I am just worry for my 
daughter and my dad and if they are able to manage without me, 
then if I have to die, I will die in peace cause I found my GOD.


From: Facts finder
To: atop the pole
Subject: My question.
Date: Sun Mar 24 21:39:24 2002

Message:
Now my question to you. Who give birth to you, your dad, your 
grandfather, your ancester?. Who created your house, your 
country, the world, the universe? Which come first, the chicken 
or the egg. Why do you have to die? Why are there so many 
different type of animal including us and plant. There must be 
some divine being that created all this. The GOVERMENT?

So there is GOD, how do we know more about him, through our 
goverment or searching the truth inside us through our knowledge.

I wonder, if something really serious happen to you and there is 
no one to help you. What do you do? In your heart I believe you 
will be praying the divine being GOD for help. Don't lie to 
yourself. As I say many people without religion believe there is 
GOD too but fine it a hassle to follow any religion and feel 
obligated to it. I am not obligated to my religion, I am just 
happy to be part of it.

I just hope that you will find peace through out your life and 
always remember my message. When you found you GOD.

From: om/cf
To: Amy
Date: Sun Mar 24 20:54:31 2002

Message:
I ran across that piece the other day and I got a laugh out of 
it so I thought a few others might too. No bad intentions.

It may be a cliche, but America is a melting pot of peoples. At 
some point, everyone who lives in the U.S. will have to deal 
with "foreigners" which is funny because even American Indians 
are often looked upon as "foreigners". There are many different 
nationalities, races and religions. All of them have good 
people, and bad people. That is a undisputable fact. I know 
people I would call friends who are Laotion, Mexican, Bosnian 
and there are more. All are good people. I personally don't know 
anyone who is Arab or Muslim, or Jewish for that matter. Now, 
does that make my opinions on Muslim/Jew issues irrelevent 
because I only have read subject books and kept up with the 
supposedly biased American media? The funny thing is, the 
American media is biased both ways, depending on the point of 
view. Typically American, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Anyway, your values seem to be well placed. Just make sure they 
are tempered with awareness as well. After all, the 09/11/01 
highjackers were in the states for some time before making their 
move. And I would bet all their neighbors thought they 
were 'nice young men'.

From: Facts Finder
To: atop the pole and all
Subject: My Story
Date: Sun Mar 24 21:53:15 2002

Message:
How did I find my GOD.

This is a true story, nothing made up.

Some of you may have read this in my previous post, I am a 48 
years man, and a cancer patient.

I was succesful businessman, having big house (2 million), big 
mercedes, lots money. I was having a lot of fun, I go to church 
whenever I feel like it. I was in outstanding catholice (those 
who stand outside instead of going in), in my country the church 
is always crowded.

Then back in 1993 I was diagnosed with Nasal Lymphoma cancer, 
and was told that I have 1 year to live. I refused chemo or 
radio therapy treatment and  search around for traditional cure. 
When to a few countries  to try their treatment but all turn out 
to be unsuccesful. I did not die after one year I do not feel 
weak, probably because of my sportman status. I drag on and 
still enjoy my life normally until 1997, my neck swell to 24 
inches bigger than my head, I look like a cobra and I was 
getting weaker and weaker and start to faint, still I refuse 
treatment until June 1998, I could not even sit, have to lie 
down. My family brought me to the hospital and the doctors give 
told me that my cancer was in the 4 stage and I have only 3 
months to live and they have to start the treatment immdiately. 
I have no other choice since that is my last chance. Everything 
was bad, the economy crisis, health and everything went wrong my 
fortune shrank. I too shrank from 85 kgs to 60 kgs, now I am 
around 75 kgs. I was a big muscular guy.

My family, friends from different religion was all praying for 
me and I too was praying. The funny think is that I myself did 
not think I was going to die that early. So I started the 
treatment of both Radio and Chemo therapy. So was there a 
miracle. Yes, that how I saw it. Just as the doctor was putting 
me on chemo, I have a church friend who give eucharist(in 
christian, this represent the body of christ) to the sick in 
hospital came to give me the eucharist. Her name was Mary, and 
she brought a friend with her, his name is Joseph, and two of my 
sister was with me Pedin and Judy. I took the eucharist and 
started the chemo treatment. Next day I start to feel better and 
as the day passes I was able to sit on my bed and I was getting 
stronger and stronger the rest is history, to long to explain my 
whole treatment of 8 months. When I was recovering after my 
chemo, my sister and I start to recall what happen. It is like 
the story of Lazarus, Jesus was brought to Lazarus by his 
parent, Mary and Joseph to raise him from the dead, and his two 
sister was there to witness it. So my friend Mary and her friend 
Joseph brought the Eucharist Jesus to bring me back to life.

