I have news that will shake the foundation of an american 
tradition. Burger King's tacos are better that Taco Bell's!

First off please excuse delayed replies, not always easy to find 
the time.

In reference to your reply, I read with some amusement your 
observations on old and persistant British internal rivalries. 
Sporting occasions certainly bring these to the surface, such 
events are substitutes for war which was probably why they were 
created. Nothing makes a Scot, Irishman or in indeed a Welshman 
happier than when they beat an English team,....nothing. They 
could come last in a tournament but if they happen to beat 
England along the way...to them, their job is done. By the way, 
were the words, paddy, taffy and jock amongst others, used on 
that other board you mentioned? Moving on swiftly...

I of course do agree, people must move on in their lives, but 
just to say the reason for my last post to you was simply to set 
the scene as it were. The great thing about this board and 
possibly others is that it's totally uncensored, whilst being 
available to all. People say technology brings with it as many 
ills as it does benefits, but one clear benefit is that people 
wherever they are can communicate directly with one another in 
an instant, making a nonsense of international boundaries. That 
may well be one of humanity's saviours in the long run, the fact 
that official bodies are circumvented so that people can 
communicate unhindered. My view on joining this board was that 
if people cannot connect emotionaly or intellectually on certain 
levels here, then we cannot blame our politicians that we elect 
to supposedly act on our behalf, for failing to do so either. I 
know you realise how important developments like this are.

As you say, hatred is passed on from generation to generation in 
various societies, especially in the middle-east. A well-known 
Scottish comedian over here noted the sectarian 
catholic/protestant rivalries he experianced that were 'handed 
down' through the years in his own country as being a 'disease'. 
That's one way of terming hatred, I guess. I don't care to take 
sides on the middle-east issue for instance, both sides in my 
opinion are quite happy to get everybody else involved in their 
dispute also. That's certainly one invitation I'd decline. That 
also goes goes for the so-called real I.R.A. who plant bombs in 
England to try to drag us all back into the fray.

The Bigger Picture.

I remember reading a rather cheerful post of yours talking about 
volcanoes and the reversal of the earth's polarity. I do recall  
watching a programme on that, stating that should it happen, 
every single device with an electrical circuit in existance 
would sieze to function. Not a nice prospect, that's quite apart 
from asteriod impact, gigantic basalt eruptions (which is one 
theory as to why the dinsonaurs may have died out), a switching 
off of the earth's oceanic conveyer, which may as one example, 
plunge Europe into an early ice-age. One could go on and on, but 
the point being people should be getting their priorities right. 
Humanity to this point has not been very good at planning ahead, 
we're all happy to take insurance out on our homes and vehicles, 
but collectively we haven't taken an insurance policy out on the 
planet as a whole. Fortunately there are still enough people 
with foresight who even when Sept 11 had occured were still 
planning the Mars missions for example. If anything at all comes 
out of that particular endeavour it'll surely be to teach us all 
to appreciate what we already have.

Violent natural events puts man's efforts into their true 
persprective. Even with the best personnel and rescue aircraft 
available there are limits as to what can be done to rescue 
those lost in stormy seas for instance. Already Britain is 
bracing itself for more frequent flooding to occur annualy due 
to climate change, and there's abolutely nothing that can be 
done to prevent or stop it now. These are the true challenges 
that face us all. Maybe too many people are frightened to face 
such challenges, pretend they'll go away, and just fight each 
other instead to take their minds off the prospect.

Maybe you'll agree, there has to be something that unifies, for 
a nation state it's a flag, a point clearly made at this years 
Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City. Globaly, I don't think 
religion in it's present forms will unite people from different 
nations. It may do regionaly, but not globally. Besides basic 
shared moral values, our environment and humanities relation to 
it is a common theme. We all have a vested interest in it, and 
it's well-being. Remember your 'buy stocks America' post. Well, 
a couple of years ago I put my money where my mouth is and 
placed investment capital into Environmental portfolios, ie; 
companies which had a clear and sympathetic policies with 
regards to the environment. I hope over time more and more 
companies follow suit. It was interesting that people in the 
weeks following Sept 11, wanted to escape from modern life for a 
while and get back to nature, go camping, fishing and the like. 
It was a form of sanctuary they felt could be relied upon to 
regenerate in some way. I know North America has some 
spectacular scenary, I've seen some of it first hand. You'll 
have to clarify as to whether your linking of druidic ideas and 
the environment constitutes itself as a belief system. I'd 
certainly advocate environmental awareness as a common unifying 
theme, but it's probably horses for courses as to how 
environmental concern is expressed in different countries. 
Modern life has almost completely divorced us from nature, Red 
Indians know it's true worth more than most as I'm sure you're 
aware. As you probably know many have turned their backs on 
organised religion as they feel it no longer reflects their 
lifestyle, aspirations or concerns.

It's interesting to observe how someone such as yourself can 
combine an awareness of nature with your profession, ie; gas 
guzzling super-bikes. Some, not me!..would say that's somewhat 
of a contradiction. I'd however say that 'balance' is the key. 
To have a deeply held belief in nature and it's connection to 
humanity, it naturally follows suit that any practitioner would 
therefore be assumed have to have a sandle-wearing hippy 
treehouse dweller lifestyle, in order not be a total hypocrite. 
I'd be rather curious as to your thoughts on that particular 
issue.:)

Not to venture down the spiritual avenue too much, there are 
many paths to get to the same goal, whatever we want that goal 
to be. To be a little more complete as a person, some study 
theology in great depth, some have deeply held religious beliefs 
and study to enhance such beliefs, others study martial arts to 
their highest degree which requires great self discipline and 
self awareness. Even those in specialist military units such as 
the S.A.S. and Navy Seals endure tests that push a person's 
character to its limits and beyond and in doing so, those who 
persevere loose any outward aggression because they have little 
left to proove either to themselves or to others. To use use a 
corny term they have 'mastered themselves'. In the end, that's 
the only battle worth fighting, all other supposedly important 
battles in life are won by default and without even realising 
it. Heavy stuff huh....

Don't know how much of the above relates to Sept 11, but it's 
interesting to talk about such things, every now and again. Most 
of the above was in broad reference to your reply to Friendly 
Arab. I'll try to to reply to your 'Solutions' post at some 
point, time allowing.                 

In a real short version, My Artistic endeavors are at this time 
a result of circumstance and passion. Having ridden since the 
age of 9 I have put over 100,000 miles behind me on street and 
dirt bikes. And as a woman in New York put it "it takes a golden 
hand". As a bloodline artist and a Mechanic, these simply came 
together as a good way to have a home-based business while I 
raise my son. 
  Personally Ecology is important, but moderation has always 
proven a better vehicle than any one direction. If I can save 
gas riding my bike vs. my truck. I do. And as I said before, 
riding is in my blood just like my art, so it goes. 
  During the last harmonic convergence, there were no electronic 
devices. So exactly what will happen is conjecture. But some 
very real assessments have been made, so I am planning to have a 
plot of high ground in up state New York as a summer home, 
should I need it. It is a place of complete natural beauty, on 
top of bald mountain just a mile from the Appalachian Trail. A 
small cabin sitting on a Lay line (if you are know what that is) 
with a spring fed pond right in front of it. The cabin overlooks 
a valley where the fog rolls through most mornings and the Dear 
dance in the fields every dusk. 
  As things progress I can certainly work on the convergence 
issue, seems the rest of this Islam mess is going to follow its 
course, as those head set on hate will die of it. One way or 
another, they give themselves no alternative. 
              Well on to my work
                Merlyn

http://www.cbsnews.com/now/story/0,1597,328802-412,00.shtml

 U.S. Set To Round Up Mideast Illegals 

Crackdown On Men Ignoring Deportation Orders To Begin Next Week 

There are an estimated 314,000 foreign nationals in the United 
States who have ignored deportation orders. The officials said 
the efforts will focus first on about 6,000 immigrants from 
countries that have harbored members of Osama bin Laden's al 
Qaeda network. 

Well have to send them back! like a bad gift at Christmas! Ha! 
on the love boat! Think...that is 314,000 jobs! We rightfully 
need here in our country. Perhapse we could make them use the 
money they earn to pay the love boat when they go! They can cry 
me a river!

"Is it a profiling? Of course it is," said James Zogby, 
president of the Arab American Institute. "Is it an effective 
law enforcement tool to deal with terrorism? Of course it's 
not." 


But of course Caucasion amercians in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and 
other such GOD forsaken lands arent profiled are they?  Surely 
they receive equal protection under the laws of those lawless 
lands.

Pffffftttt

Good to see you peeps keeping the board up to date!

i was behind the whole 911 thing
but no one swa me do it 
so ya cant prove nuthin
http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/01_25_02_vreeland.html

"They STARTED it!"

"Near Srinigar in the Happy Valley of Kashmir we find 
the legend of an extraordinary saint known to the Buddhists as 
St. Issa," says the monk. "Events in the life of Issa closely 
resemble that of Jesus Christ, revealing what are thought to be 
the lost years of our Lord." 

        
During his investigation of this "marvelous country," Notovitch 
learned that there existed in the library at Lhasa ancient 
records of the life of Jesus Christ. In the course of a visit to 
the great convent Himis, he located a Tibetan translation of the 
legend and carefully noted in his carnet de voyage over two 
hundred verses from the curious document known as "The Life of 
St. Issa." 

The legend recorded by Dr. Notovitch appears to be a collection 
of eyewitness accounts, a book of tales told by indigenous 
merchants arriving from Palestine where they had happened to be 
on business during the controversial execution of a man known as 
the "king of the Jews." This type of word-of-mouth news service 
is still popular in the fantastic bazaars of Calcutta and 
Bombay. 

        One of the narratives tells of an Israelite by the name 
of Issa, "blessed by God and the best of all," who was put to 
death by Pontius Pilate, the governor of Judea. Another detailed 
account traces the lineage of Issa and closely parallels 
Matthew's scrupulous chapter-one genealogy of Jesus Christ. 

        


        The earth has trembled and the heavens have wept because 
of a great crime which has been committed in the land of Israel. 

        For they have tortured and there put to death the great 
and just Issa, in whom dwelt the soul of the universe, 

        Which was incarnate in a simple mortal in order to do 
good to men and to exterminate their evil thoughts 

        And in order to bring back man degraded by his sins to a 
life of peace, love, and happiness and to recall to him the one 
and indivisible Creator, whose mercy is infinite and without 
bounds.... 

        At this time came the moment when the all-merciful Judge 
elected to become incarnate in a human being. 

        And the Eternal Spirit, dwelling in a state of complete 
inaction and of supreme beatitude, awoke and detached itself for 
an indefinite period from the Eternal Being, 

        So as to show forth in the guise of humanity the means 
of self-identification with Divinity and of attaining to eternal 
felicity, 

        And to demonstrate by example how man may attain moral 
purity and, by separating his soul from its mortal coil, the 
degree of perfection necessary to enter into the kingdom of 
heaven, which is unchangeable and where happiness reigns 
eternal. 

        Soon after, a marvelous child was born in the land of 
Israel, God himself speaking by the mouth of this infant of the 
frailty of the body and the grandeur of the soul. 

        The parents of the newborn child were poor people, 
belonging by birth to a family of noted piety, who, forgetting 
their ancient grandeur on earth, praised the name of the Creator 
and thanked him for the ills with which he saw fit to prove 
them. 

        To reward them for not turning aside from the way of 
truth, God blessed the firstborn of this family. He chose him 
for his elect and sent him to help those who had fallen into 
evil and to cure those who suffered. 

        The divine child, to whom was given the name of Issa, 
began from his earliest years to speak of the one and 
indivisible God, exhorting the souls of those gone astray to 
repentance and the purification of the sins of which they were 
culpable. 

        People came from all parts to hear him, and they 
marveled at the discourses proceeding from his childish mouth. 
All the Israelites were of one accord in saying that the Eternal 
Spirit dwelt in this child. 

        When Issa had attained the age of thirteen years, the 
epoch when an Israelite should take a wife, 

        The house where his parents earned their living by 
carrying on a modest trade began to be a place of meeting for 
rich and noble people, desirous of having for son-in-law the 
young Issa, already famous for his edifying discourses in the 
name of the Almighty. 

        Then it was that Issa left the parental house in secret, 
departed from Jerusalem, and with the merchants set out towards 
Sind, 

        With the object of perfecting himself in the Divine Word 
and of studying the laws of the great Buddhas.
 
    
According to the legend, Issa left his father's house secretly 
at age thirteen. He joined a merchant caravan and arrived in 
India "this side of the Sind" sometime during his fourteenth 
year. 

        Young Issa, the Blessed One, traveled south to Gujarat, 
through the country of the five streams and Rajputana, then on 
to the holy cities of Jagannath and Benares where Brahman 
priests taught him Vedic scripture. 

        Issa continued north into the Himalayas and settled in 
the country of the Gautamides, followers of the Buddha Gautama, 
where for six years he applied himself to the study of the 
sacred sutras. He left India in his twenty-sixth year, traveling 
to Persepolis, to Athens, to Alexandria. 

        Issa was twenty-nine when he returned to Israel--and 
reentered the familiar gospel of St. Luke, chapter three. His 
baptism by John in the river Jordan. 

        
... He passed his time in several ancient cities of India such 
as Benares. All loved him because Issa dwelt in peace with 
Vaishas and Shudras whom he instructed and helped. But the 
Brahmins and Kshatriyas told him that Brahma forbade those to 
approach who were created out of his womb and feet. The Vaishas 
were allowed to listen to the Vedas only on holidays and the 
Shudras were forbidden not only to be present at the reading of 
the Vedas, but could not even look at them. 

        Issa said that man had filled the temples with his 
abominations. In order to pay homage to metals and stones, man 
sacrificed his fellows in whom dwells a spark of the Supreme 
Spirit. Man demeans those who labor by the sweat of their brows, 
in order to gain the good will of the sluggard who sits at the 
lavishly set board. But they who deprive their brothers of the 
common blessing shall be themselves stripped of it. 

        Vaishas and Shudras were struck with astonishment and 
asked what they could perform. Issa bade them "Worship not the 
idols. Do not consider yourself first. Do not humiliate your 
neighbor. Help the poor. Sustain the feeble. Do evil to no one. 
Do not covet that which you do not possess and which is 
possessed by others." 

        Many, learning of such words, decided to kill Issa. But 
Issa, forewarned, departed from this place by night. 

        Afterward, Issa went into Nepal and into the Himalayan 
mountains .... 