I did not follow Jesus because of this, it is something that 
makes me suddenly after my recovery that makes me want to go to 
church more often and I enjoy everytime I in church. Why? I 
don't know. I have cool down myself. I was a hot temper guy. I 
own a pub and use to beat up some nasty people. All that is 
gone, I do sometime get very angry, but I will feel very sad and 
sometime breakdown because I feel I fail my GOD. So far I have 
get a number of people, coming to join me in church.

Now I am much happier, still go pubbing quite often, my wife is 
working in UK and my daughter is a 20 years old and dating, so I 
have a lot of time on my own, play golf, do a bit of business.

So always remenber, God is always present. Keep on praying, talk 
to him. Go to church, mosque, temple or whatever you believe in 
sit there and talk to him. I like to go there on weekdays, when 
the church is empty, you can feel the silence, you can feel that 
he is around. Talk to him, you will find a lot of peace.

May GOD shine his blessing on you and your family.

From: Facts Finder
To: atop the pole and all
Subject: My Story
Date: Sun Mar 24 21:53:15 2002

Message:
How did I find my GOD.

This is a true story, nothing made up.

Some of you may have read this in my previous post, I am a 48 
years man, and a cancer patient.

I was succesful businessman, having big house (2 million), big 
mercedes, lots money. I was having a lot of fun, I go to church 
whenever I feel like it. I was in outstanding catholice (those 
who stand outside instead of going in), in my country the church 
is always crowded.

Then back in 1993 I was diagnosed with Nasal Lymphoma cancer, 
and was told that I have 1 year to live. I refused chemo or 
radio therapy treatment and  search around for traditional cure. 
When to a few countries  to try their treatment but all turn out 
to be unsuccesful. I did not die after one year I do not feel 
weak, probably because of my sportman status. I drag on and 
still enjoy my life normally until 1997, my neck swell to 24 
inches bigger than my head, I look like a cobra and I was 
getting weaker and weaker and start to faint, still I refuse 
treatment until June 1998, I could not even sit, have to lie 
down. My family brought me to the hospital and the doctors give 
told me that my cancer was in the 4 stage and I have only 3 
months to live and they have to start the treatment immdiately. 
I have no other choice since that is my last chance. Everything 
was bad, the economy crisis, health and everything went wrong my 
fortune shrank. I too shrank from 85 kgs to 60 kgs, now I am 
around 75 kgs. I was a big muscular guy.

My family, friends from different religion was all praying for 
me and I too was praying. The funny think is that I myself did 
not think I was going to die that early. So I started the 
treatment of both Radio and Chemo therapy. So was there a 
miracle. Yes, that how I saw it. Just as the doctor was putting 
me on chemo, I have a church friend who give eucharist(in 
christian, this represent the body of christ) to the sick in 
hospital came to give me the eucharist. Her name was Mary, and 
she brought a friend with her, his name is Joseph, and two of my 
sister was with me Pedin and Judy. I took the eucharist and 
started the chemo treatment. Next day I start to feel better and 
as the day passes I was able to sit on my bed and I was getting 
stronger and stronger the rest is history, to long to explain my 
whole treatment of 8 months. When I was recovering after my 
chemo, my sister and I start to recall what happen. It is like 
the story of Lazarus, Jesus was brought to Lazarus by his 
parent, Mary and Joseph to raise him from the dead, and his two 
sister was there to witness it. So my friend Mary and her friend 
Joseph brought the Eucharist Jesus to bring me back to life.

I did not follow Jesus because of this, it is something that 
makes me suddenly after my recovery that makes me want to go to 
church more often and I enjoy everytime I in church. Why? I 
don't know. I have cool down myself. I was a hot temper guy. I 
own a pub and use to beat up some nasty people. All that is 
gone, I do sometime get very angry, but I will feel very sad and 
sometime breakdown because I feel I fail my GOD. So far I have 
get a number of people, coming to join me in church.