        "Well, perform for us a miracle," demanded the servitors 
of the Temple. Then Issa replied to them: "Miracles made their 
appearance from the very day when the world was created. He who 
cannot behold them is deprived of the greatest gift of life. But 
woe to you, enemies of men, woe unto you, if you await that He 
should attest his power by miracle." 

        Issa taught that men should not strive to behold the 
Eternal Spirit with one's own eyes but to feel it with the 
heart, and to become a pure and worthy soul.... 

        "Not only shall you not make human offerings, but you 
must not slaughter animals, because all is given for the use of 
man. Do not steal the goods of others, because that would be 
usurpation from your near one. Do not cheat, that you may in 
turn not be cheated .... 

        "Beware, ye, who divert men from the true path and who 
fill the people with superstitions and prejudices, who blind the 
vision of the seeing ones, and who preach subservience to 
material things. "... 

        Then Pilate, ruler of Jerusalem, gave orders to lay 
hands upon the preacher Issa and to deliver him to the judges, 
without however, arousing the displeasure of the people. 

        But Issa taught: "Do not seek straight paths in 
darkness, possessed by fear. But gather force and support each 
other. He who supports his neighbor strengthens himself 

        "I tried to revive the laws of Moses in the hearts of 
the people. And I say unto you that you do not understand their 
true meaning because they do not teach revenge but forgiveness. 
But the meaning of these laws is distorted." 

        Then the ruler sent to Issa his disguised servants that 
they should watch his actions and report to him about his words 
to the people. 

        "Thou just man, "said the disguised servant of the ruler 
of Jerusalem approaching Issa, "Teach us, should we fulfill the 
will of Caesar or await the approaching deliverance?" 

        But Issa, recognizing the disguised servants, said, "I 
did not foretell unto you that you would be delivered from 
Caesar; but I said that the soul which was immersed in sin would 
be delivered from sin." 

        At this time, an old woman approached the crowd, but was 
pushed back. Then Issa said, "Reverence Woman, mother of the 
universe,' in her lies the truth of creation. She is the 
foundation of all that is good and beautiful. She is the source 
of life and death. Upon her depends the existence of man, 
because she is the sustenance of his labors. She gives birth to 
you in travail, she watches over your growth. Bless her. Honor 
her. Defend her. Love your wives and honor them, because 
tomorrow they shall be mothers, and later-progenitors of a whole 
race. Their love ennobles man, soothes the embittered heart and 
tames the beast. Wife and mother-they are the adornments of the 
universe." 

        "As light divides itself from darkness, so does woman 
possess the gift to divide in man good intent from the thought 
of evil. Your best thoughts must belong to woman. Gather from 
them your moral strength, which you must possess to sustain your 
near ones. Do not humiliate her, for therein you will humiliate 
yourselves. And all which you will do to mother, to wife, to 
widow or to another woman in sorrow-that shall you also do for 
the Spirit." 

        So taught Issa; but the ruler Pilate ordered one of his 
servants to make accusation against him. 

        Said Issa: "Not far hence is the time when by the 
Highest Will the people will become purified and united into one 
family." 

        And then turning to the ruler, he said, "Why demean thy 
dignity and teach thy subordinates to live in deceit when even 
without this thou couldst also have had the means of accusing an 
innocent one?" 

        From another version of the legend, Roerich quotes 
fragments of thought and evidence of the miraculous. 

        Near Lhasa was a temple of teaching with a wealth of 
manuscripts. Jesus was to acquaint himself with them. Meng-ste, 
a great sage of all the East, was in this temple. 

        Finally Jesus reached a mountain pass and in the chief 
city of Ladak, Leh, he was joyously accepted by monks and people 
of the lower class .... And Jesus taught in the monasteries and 
in the bazaars (the market places); wherever the simple people 
gathered--there he taught. 

        Not far from this place lived a woman whose son had died 
and she brought him to Jesus. And in the presence of a 
multitude, Jesus laid his hand on the child, and the child rose 
healed. And many brought their children and Jesus laid his hands 
upon them, healing them. 

        Among the Ladakis, Jesus passed many days, teaching 
them. And they loved him and when the time of his departure came 
they sorrowed as children. 

"And for their saying: we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of 
Mary, Messenger of Allah, and they killed him not, nor did they 
cause his death upon the cross, but he was made to appear to 
them as such. 
And certainly those who differ therein are in doubt about it. 
They have no knowledge about it but only follow a conjecture; 
and they did not kill him for certain: Nay, Allah exhalted him 
in his presence. 
And Allah is ever mighty and wise." 
- Quran, Al Nisa 4, 157-158 For a translation see Ali, Maulana 
Muhammad, translation and commentary, 
The Holy Quran - Arabic Text, Lahore, 1951 pp230-232. 

In all we see, Jesus did not die and his life among men was the 
definition of Gods will. By all accounts, Quran & Biblical. 
      With such understanding of social structure and the need 
for it to support family and womens role in it... does it not 
define the Taliban as Infidel?
         Merlyn 

Further; the five rivers of wisdom and the well of segail is a 
thread woven in Celtic mythos some 2000 years before Christ. 

http://www.proaxis.com/~deardorj/index.htm

"Behold the angel said: O Mary! Allah (God) gives you glad
tidings of a Word from Him, his name will be Messiah Jesus the
son of Mary, held in honor in this world and in the hereafter
and of the company of those nearest to Allah (God)  Quran 3:45 

Jesus was born of the Virgin Mary by a special command of Allah
(God). That command was BE, the same command given at the time of
the creation of Adam and Eve. Having conceived by the command BE,
Mary withdrew from her people to a remote place, a place of
privacy (for prayers and devotion). When she felt the time had
come to give birth, she sought refuge in an obscure place under
a palm tree where the birth of her son took place.

The voice of the angel called out to her, "Grieve not nor fear,
God has provided a stream of water for you. Shake towards 
yourself
the trunk of the palm tree; let fresh ripe dates fall upon you.
So eat and drink and cool your eye". Quran 19: 24-25 

He spoke in defense of his mother saying: "I am indeed a servant
of Allah (God). He has given me revelation and made me a Prophet
and He has made me blessed wherever I am and He has enjoined on
me prayer and charity as long as I live. He has made me kind
towards my mother. Has not made me arrogant, unblessed. Peace be
on me the day I was born, the day I shall die and the day I shall
be raised alive". "Such was the statement of Jesus son of Mary,
concerning which many (people) doubt". Quran 19: 30 34.

There is no doubt in the Muslim mind that Jesus was not crucified
but was taken up, bodily and alive. that he will eventually 
return.
We have it on the attestation of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), who
said under oath, "Just as sure as the sun rises in the East and
sets in the West, Jesus the Messiah will make an appearance at a
time when the world will be embroiled in an unprecedented 
conflict.
When the hour is come everyone will witness his coming".