Now I am much happier, still go pubbing quite often, my wife is 
working in UK and my daughter is a 20 years old and dating, so I 
have a lot of time on my own, play golf, do a bit of business.

So always remenber, God is always present. Keep on praying, talk 
to him. Go to church, mosque, temple or whatever you believe in 
sit there and talk to him. I like to go there on weekdays, when 
the church is empty, you can feel the silence, you can feel that 
he is around. Talk to him, you will find a lot of peace.

May GOD shine his blessing on you and your family.

From: om/cf
To: Facts Finder
Date: Sun Mar 24 22:54:27 2002

Message:
There is a line in a Bruce Springsteen song that has always 
stuck in my head, 'at the end of every hard day, people find a 
reason to believe'.

From: om/cf and all
To: Amy
Subject: tired again-boy I need to get more sleep
Date: Sun Mar 24 22:47:03 2002

Message:
I didn't think you meant anything bad, but seeing as how I don't 
know much about your personality yet, I thought I'd make sure.  
As I said in my last message, I got a laugh out of it myself.  
I'll have to go to that site and explore.  

I will admit that I don't know a lot about the muslim religion, 
hell, I was raised to believe in the Christian God and I don't 
know much about Christianity.  Just mere weeks before the 
attacks I realized that the only reason I was a so 
called "Christian" is because I was never taught there were 
other religions.  Oh sure I knew there were different 
denominations of Christianity but that's it.  I decided to set 
out to learn about other religions and while I haven't learned 
terribly much, I feel the best "religion" for me is to just 
follow what is in my heart.  Many of the things I have always 
believed in seem to lean more towards the earth-based religions, 
but I will not consider myself part of any religion until I 
learn more. I consider myself to be at a point to where I am 
just starting to take interest in all of this and I am really 
wanting to learn all I can.  My neighbors are from either 
Pakistan or Afghanistan(I can't remember which) and they seem to 
be pretty decent people,(although I have never seen his pregnant 
wife and I can't figure out why the ?mom/mom-in-law? or whoever 
she is living with them comes out every afternoon at about the 
same time and just stands there in the driveway and stares at me 
without so much as a hello)the man always stops and talks to me 
if we happen to see each other.  My kids think they are great.  
Though I might not agree with their beliefs I admire the 
devotion of some of the muslims I see praying at different times 
of the day no matter what they are doing.  I think it's an 
awesome thing to witness.  My well placed values ARE tempered 
with awareness though, of all around me.  Although I do feel I 
should treat all creatures with respect, I will always be aware 
that they may not always do the same and I do realize that there 
are good and bad in every culture, I just think it's really sad 
that it seems the bad sometimes out-weigh the good.  I'd like to 
learn more about the people who are suffering over there(as well 
as in other countries including US) and I'd like to know why we 
don't hear more about them.  My minds scrambled right now, I'm 
too tired to think.  Good night

From: Amy
To: om/cf
Subject: sorry
Date: Sun Mar 24 23:37:36 2002

Message:
that last post titled tired, was from me, not om/cf...but I 
guess you all have figured that out.  Sorry om/cf...that proves 
I was tired! :)

From: om/cf
To: the Board & Justice
Subject: POW pilot from the Gulf War
Date: Sun Mar 24 23:28:28 2002

Message:
Has anybody heard about this? A story is cirrculating about a 
downed U.S. pilot who was originally listed as K.I.A. whose 
status has recently changed to M.I.A. in Iraq. I read a A.P. 
wire report today Iraq is inviting U.S. officials and reporters 
to discuss this issue and I am very skeptical.

Justice:
The same online petition outfit thats running the 'free John 
Walker' petition is running one for this downed pilot. The first 
signature was 03/16/02 by a 13 year old girl who started this 
petition. It already has 1826 signatures to Johnnys 481. LOL!!!
Much more legitimate too, real names and hometowns.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?Speicher&1

The 13 year old has her own POW/MIA website:

http://www.geocities.com/nlmendicino/

Quite a kid if you discount her appearance on the Rosie O'Donnel 
show. The women? who thinks all Americans who own guns are 
criminals but its all cool for her adopted kids to be escorted 
to school by armed guards.

From: Justice
To: om/cf
Subject: petition
Date: Mon Mar 25 00:10:29 2002

Message:
The John Walker petition is a joke.  I posted again on line 
475.  I heard something about that downed pilot but the info you 
have is just about as much as I know.  After we decimate Iraq, 
hopefully we will find out more about it.

From: Amy
To:
Subject: free john walker?
Date: Mon Mar 25 00:41:47 2002

Message:
are you serious?

From: the board
To: Amy
Date: Mon Mar 25 02:24:04 2002

Message:
Johnny Walker got his hair cut just like SISTER'S!  How cute!!           

From: A simple Answer
To: Everyone
Subject: A simple Answer
Date: Mon Mar 25 02:19:42 2002

Message:
Why cant we all get along, i know a certain concept it is 
called "who cares" use this in your life to achieve peace.
Don't let things bother you, it is your choice to be happy it is 
your choice to believe in what you want to believe if your life 
is so insecurer that you have to believe in a high being so be 
it. I don't Care and no one else should either!
THE MAHAYANA SECT OF BUDDHISM IS THE TRUE WAY THEY HAVE COME TO 
THE REALISATION THAT LIVING A GOOD LIFE AND BEING GOOD TO OTHERS 
AND NOT TRYING TO HARRASS OTHERS BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGION IS 
THE RIGHT WAY TO GO! LAY BACK TAKE IT EASY LET TIME PASS YOU BY!

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To:
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From: Facts Finder
To: All
Date: Mon Mar 25 04:56:36 2002

Message:
Below is what I read with shock of what the Northern Alliance 
are doing to their own country people just because they are 
different ethnic group, Aren't they muslim too? Same as in 
Indonesia.

Achter Mohammed was expecting quite a different kind of welcome 
when he returned home to Afghanistan from 15 months of exile in 
Iran. But what mattered to the Uzbek warlords in power in his 
hometown was that he was an ethnic Pashtun, and probably had 
brought back some money from work in Iran. 

Three Uzbek commanders took Achter Mohammed straight from the 
bus to their military base and began beating him with heavy 
wooden sticks, repeatedly leaving him unconscious. They stole 
everything he had worked so hard for in Iran, including his 
presents for his family. When they finally released him, he 
returned home to find everything there gone, too. 


 "Armed political factions in northern Afghanistan are 
subjecting ethnic Pashtuns to murder, beating, sexual violence, 
abductions, looting, and extortion" 
"The factions clearly can stop the abuses by their local troops 
when they choose to, but given their past record, it would be 
foolhardy to rely on them to restore security and protect human 
rights." 

"In Balkh province, ethnic Hazara Hizb-i-Wahdat forces were 
involved in several execution-style murders of Pashtun 
villagers." 

Human Rights Watch, Mar.3, 2002

 

Fourteen-year-old Fatima had begged the Hazara soldiers not to 
rape her, saying she was young and a virgin. One of the soldiers 
threatened her with his gun, ordering her to undress or be 
killed. Two different soldiers raped her, and then three others 
raped her mother. The mother asked why the soldiers were doing 
these things. She was told "You are Talibs and you are Pashtun." 
Before leaving, the soldiers beat Fatima's crippled father 
unconscious, and carried off all of the family's 
possessions. "There is nothing left for us; marriage and honor 
are gone," Fatima's mother told us. 

For ethnic Pashtuns in northern Afghanistan, it is payback time. 
They are paying for the sins of the Taliban, simply because most 
of the Taliban leadership were also ethnic Pashtuns. In the past 
month, Human Rights Watch has visited dozens of Pashtun 
communities in northern Afghanistan, personally documenting the 
devastation. We visited village after village that had been 
stripped bare by ethnic militias who had sometimes even taken 
the window frames. We found case after case of beatings, 
looting, murders, extortion and sexual violence against Pashtun 
communities. 

In one village 37 men had been killed in front of their families 
because they did not have enough money to buy their own lives. 
Many of the villages were like ghost towns, abandoned by 
hundreds of Pashtun families after weeks or months of attacks. 
And the violence has not stopped. Our sudden arrival scared off 
two armed Uzbek men who had come to extort money from the 
Pashtun elders in one village in Faryab province. In Samangan 
province, 200 miles away, a village elder had been forced to 
give up his flock of sheep to a local commander the morning of 
our visit. 