That Jesus the Messiah will descend at the end time is not in 
doubt.
It is written in the Hadith (sayings ) of the Prophet Muhammed,
(peace be upon him)  what will happen when Jesus returns:

1. He will descend at the white minaret of the Ommaya Mosque on
the East Side of Damascus, wearing two garments of saffron 
colour,
with his hands resting on the wing tips of two angels.
2. He will proceed to the Mosque , it being the time of the 
Friday
prayer
3. He will join the Muslims in prayer, for like all Muslims Jesus
was circumcised, never ate pork and always preformed ablution
before prayer. He will stand in the last row, bow and prostate as
all Muslims do and as he was observed to have done before his
ascension.
4. Following the Friday prayer he will proceed to visit the tomb
of his cousin Yahya, (John the Baptist) who is buried in this
Mosque. He will no doubt offer prayers for his cousin who 
baptized
him in the Jordan River.
5. He will then call upon the believing people. Note the words
(believing people) to join with him in apprehending the Anti-
Christ
who is in Jerusalem. The Anti-Christ being made aware of the 
descent
of Jesus in Damascus will seek to escape from Jerusalem by 
fleeing
to a small village, Lud. Today Lud is the site of the 
International
Airport outside of Tel-Aviv. He will no doubt seek to escape to 
the
United States. 
6. Jesus (pbuh) and his followers will intercept him. Having
confronted the Anti-Christ, with his false identity, claiming to
be the Messiah sent to the Jews. Jesus will expose him as the
Impersonator that he is. His reign as an Impersonator will come
to a dramatic and sudden end.

The Jews having lauded the Anti-Christ as their Messiah and 
having
witnessed his apprehension, will shamefully, after two thousand
years or more admit to Jesus as being the True Messiah Those
among the Jews who refuse to accept Jesus as being the Messiah
will suffer the same fate as the Anti-Christ,

With the apprehension of the Anti-Christ a period of upheaval
will no doubt ensue. This may well be the anticipated 'Battle
of Armageddon on the plains of Esdraelon. The battle will be
between the Believers and the Unbelievers. The believers under
Jesus will be triumphant.

Jesus (pbuh) will then set about to complete his mission. He will
reprove those among his followers who have exalted him, a 
Messenger
and Servant of God, to the status of God. He will also destroy 
the
Myth of the Cross, that portrays him as having been crucified.

The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is reported to have said, "Life of
plentifulness will be beyond words after Jesus descension. The
sky will be directed to pour down rain and the earth to furnish
her fruit until a seed will be able to take root on a stone.
Peace and comfort will prevail to the extent that a lion will
pass by a human without causing the least injury. Malice and
ill-will will be unknown.

Its a good collection of short stories written by ordinary men, 
just like the Bible.

Yes indeed, they started it. I just get annoyed with catch 
phrases. I would like to hear the President say 'OK. Here is a 
list of the asses we are going to kick and next to each you will 
find the reason'. But nothing gets the point across and keeps it 
in mind like a snappy jingle.

To Om/Cf, Merlyn, UK Citizen, Franky, Friendly Arab.

I notice that there are many other interesting subject from 
other post not in this group. All the time I thought it was the 
same.

Did you guys read the message about Jesus from this person in 
our group who did not Identify himself or herself, below is my 
reply.


Why don't you identify yourself. You give a very interesting 
post. I believe a number of us would like to find out more about 
your understanding of Jesus and the Bible.

 So I noticed what is said in the Bible and the Quran about 
Jesus are quite similar except that you think that through years 
the bible, has been corrupted by Isreal and some of the text has 
been change to favour Isreal.

So Jesus is the most powerful prophet of all time. You agree? He 
was born by a command BE given to Mother Mary through an angel 
of GOD, No other prophet was born this way. Agree? All was 
conceived by marriages of two human being. Right? So he is not 
ordinary prophet it is GOD HIMSELF revealing to us in the form 
of human and was conceived from a virgin and he is call the 
Messiah and he will come and give judgement on the last day.

As you say, that the Bible might be corrupted by Isreal, this 
goes the same way as the Quran. Who knows 632 years after Jesus 
a new teaching (Islam) was born through the teaching of Mohammed 
but was it all from him? or was it corrupted by human too.

Even in Christianity and Islam these days there so many division 
in it teaching all these are because of WE, human disagreement 
with each other view but most important as I mention many times 
it is ourselves by our example, by our love, by our 
understanding, by our patience, by our forgiveness that the 
teaching of GOD reveal himself.

If I am a Muslim and I follow all the can and cannot the Quran 
required me to do but I do not care for others especially the 
non believers. You think as you say when Jesus (in Quran) as you 
mention will accept me or will he accept a Christian who has be 
worshipping him and doing all the good things including fogiving 
his enemy and the non believers?

 It is for us to show the non believers that there is a GOD who 
loves us and through our behavior not by our force to guide them 
with patience and love not by threaten and murder.

Come back to your comment. Even if the Holy Bible is corrupted 
as you say. It doesn't teach you to kill, commit suicide, 
revenge, or calling the non believers names, (in Indonesia an 
Imam call the non muslims worse than animals, he is now under 
investigation for his link to al queda..) In Christianity these 
Non believers are call the lost sheep and the shepherd will find 
ways to look for them patiencely before the wolf get to them.

So as I say you found your GOD through Mohammed (Islam), I found 
mine through Jesus Christ (Christianity). Let us all pray  
together to GOD that he will bring Justice to world and Good 
rule over evil. Let his power shine on all those who teaches 
loves to bring peace and stabality to the world and may his 
teaching enlighten us all with knowledge of love, care, share, 
understanding, forgiveness so that we may show to our family, 
friends, neigbour and people around the world including the non 
believers what it means and what we can gain from it.

May God bless you and your love ones.

Oh before I forget, I am a lost sheep too but my shepherd found 
me. I will try not to run out of line from my master again.

I was a Romantic Catholic, now I am a Roman Catholic

Oh my! my wool is all a mess & I can't seem to get myself ready 
for church! BAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa! 
 But seriously if we see ouselves in the light of god and by his 
divine inspiration be his image.........Why We fuckin up so 
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaD?

Now it was just here...by the stone! Only just a muineet agoo!
It was that damn goat! he ate it! oh no! my wholly book ! 
  Well I will just have to sit down on this rock & think a bit.
Ahhhhh! the great Angel...wait, no don't pee on m.....
  Ahhh! divine inspiration! I seeeeeeeeeee!
Now I am happy! I can write a new book! Here we go again!

I was the lost sheep and also always do not find time for 
church. Now through the love and caring by my shepherd. I am 
always looking forward to visit him in church. Let the shepherd 
find you and groom you too.

If you were to follow my earlier post. You will understand. I am 
a succesful businessman have a big house drive a big merc and 
everthing was going so well for me. Have affairs outside my 
marriage. Goes to church when I feel convenient. Then it happen. 
I was struck with cancer and through my stubboness I did not 
seek GOD, I look for a lot of cure around the world for years 
until the last moment when I was admitted in our Hospital unable 
to even sit and was told I have only 3 months to live with 4th 
stage of cancer and only 10 percent chances of survival. During 
that time I get closer to GOD and did not fear of dying. I 
survived and live to tell people and guide them closer to GOD. 
The rest is history.

So you are still a healthy sheep, look for your shepherd. God 
Bless

I am going to sit down on the porcalin throne and write the 
holiest book ever. It will even have cuss words and stories of 
hookers to keep the readers interest. It will even have pictures 
of the main characters and a centerfold of the most famous event.
The Holy Orgy.

Apparently the petition went away after 248 signatures in 2-4 
weeks. Thanks to all who contributed to its death.

229. Imma Gew: Fry the boy! Oiy! 

228. Justice: I poop on your petition 

226. Clint: I am not signing the petition, I am actually taking 
a piss on it 

116. Abdul Haqq: He's a damn disease and gives us a bad name 
kill him and let him die quickly. His death will pay for the 
death of Mr. Pearl. 