From: Facts Finder
To: All
Date: Mon Mar 25 05:50:14 2002

Message:
I also read that Isreal Telivision show on TV for the first time 
how their soldiers were killing a women in front of her children 
in a refugee camp, causing a lot of protest and debate among it 
citizen about the killing, but at least they are not hiding the 
truth. I wonder what normal palestinian say about their suicide 
bombers killing innocent Isreal. This bad how can the soldier do 
such an act. Is that what the palestinian is complaining about 
that we don't get to see. It was said that the soldeirs were 
searching militants and weapon hidden in the refugee camp

From:
To: All
Subject: Help
Date: Mon Mar 25 04:56:36 2002

Message:
Balkh, Afghanistan -- The five men who raped 14-year-old Fatima, 
her mother and two younger sisters last month have no fear of 
the law. 

For eight hours, they took turns assaulting her, her mother, 
Nazu, and sisters Bibi Amina, 10, and Bibi Aisha, 12, all the 
while training a Kalashnikov assault rifle on the girls' 
disabled father, Jamaluddin. Before they left, the men took the 
family's life savings -- about $142 -- and a carpet from the 
living room. 

They returned the next day to warn them not to go to the 
authorities. "They said that they would kill us if we told 
anyone," Jamaluddin said. 

The family says the rapists were soldiers of Gen. Abdul Rashid 
Dostum's army, the Junbish-e-Millie (National Movement), which 
has been terrorizing thousands of civilians in the northern 
province of Balkh since the fall of the Taliban in November. 

Although the war is over, some of Dostum's soldiers, who are 
mostly ethnic Uzbeks but include ethnic Tajik fighters, go out 
almost nightly to rob and rape Pashtuns, the ethnic group that 
composed most of the Taliban militia but is a minority in the 
north. 

Such abuses are a clear illustration that the interim government 
of Prime Minister Hamid Karzai has been unable to stem 
lawlessness throughout much of Afghanistan. 

"A lot of houses have been looted and a lot of women have been 
raped, but people are afraid to talk because they have been 
threatened," said Amir Jan, the leader of the Pashtun community 
in Balkh province. "They are afraid for their lives." 

Fear over the widespread persecution has overcome even 
international aid workers, who are virtually tight-lipped when 
asked about it. 

"I have heard of such cases being committed by a local warlord," 
said an official of a well-known aid agency. "You should talk to 
the Pashtuns." 

The danger of reprisals makes it difficult to assess the number 
of victims. Dostum's soldiers enjoy the protection of their 
powerful leader, and the poorly equipped, unpaid and overmatched 
local police force is unable to arrest those who commit crimes, 
conceded Amir Hamza, the Tajik police chief of Balkh, a town 12 
miles west of the provincial capital, Mazar-e-Sharif. 

"Junbish commanders protect their soldiers from prosecution," 
Hamza said. "We cannot do anything." 

Hamza said he has received many complaints about looting but 
just one regarding rape. He said it is likely that many more 
women have been raped but that they are too ashamed or afraid to 
tell the police. 

A convicted rapist can be executed, according to Islamic Sharia 
law, Hamza said. But because he has just 100 police officers and 
there are 800 Junbish soldiers in the area, he has refused to 
confront the men who raped Nazu and her daughters. In fact, he 
said one of the attackers lives a block away from Nazu's home. 

Provincial security officials say the only way to stop the reign 
of terror is to disarm the fighters and begin punishing those 
who resort to criminal activity. 

The 47-year-old Dostum is well known for his brutal rule in 
northern Afghanistan, and human rights groups have denounced him 
over the years. 

He was one of the most feared enforcers of President Mohammad 
Najibullah, the communist leader who ruled Afghanistan after the 
withdrawal of Soviet troops in 1989. He switched sides in 1992 
when it became apparent that mujahedeen fighters would topple 
Najibullah. His troops later killed many men and raped women and 
children in the carnage that engulfed Kabul. 

Last week, an attempt was made to disarm Dostum's entire 3,000-
man army after some 50 people died in northern Balkh and Sar-e-
Pul provinces in clashes between Junbish and the forces of 
Dostum's rival Tajik warlord, Ustad Atta Mohammed, who until 
recently was Dostum's right-hand man. Government mediators 
attempted to persuade the two warlords to take their militiamen 
off the streets. 

But dozens of armed fighters continue to loiter during the 
daytime hours and loot, rape and extort by night. 

Surgul, an elderly man with a stately gray beard, said Junbish 
men robbed him of $300. They robbed Faiz Mohammad, a man in his 
early 30s, after he sold the last of his cotton crops at the 
Balkh bazaar, he said. Mohammad said they also took 30 sheep 
from his neighbor, Nuriddin. 

Some locals say the Karzai government and the international 
community must get tougher with Dostum. When the U.N.-backed 
interim regime was formed in December, Dostum was appointed 
deputy defense minister -- a step seen by many as a desperate 
attempt to keep him from undermining the new administration. 

In an apparent attempt to introduce the unruly Dostum to 
statesmanship, an elite unit of U.S. Special Forces reportedly 
advises him whenever he travels in the north. "They travel in 
his car and are always by his side during military briefings," 
said Amir Jan, the Pashtun leader. 

Jan, however, does not blame the Americans for aiding Dostum. 

"America doesn't support Dostum so that he can loot people's 
homes," he said. "We understand that." 

But try telling that to Juma Khan of the village of Yakhdon, 
about 20 miles west of Mazar-e-Sharif. Khan, 15, shuddered when 
he recalled the night two weeks ago that Junbish fighters 
carried off his family's possessions and murdered his shepherd 
father. 

"When my father wanted to leave the house to call for help, one 
of the men shot him," he said, pointing at the back of his 
head. "Then, they took 25 sheep and everything from our house. 

"There are 30 houses in our village. They looted them all. They 
said: 'You are Pashtun,' and took everything." 


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To:
Date: Mon Mar 25 06:33:33 2002

Message:
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From: om/cf
To: Walter
Subject: OKC
Date: Mon Mar 25 07:17:28 2002

Message:
Check this out. I've wondered why the U.S. is so concerned with 
a bunch a jungle ding dongs in the Philippenes when there are 
much bigger fish to fry. Of course all those troops are there 
for the kidnapped couple officially, Im sure.

http://insightmag.com/news/221967.html




From: Merlyn
To: Fact finder
Date: Mon Mar 25 09:22:56 2002

Message:
They hate each other and will continue to kill each other off. 
They rape & steal. It would take a few generations of social 
progress to make any change at all. Like a pack of wolves it is 
only the survival of the fittest. No one can trust them and the 
people are defenseless against attack. If the citizens were 
armed and trained and had at least some morals and education, it 
could stop. 

From: Rationalist
To: Everyone
Subject: Been on Spring Break
Date: Mon Mar 25 09:28:42 2002

Message:
I've been on spring break from college so I haven't been on for 
awhile.  First of all I've learned why people are unhappy.  Even 
though I learned this from a different source I believe George 
Carlin put it better than I ever could.  I shall paraphrase what 
he said seeing as how I don't remember the exact words, [Wanna be 
happy?  Give up hope.  A man who gives up hope is then free to 
enjoy himself.]  Live your life moment by moment.  If you have a 
feeling, acknowledge it.  Don't let it stop you or distract you 
from doing what needs to be done.  There is a greek myth about a 
king, his name escapes me.  As punishment, for what I don't know, 
he was to push a heavy boulder up a mountain, only to watch it 
roll down again for all eternity.  The punishment here was not in 
the boulder, but in his own mind as he sought an end to the 
punishment.  He hoped for it to end, even though it never would. 
 Same reasoning can be applied to the burdens in your life.
Looking back I see that had nothing to do with anyone's post so 
I'll move on.  To all the people who say Americans are cowards 
for not fighting over in the middle east, first off, I don't 
think that little country could hold all 300 million of us.  
That's one of the reasons we have specialized people for that.  I 
was turned down by our military myself.  They said my blood 
pressure was to hight and a few years ago I had broke my hand and 
had a steel plate put in my hand.  The recruiter told me that I'd 
have to get of the medicine for high blood pressure and have the 
plate removed, and lose weight to join.  Since then my interest 
have changed and the focus of my life has changed to marriage and 
a family.  
Islam is not evil, weather or not its practitioners are.  Nor is 
it good.  Same is said for Christianity or Judahism, or any other 
religion.  They are neither good nor evil, they simply are.  I'm 
glad that they are finally letting afghan women back into schools 
over there.  I tell you I'd have to have gone to an all boys 
school.
And I wish to hear from a muslim on this question specifically.  
One who knows the Quran well.  Western media has played up the 
Islamic heaven as a place where there are sensual pleasures such 
as sex and booze.  What is it really supposed to be like?  Is 
this a correct view?  
Blessed be

From: Walter
To: om/cf
Date: Mon Mar 25 10:55:33 2002

Message:
http://insightmag.com/news/221967.html

 Help!It's hard to know what to believe,but it WAS clear that 
McVeigh wasn't telling half of what he knew.Not much effort to 
save himself,and that alone is kind of odd.