69. omcf: Free johnny or else his rectum will be sore in prison. 
Donate Vasoline to the cause 

60. Shadowhawk: May his death come the hands of survivors from 
NYC 

50. Spy: Free the pig with a hollowpoint bullet in his head 

47. open minded american: Yes. Release John immediatly so real 
Americans can bring our Jihad to his front door. LOL! 

Been a while, when you left...one by one others eventually 
followed suit. How've you been? Let me know. Suppose you're 
going to say this is just a fleeting visit? At least don't make 
that a one off post will ya! How's life in the construction 
business nowadays?

Ahh..so many questions. 

Anyway, your last post, double standards and two-faced talk. 
Plenty of that going around no doubt. Of course absolutely no 
profiling involved when it came to Richard Pearl. Quite. 

Om/cf and Merlyn have really been...'holdin' it down' here.

Hope to hear from you.  

I thought you might find this intresting reguarding those who 
will be making the pilgramage to Mecca. Perhaps the USAF might 
offer their services to provide air support over Mecca?

Malaysian terror suspect s RP contacts on Interpol list

By Rey Arquiza, The Philippine Star 02/10/2002 

Immigration authorities have uncovered a large terrorist 
operation that uses Manila as a jumping board to other countries 
in Southeast Asia. 

The discovery was made during a tactical interrogation of a 
suspected Malaysian terrorist arrested on Friday at the Ninoy 
Aquino International Airport (NAIA) while he was about to board 
a Kuwaiti Airlines plane bound for Kuwait via Bangkok, Thailand. 

Investigation showed that some of the contacts in the 
Philippines given by the suspect, Azmi bin Salleh, 36, were on 
the International Police (Interpol) s list of terrorists. 

Immigration agents and airport police found in Bin Salleh s 
possession 104 questionable passports and $57,250, purportedly 
payment for Saudi visas for his clients who want to join the 
annual pilgrimage to Mecca. 

I just wanna know who it was we blew up with a hellfire misile a 
few days back. The media speculation that it might, possibly, 
could maybe have been UBL is such bullshit and I wish these 
jerks would stop.  Rumsfeld said it well early on: "We don't 
know where he is.  When we get him, we'll let you know." That's 
good enough foir me (The part about leting me know, not the part 
about not knowing where he is).

So the Taliban (or Taleban to you, UK Cit) foreign minister 
turned himself in.  Maybe it's just me, but I don't trust this 
bastard.  I don't trust any of these bastards.

Watched the Olympics opening Ceremonies. For about five 
minutes.  Don't wanna sound unpatriotic or anything, but it just 
bored the shit outta me.

My girls finally got their Harrod's Christmas Bears, so I guess 
now X-mas is officially over.

As far as Zogby and profiling goes: Agree with the first part. 
Of course it's profiling.   Second part is irrelevant as far as 
I'm concerned.  It's just enforcing the law.  If these people 
are not supposed to be here, they can get the hell out.  If it 
so happens that there is a terrorist or two in their midst whom 
we kick out, all the better, of course.  But how can anybody 
object to the law being enforced ?

First off, nice Python sketch thrown in there, even if it was 
minus John Cleese. That guy who shared that spacious shoe box in 
the middle of the road, just what has he got to complain 
about?..I mean really!

You mentioned timing regarding Iraq, as you may have read 
elsewhere since, the  U.S. military are finalising plans to be 
given to Mr.Bush within the month, described by one official 
as "America's most extensive war plan since the Second World War"

It gives priority to finishing off al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. 
Somalia, Sudan and Yemen continue to be suggested targets of 
military action, in order to deny al-Qaeda members safe havens.

Military action aimed at ousting Saddam Hussein from control of 
Iraq, while seen as urgent, would not begin until the end of 
this year at the earliest. "The plan is to run fairly extensive 
preparations, then give Saddam one last chance." said an 
official closely allied with the Pentagon. "This is in 
the 'urgent but not desperate' class."

It goes on to say, Dick Cheney, the U.S. vice-president, is to 
make his first trip aboad since taking office, with stop overs 
in 11 middle-eastern countries. Mr Cheney will begin with two 
days in Britain for talks with Mr.Blair. "That's important, to 
make clear that we see eye to eye," said one administration 
official. Another said: "We will continue to work very closely 
with Blair."

Colin Powell, told Congress last week the President was 
considering a "regime change" and "the most serious set of 
options one might imagine" for dealing with Saddam.

He said Mr.Bush was prepared for America to do it alone if 
necessary. Diplomats from the region have been quietly telling 
Washington the Arab governments are likely to acquisece in 
action against Saddam, and might well applaud it, so long as 
they are confident that the Iraqi dictator is toppled as a 
result.

Some Pentagon officials are saying that troops may be needed 
inside Afghanistan until the end of this year, reducing the 
scope for a large campaign elsewhere.

www.telegraph.co.uk

-----------

That last paragraph fits in to what you were saying about having 
U.S. troops still around whilst British, Italians and others try 
to restore and maintain order.

As you say, one can't help but profile in the circumstances that 
prevail. Retinal scanners are coming into vogue. 
Foolproof..supposedly. Over here there was a serious airport 
security lapse, with fake weapons being able to be smuggled on 
board a flight. It is said gun parts can be hidden within 
cameras, to then be re-assembled piece by piece. As you probaby 
know airlines have banned metalic cutlery, in preference for 
plastic. The thing is, anybody could travel on board wearing a 
pair of glasses, snap them in half and they can be just as 
leathal in the wrong hands.

EagleEye: Correction Daniel Pearl...scuse me.

Thanks for the message, yes I am from this part of the world and 
we get all these news. There were also a number of arrest in 
Singapore, Malaysia and Indonesia but those in Indonesia were 
release after investigation same as in Palestine. The Singapore 
arrest was with the help of info from American when they found 
document of plan to bomb the transit train which carries a local 
and foreigner mainly American to a shipyard where they are 
working. That bad, even in such peaceful country where the 
people live in racial harmony we also have these radical who was 
going to bomb the train.

Message should read locals and foreigners and not a local and 
foreigner. Sorry

GOOD BLESS AMERICA!
FUCK BINLADEN!

Even the most recent example of the man who "got the axe" shows 
the fact that the airlines just barely manage the task. Any fool 
could just freak from being up in a plane, let alone a trained 
terrorist planning to use everyone on board as kidnap victoms. 
Given the balance between greed and common sense, it is a 
obvious case where unfortunately, government regulation really 
must step in. One would think that the airline would care 
enough, but with one company managing another and planes just 
being pawns in an accountants peanut game, nothing is really 
getting done. 
Business structure and constant scabbing and things like Enron 
are a direct result of letting big buisness screw around with 
the lives of workers and citizens. This also the result of a 
visa system that is not responsably following up on it's 
obligation. 
   As far as going after Sad Saddam, blessed be. But there is a 
grand scale of ground work that had best be in line long before 
we smear that cheese all over iran. Kewait will be a stomping 
ground along with even their own country, just "to burn the 
crops before the invasion" Nothing here is new, infact it all 
smells like a rotten peice of limburger! 
  A point to point operation can take out all this crap in a 
matter of a few short weeks if the planning is done correctly. 
We are best served by "just do it" as if we have public opinion 
as any measure of our action we might just as well eat that 
rotten cheese and barf once again a usless campeign with 
election hopes and American terrorism splayed far and wide as 
our only true objective. 
  Oy!