From: 3 punks at salem
To: assama your mama
Subject: ass whippin
Date: Mon Mar 25 12:00:35 2002

Message:
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From: Justice USA
To: All
Subject: Sista Sewer Rat
Date: Mon Mar 25 12:22:21 2002

Message:
If everybody would simply stop talking to this CUNT, maybe she 
would leave.  She obviously has found a home here.  FUCK THIS 
CUNT!   Hi Eagle,  Allatti, John, etc.  whatever happened to 
Spy, Radio Europe, etc.?  

From: Everyman
To: om/cf, Walter
Subject: Insight
Date: Mon Mar 25 12:18:38 2002

Message:
Thanks for the INSIGHT; did you read this one?
http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm?include=detail&storyid=158467

From: Everyman
To: U.K. Citizen
Subject: Test
Date: Mon Mar 25 12:52:48 2002

Message:
Hey, U.K.!  Took the 'test' and I'm standing right next to you--
flaming liberal...

From: Facts Finder
To: Sister, Franky, Rami or anyone.
Date: Mon Mar 25 12:54:22 2002

Message:
Come on, I have posted so many question, where is my answer. 
Please bear in mind I am not against Islam. I just want to know 
the answer. It is very sad that to see this happening in this 
world. I am very sad reading what is happening in Afghanistan. 
Did we release a monster that has been contain by another 
monster? I cannot get information about Arab or Muslim news. If 
anyone of you have news, please post it. I would like to read 
and learn.

Fair guy and atop the pole. I have reply and I hope you can 
answer me too.

This is not a challenge but it is the wonderful things we learn
from each other. Hope to hear from you guys.

Peace be with you all.

From: blarg
To: ALL OF YOU
Subject: DIE
Date: Mon Mar 25 13:27:17 2002

Message:
I KNOW WHERE YOU AFGHANS LIVE I WILL CRASH A PLANE INTO ALL OF 
YOUR HOUSES ONE AT A TIME

From:
To:
Date: Mon Mar 25 13:03:57 2002

Message:
WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMBING A HOAX


As with the  Holocaust  and the  Moon-Walk , evidence has come 
to light that the supposed  bombing  of the World Trade Center 
in New York is an intricate ploy, masterminded by the Jewish 
community, in yet another effort for world dominance.

It is common knowledge that the Jews began circulating rumors 
in 1942, that they were all being killed.

It is common knowledge that there really is no space flight; 
that by utilizing special effects and elaborate sets, the 
public was led to believe that astronauts had actually LANDED 
on the moon; hence would willingly financially support 
the  space  program, which is really a front for the Israeli 
bankers.  We all know they control the media, so it is no 
surprise that these same special effects and sets were 
transformed to con the world into believing that a horrendous 
tragedy occurred in the United States on September 11. 

What better way to fund a war than to have the common people 
accept as true, that their beloved trade center had met its 
demise?

 As far as those thousands running from the rubble, pictures of 
planes that were crashing, and towers falling?  Ask any 
Hollywood director how special effects are created. 

 We ve all seen the movies.  Along with the main characters and 
computer animations,     there are always paid and volunteer 
extras.

What better way to fund a war?



 

From: om/cf
To: blarg
Date: Mon Mar 25 14:00:52 2002

Message:
Ya may want to give the master plan a second look before 
starting. LOL!!

From: Amy
To: Blarg
Subject: sure dude
Date: Mon Mar 25 13:59:26 2002

Message:
How are you going to crash the plane into the rest of the houses 
after you do the first one?  I am not Afghani but it's really 
upsetting to hear people threatening others because of their 
ethnicity.  It's sad to know that, just like whites and blacks 
still have their differences today, this will be an issue for 
decades, maybe even longer.  Why must you waste your energy 
hating people when instead you could put it to better use?  

From:
To:
Date: Mon Mar 25 14:09:37 2002

Message:
ok, so if it was a hoax, what did they do with the trade 
centers?  Hide them?