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/STRIKE_MAIN.html

Biological Material
Investigators Find Some Sort of Remains Near Site of Missile 
Attack

Feb. 10   U.S. forces searching the remote scene of a U.S. 
missile attack Monday in eastern Afghanistan have 
found "biological material," which might possibly include human 
remains, ABCNEWS has learned.

ABC News reported on Sunday that the soldiers had found skin, 
blood, hair and perhaps other body parts from whoever was killed 
at the site.

Sheep Jokes -    Really funny stuff!
Are they all in Baaaaaaaaad taste? :-)

Hey Sheep guy, you funny!
you keep going on being a sheep,
lost or found.

I hear they really like sheep and goats over there...

As for the rest of us, well...
we will be men,
and you can be the sheep.




And the sheep, well...
you know what happens to them,
they get shorn,  
(please give your last two pennies to the church!)
or sheep get slaughtered... 
(Jahad, Crusades, Uprisings, - all total B.S.)
mint jelly with your mutton anyone?

Remember Jim Jones Sheep?

How about David Koreshes Sheep?

How about the little Hebrew sheep being rounded up in Israel?

Or their local native targets, sheep dead in the streets?

And the Catholic & Muslim Sheep for Crusades?







If you are gonna pick an animal
for your animality form,
pick something a little bit smarter and stronger.


Stupid Sheep smell bad and get worms & fleas.








Next time some one tells you to be a sheep,
say to them :

'No, I am a Man. 
 I am your equal. 
 You have no power over me, 
 I am not your livestock. 
 I think you need glasses, buddy!'








And when they try to shore you 
('Give till it hurts')
Tell them to try getting a day job
like you have yourself.

They can still preach on Sunday, 
let them earn their own
pay, like everybody else.

It can be there 'service to God'
and help them
'Minister to the community,'
'reaching people where they are.'
Amen Jesus Christ!

(Even he was a carpenter, 
 and his pals tent makers and
 fishermen.)


It's not like they write a new Bible or Qurahan or Talmud
every week...
They really don't have to do a lot to keep up with it...
It kinda just sits there...not much changing with it.

Meditating doesn't involve heavy lifting...
so they should be able to pray and drive a car,
so they can be Taxi drivers or Truck Drivers...

They can pray and cook food too - feeding the hungery...
Burger King and Taco Bell are always hiring...


Or do you like sending your hard earned money to Italy?
(There is a fine upstanding model country to copy.)

Ya pal, 
they are laughing all the way to the bank...
convincing people all over the planet,
to fork over 10% of their wages... 
Damn...
What a scheme, 
everybody should make up a religion like that.


Those professional religion types.
(don't matter what religion)
They got it made, 
they talk for a few hours a week,
not a bad job if you can get it.

Of course they are thanking god!
They got it made - you go out and work,
try to pay your taxes and bills and housing
and food and everything...
and they basically collect off of you,
and kick back and relax.


Nice job.  
Snow Job that is.

Do you Sheep like snow?

I guess they are pulling the wool over your eyes...

Baaa Baaa Baaa

Sheep are dumb, and if you let somebody call you
dumb, and you believe you are dumb,
and you hand your money over to them,
and thank them for treating you like a moron,
then I guess they are right,
you are kinda dumb...
dumb like a sheep.


Oh, you're gonna be late for church!
Remember to take your money to
put in the collection plate.

God can't do for himself, you gotta help god!
He made the whole universe, now
he's run a little short on cash,
so god needs you to give him your cash.

And the nice men in the church building...
well, they just deposit it for him,
in his checking account in Heaven!
(maybe you should ask for the direct deposit number for god?)

God is Love
God is Free

Let Freedom Ring!
Let Freedom Ring!

God Bless America!

and no, he don't send ya a bill for his blessings,
no invoice on holiness...
no C.O.D. for the G.O.D.
think about it.


AMEN! 

:-)

In my last reply to you, I didn't realise I'd already made some 
reference to your 'solutions' post. I kind of refer to posts 
from memory at times. Still, regarding communication...nothing 
wrong with that, the more one communicates the more one 
understands, generally speaking. But, at this point, how many 
people from different parts of the world really WANT to 
communicate? Possibly not enough as yet. As you realise I'm 
sure, these boards have been set up for people to vent their 
anger in the main. Reading them over the weeks a lot of it's 
pretty amusing, even when people are having a go at each other. 
But, it's not really communicating. Assuming the tone of those 
who post here are at least friendly and reasonable, I think it's 
admirable that people respond in kind. Rather disappointingly, 
there's not a lot of humour to be found in people being civil to 
other, hence Get a Grip!, I suppose.

I wouldn't be naive enough to think, anything can be solved on 
this board. It's probably not what it's for. It's certainly a 
start, with more people with the access and ability to use the 
internet, I'm sure other sites across the web will have more 
people communicating ideas as we are. It'll probably be a slow 
process as most things in life tend to be. The fact that someone 
had to use the handle "Friendly Arab" not to get verbal beating 
indicates there's a fairly long way to go at this stage, that's 
of course taking into account the prevailing and quite 
understandable circumstances regarding terrorism and who is 
carrying it out at present.

Your druid beliefs and predictions are most certainly a 
different angle on things. As you say people don't necessarily 
see events in the terms you describe, and that probably looses a 
few in the telling. I realise though you're attempting to put 
your predictions in some sort of context. From what little I 
know of lay lines, they're basically natural electro-magnetic 
lines of force. Aztec and Egyptian temples along with other 
places of worship have been placed along them over the years, 
from what I've read.

Well from what you've predicted so far, one hopes nations and 
individuals start to work together, just a little bit more than 
they have been so far. There's an opportunity to cut the supply 
of opium in the coming years down to very low levels at the very 
least, if sufficient investment is applied over the next few 
years. As I said before, that of course shouldn't just be the 
U.S., but every other nation that can afford it. They should 
also pay their fair share too. The future pay-offs probably 
include less drug abuse and crime in the west, decent living 
standards for the locals in region, one less flashpoint between 
east and west, as well as the U.S. and Russia, plus one less 
place for religious/political extremists to hide and operate 
from in the future. You gave an optimistic prediction a while 
back which I commented on. As you say...we shall see. Long way 
to go yet of course, what with other pariah nations in the 
spotlight at present. What with Iraq and all that may follow. 

I checked out a few Iraqi websites, one of them with Saddam 
apparantly celebrating the anniversary of "the mother of all 
battles". Unbelievable. He obviously thought he'd won that one!  

Hope you get a little piece and quite in upstate N.Y., sounds 
like a great area, and good luck with the converging. Oy!       

Monty Python was great! Now the question begs to be asked. What 
about Benny Hill? Any comedian that can make you laugh with a 
simple facial expression is special. John Bulushi was a master 
at this also.
 I read something the other day in reguards to the English 
language and immigrants in Britian. I was in a rush, and havent 
seen anymore about it. It is probably a similar reaction to here 
in the U.S. If they are going to call our country home, learn to 
speak the language.
 Just yesterday, in a Walgreens Drug store, the checkout clerk 
could not speak anything but Spanish. A customer in front of me 
became extremly pissed off, and I could not blame him or the 
clerk. When the manager came over to handle the situation, I let 
the manager know what the situation was and what I thought about 
it. The clerk started crying, the manager was trying to explain 
how he was REQUIRED to hire with no reguard to speaking the 
English language. Im glad I didnt think of Benny Hill at that 
moment or I would have pinched her ass and batted my eyes with a 
smile!

Britain had a perfectly good natural barrier once, called the 
English Channel. As far as Britain's Channel Tunnel's concerned, 
a lot of us are wishing we'd never built the damm thing. It's a 
real problem now. Gangs of hundreds of illegals are literally 
storming the entrance on the French side, despite the security. 
Parashute Regiment troopers are being drafted in to stop things 
from worsening on the English side. As a result of the chaos 
many arrive knowing the words "political asylum" and "social 
security"...that's about it. The U.K. has always had a fine 
reputation and tradition for taking in genuine asylum seekers 
who are in fear of loosing their life, which should continue. 
Nowadays though way too many are bogus. Aside from those, others 
come in on visas quite legally, settle into so-called 'minority 
communities', and probably never have to speak a word of english 
for the rest of their life. It really does depend on where you 
go. London's got an ever growing ethnic population, as have 
other cities. Unlike the U.S. there are no citizenship 
requirements as such, learning the basics of the constitution, 
alliegence to the flag..that sort of thing. I actually don't 
even know if learning english is an official requirement for 
geniune immigrants, let alone illegals. That's how messed up 
things are getting! The acid test of course is taxi cabs, our 
official black cabs in London have exclusively english speaking 
drivers. But the private companies, that's more of a lottery as 
to whether you'll converse easily with any of them. I do hope 
some basic rules are brought in, whereby people HAVE to learn 
english. You feel if that doesn't happen... a lot of problems 
are going to occur down the line that could well have been 
avoided, if people had just given it some thought.

Regarding that 'Benny Hill moment' you experianced, I do hope 
you seized it and looked back at the long line of bikini clad 
ladies chasing right behind you. You must have got to that shop 
in a hurry, Benny Hill sketches normally run at three times 
natural speed. He liked his country music, "Ernie...and he drove 
the fastest milk cart in the West"..if you didn't ever hear that 
song...count yourself lucky! Jim Carey's a favourite of mine, 
ever since he did a fantastic impression of William Shatner as 
Cptn.Kirk. Priceless.

Has it stopped snowing where you are? Haven't checked the 
weather there lately. If it is, good to be in the snowmobile 
business right now, I guess. Take care.            

Belushi was great that way. Especially with the eyebrows.  I 
think that store manager is being given bogus info.  At l;east I 
hope so.  Look, I can see some jobs where you shouldn't give a 
shit what language tyhe person speaks as long as they give an 
honest days work.  But somebody who deals with the public, like 
a checkout peson, HAS to be able to habla the ingles. And I hope 
to God it's not illegal to require that. But I got that shit 
from an Indian/Paki at McDonald's last night.  First she almost 
let an Indian/Paki kid cut the line in front of me, but I 
yelled: "'SCUSE ME!!".  So the bitch gets me my stuff but was a 
real bitch about it.

Anyway. stil wonder who the dead guys are. I've alraedy rerad 
reports that the locals say they were just other locals.  Oh 
well, then tough shit. Better luck next time. But I don't 
believe anything an Afgahni says.

Ditto Monty Python.

Never had the pleasure of visiting New York as yet. I've been to 
the original Jersey, (the English Channel version), but never 
New Jersey. Have to tell ya, the Mafia have Jersey all sown up:) 
What's the general mood in your home town nowadays? As a native 
N.Y.er, got any thoughts on what should be done with the Trade 
Centre site after it's finally cleared. Some say a memorial 
park, others say rebuild, is there any consensus emerging one 
way or the other? Have you got a preference? Don't know too much 
about that missile story, a little baffling...the thought of bin 
Laden being hit directly by a missile, I wouldn't have believed 
even if it had happened. It would have been just too good to be 
true. 

DTOM, Om/cf, All: Didn't catch too many of Belushi's movies, 
except Animal House...pretty good at a zit impression too 
though, if memory serves...hard to forget moments like those.
  

Pardon me for not responding to your posts on religion. Know 
that I respect your beliefs, and your quest for knowledge on 
religious matters. I know and appreciate you have good reasons 
for being religious, I my friend, have equally good reasons for 
being non-religious. However, general topics aside from religion 
specifically, I'm quite happy to respond to.

Keep well.

I can understand, you are partly right and wrong. Yes you can 
pray with your heart anywhere. If you go to church every Sunday 
without your heart than you better don't go.

Yes we give some money, any amount not every Sunday, and we are 
not force to do so, you can go for free too without paying a 
cent. It is up to you. Not the 10 percent as you mention. That 
is for working Muslim in my country.

The priest get a very small amount of allowance. In my country 
when you left school and get of job immediately, you are paid 
around $1,000+ The priest are paid any allowance of $300. I give 
my college going daughter $500. These people have given 
themselves to GOD. They are not allow to marry, they have 
sacrifice their freedom. It is not only preaching every Sunday. 
They sometime have to go to visit the sick, give spiritual 
lesson and etc. It is not an easy job as you mention. That is 
why it is very difficult to find someone who can do this. I know 
some priest who are qualified, doctors, lawyers, architect and 
so on. They are men chosen by GOD.

Yes I am a sheep with wool all over my eyes because I stray away 
from my shepherd and got mess up. Now I found my master and he 
had groom me. This is just a shepherd and his sheep story as an 
example.If it is for real. You can say at the end the shepherd 
is going to shave me bald. Heheheee.

We can be fishes too and definitely we are men. All of us are 
his, he can take away anytime. Trust me.

No, again we are not force to build the church. We build it on 
our own will, at our own ability in finance. Can be just a 
dollar or a few Million and the seat are not reserved for anyone 
who pay more.

It is nice to know that you are praying on your own too. Keep it 
up. One day, you might just get the call like me. Have a great 
day. God Bless you and your family. Take Care

It is Ok, I was just reply to some who post that sort of 
messages. The subject of religion can always lead to long 
debate. As I mention many times I not preaching. I have found my 
GOD. It is up to you.

Just reply when you feel some of my message need some comment, 
critism or support. Take Care and God Bless.

Off to celebrate our New Year Celebration. Nanu Nanu

BAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! you are mean to poor sheeeeeeeeeeep! You 
probably hurt poor little Sheeeeep! I hope I gave you a 
BaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaD Dasese! or at least the Craaaaaaaabs!
You fuck with the sheep you wake up with the craaaaaaaaaabs!

Little Johnny's kindergarten class was on a field trip to F.B.I.
headquarters where they saw pictures tacked to a bulletin board 
of the
10 most wanted men.

One of the youngsters pointed to the picture on top and asked if 
it
really was the photo of Osama Bin Laden.

"Yes," said the agent.  "The bureau wants him very badly."

So Little Johnny asked, "Why the f--k didn't you keep him when 
you
took his picture?"

If you are ever in Chicago and have to take a taxi remember 
this golden rule. The second you get in, let the non-English 
speaking driver know that you mean business right off the bat! 
They will always try to screw ya over.
 What really gets me in the U.S. is how some immagrants use the 
dual language situation to their advantage. For instance: When 
pulled over while driving by the police, they dont know a word 
of English. Interpertors have to be called to a traffic stop for 
a simple speeding ticket. I have a cousin who is a city police 
officer here and you would not believe the 'language barrier' 
problems the have to deal with. Apparently, they are not allowed 
to hit em with a billy club and say 'start speaking ENGLISH'!