From:
To:
Date: Mon Mar 25 12:18:38 2002

Message:
WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMBING A HOAX


As with the  Holocaust  and the  Moon-Walk , evidence has come 
to light that the supposed  bombing  of the World Trade Center 
in New York is an intricate ploy, masterminded by the Jewish 
community, in yet another effort for world dominance.

It is common knowledge that the Jews began circulating rumors 
in 1942, that they were all being killed.

It is common knowledge that there really is no space flight; 
that by utilizing special effects and elaborate sets, the 
public was led to believe that astronauts had actually LANDED 
on the moon; hence would willingly financially support 
the  space  program, which is really a front for the Israeli 
bankers.  We all know they control the media, so it is no 
surprise that these same special effects and sets were 
transformed to con the world into believing that a horrendous 
tragedy occurred in the United States on September 11. 

What better way to fund a war than to have the common people 
accept as true, that their beloved trade center had met its 
demise?

 As far as those thousands running from the rubble, pictures of 
planes that were crashing, and towers falling?  Ask any 
Hollywood director how special effects are created. 

 We ve all seen the movies.  Along with the main characters and 
computer animations,     there are always paid and volunteer 
extras.

What better way to fund a war?



 

From: om/cf
To: ?
Date: Mon Mar 25 14:09:12 2002

Message:
If you type or paste one word about the Easter Bunny not being 
real, thats it, the gloves are comin off!

From:
To:
Date: Mon Mar 25 14:17:42 2002

Message:
http://www.natvan.com/who-rules-america/

From: Justice
To: om/cf
Subject: above URL
Date: Mon Mar 25 14:58:39 2002

Message:
www.natvan.com
Wow.  I didn't know people were that stupid.  It is amazing how 
people believe certain conspiracy theories.  I like the one that 
states how the Jewish media ordered the overthrow of the Taliban 
government.  What a great imagination.  Sometimes I think some 
of the human population is too stupid to exist.  I am baffled 
more and more each day as to how we have come this far in 
society.

From:
To: anyone who can answer
Subject: the above URL
Date: Mon Mar 25 15:09:49 2002

Message:
http://www.natvan.com/who-rules-america/
"We must oppose the further spreading of this poison among our 
people, and we must break the power of those who are spreading 
it. It would be intolerable for such power to be in the hands of 
any alien minority, with values and interests different from our 
own. But to permit the Jews, with their 3,000-year history of 
nation-wrecking, from ancient Egypt to Russia, to hold such 
power over us is tantamount to race suicide. Indeed, the fact 
that so many White Americans today are so filled with a sense of 
racial guilt and self-hatred that they actively seek the death 
of their own race is a deliberate consequence of Jewish media 
control. "

The above passage is quoted from the afore mentioned web site.

First of all, let me say that everyone has different values and 
interests so that part of this message doesn't make much sense.  
Secondly, just WHO are the "alien minorities"?  Is it anyone 
who's not white, or just anyone who is not American?  Sounds to 
me as if it's anyone who is not a "white American".  Anyway, I 
do have a question.  What does everyone have againts Jews?  I 
don't know anything at all about them and I honestly wouldn't 
know if one walked up to me right now so I don't understand 
where all the animosity toward them comes from.  I have asked 
others before but have yet to recieve a legitimate and 
intellectual answer.  If someone would be so kind as to fill me 
in, or at least point me to a web site that would explain this, 
I would be grateful.

From: Everyman
To: Justice
Date: Mon Mar 25 15:19:31 2002

Message:
It IS amazing, isn't it?  
Makes one wonder...is it Evolution or DEvolution?

From: Walter
To: Justice
Date: Mon Mar 25 15:19:43 2002

Message:
When I first saw instructions on a book of matches,I began to be 
very frightened.And toothpicks.Required by law.
 Maybe our government figures we'll mistake them for gum, and eye 
cleaners?Souns funny,but for some,I guess,this might be imporant 
information.....

From: Walter
To: Everyman
Date: Mon Mar 25 15:35:01 2002

Message:
DEVOlution?
 They tell us that,we lost our tails,
 Evolving up,from little snails,
 I say its all,just wind in sails.

 I used to think the concept of de-evolution was kinda funny,but 
its a lot less funny than it used to be.

From: om/cf
To: Justice
Date: Mon Mar 25 15:20:25 2002

Message:
Believe it. There are a lot of people who will believe anything 
they are told. Not a ounce of comman sense in their noggins.