Im not putting much faith into the reports of who may have been 
killed last Monday. We have been down the dead bin Lucifer road 
too many times now. But I dont believe that poor Afghan scrap 
metel hunters were driving SUV's either. Time will tell.

I saw a picture of the Palistinian fat woman celebrating the 
Sept. 11 attacks with her tongue hanging out and all. In the 2nd 
picture she was on the ground with a Isreali tank parked on her 
chest! I'll see if I can hunt that site up again.

I am here in the pit left by the $1,000,000.00 bomb that splayed 
me across 20 acres of Afghani sand! They are taking DNA samples 
just to be sure it's me! I can't sing right now, my vocal coards 
are about a mile from my mouth!

http://www.afghansas.com/LadensLament.asp

A father and his young son were walking by the WTC site 20 years 
after the terrible attacks. The little boy asked his father what 
the site was. The father told him that 20 years ago some 
teroist  arabs had destroyed them, and many innocent people had 
lost there lives. The boy looked up at his father and 
asked, "daddy, whats an Arab?".

http://www.madblast.com/oska/humor_warnings.swf

http://www.afghansas.com/OTaliban.asp

http://afghansas.com/Radio_Top40.asp

http://afghansas.com/song.asp

http://www.bobandtom.com/gen3/index.htm
 
   Lullabye - Stephen Lynch 
   Mama's Got Her Boobs Out - Rodney Carrington  

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A57210-
2002Feb11.html

Iranians Rally Against United States 

In a speech interrupted by chants of "Death to America!" Khatami 
said U.S. foreign policy bore responsibility for the Sept. 11 
terror attacks on New York and Washington.
=================================================================

Nope! No evil or bad intentions there. If the plan of the 'evil 
axis' thing was to see who had some things weighing on their 
consience, it worked.

Mr. President Bush! You must remove the evil axis at once! It is 
very very baad! You see I cannot sit anymore for the evil axis 
is firmly planted up my ass! You must remove it right away! 
Alalalah says so! 

Waz up ya
I'm proud to be muslim and ya don't like muslim, because u ain't 
got a christan pride . We muslims r gonna take over killa all 
muslim haters with one shot in their head . Ya Americans don't 
even know what it is to be in a war, because all of ya just sit 
at home eat eat eat eat get fat like mothafuckaz and do some 
otha shit . We muslims live by strict rules that's why we 
muslims stick togehter like brothers . But ya christan fuck each 
otha up . So respect what i'm bout MUSLIM 4 LIFE Nigga

Let us look back on some recent history. The Taliban, the 
strictest of Muslims, fought hard for a couple weeks. But they 
can blame all of that fasting for depleting their strength Im 
sure. 

You will have to excuse me, the Papa Johns pizza guy is at the 
door!

What Ashcroft said! Word.

Yeah, the mob's all over.  Sometimes I wonder if our war against 
terror isn't going to go the way of the war against the mob.  
Our Gov't has gone to extraordinary lengths to "beat organized 
crime>"  Lotsa people ("folks" as our Prez sez) in jail. And ya 
know what?  Organized crime is still all over.  That's why I 
said from the beginning of this War On Terrorism that we just 
have to kill as many of these bastards as we can.  I'm not 
vengeful, but they've gotta be taken outta circulation.  It 
occurs to me, though that Israel has been playing tit-for-tat 
for years.  No end in sight.  They even have women blowing 
themselves up. But yeah, we'll see about this hellfire missile.  
Even if it wasn't senior al-Queda, it was good practice, no ? I 
live in New Jersey, UK Cit. but went to high school in Manhattan 
and spent lotsa time in college hanging out at Fordham, NYU and 
to a lesser (much lesser) extent, Columbia.  Everyday I went to 
school in high school, I went through the World Trade Center.  
It wasn't even finished yet.  The Twin Towers were, but not the 
shopping area.  I just can't believe it's all gone and there are 
1,000's of dead people there.  But I don't think there's much of 
a consensus about what to do with the site.  I don't think 
people will start debating that in earnest 'til the cleanup is 
almost done.  If Giuliani was still mayor, he would build a 100 
story likeness of himself.  But right now, it seems that people 
assume some kind of office building will be built there.  That's 
a big chunk of prime real estate. I don't think that's going to 
be a problem as much as the memorial. I'm sure the Muslims are 
going to piss and moan to make sure it's sanitized so that they 
aren't blamed.
Winter olympics are boring, no ?

FBI Issues New Terror Alert 

Warning About Yemeni Man, Says Attack May Be Imminent 

Feb. 11, 2002
  
AP / CBS  
(CBS) The FBI issued an extraordinary terrorist alert Monday 
night, asking law enforcement and the American public to be on 
the lookout for a Yemeni man and several associates who might be 
plotting a terrorist attack as early as Tuesday. 

A ordinary American licensed by the American goverment to kill 
Yememi's. Yemeni varment-cong, I believe. How does a person tell 
a Yemeni from say, a innocent Afghani? Or a Saudi? Or a Kuwaiti?
This was no help at all. Not even a picture yet.

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/seekinfo/2-11-02.htm

Something didn't seem right somehow, EagleEye supposedly 
posting...out of the blue. Hmmmmm...his posts normally had a bit 
more substance to them. Thought I'd reply, just in case. What's 
Up indeed, huh!. Whoever that impersonator was!....should be 
brought before the Great Pumpkin and shown NO mercy, for showing 
such sacrilige!

I somehow think Bosnian_Playa's chowed down on his fair share of 
deep pans with extra pepperoni, salami n' bacon in his time. 
He's probably saying, Mmmmm!....that sounds good!!.

It Dont matter what people think. Every Dick Tom and Harry 
want's to come here. the Grand U.S. of A...U can take cheap 
shots at us,But we are still standing Tall. and if ya have a 
problem with this great Nation. we Have a great Military to back 
it up. every nation in the world should control there people and 
not harbor Colts Like Osma Bin Satan's Groups, there giving 
Islam a Bad wrap. and if your a good Muslim teach your kids 
about others rights to be who they are,.. not, that every 1 is 
Evil because there not muslims.and the USA is not the bIg Satan 
thats a bunch of SHIT... u can come here and teach Islam and all 
that other good crap. the Goverment will not hunt u down, and u 
will NOT hear over the churche's speakers. go kill non belivers. 
what type of bull shit is that.. I do belive theres Good People 
Out there. and if u are , when u are in trouble u call the cops 
or your local Police Force in your nation, so DONT GET MAD WHEN 
WE CALL ours when Crazy ASS people  go around Killing Americans. 
If u Think its time for u to  come after us, because your let 
your self be  brain washed by some Crazy Basterd. or Basterd's. 
you have another thing COMING. Dont Forget we have taken on 
bigger and badder Mother Fuckers.
Long Live U know WHO >wink<

Dont Tread: You bring up an intresting comparison of the Mob to 
the terrorists. Yes the Mafia is still around, but they operate 
in a much different way than they did in the good old days. 
Maybe thats the best that can be hoped for with the terrorists? 
Anyway we'll damn well sure get our point across to them on the 
price to be payed for such actions.
 The Olympics. I take it your not a big Curling fan? The 
Downhill sking, Luge and Skeleton are worth watching, kinda like 
watching car racing, waiting for the big crash. They need to 
retest the Skiers and Sledders, 80mph on snow skis, those people 
just have to be wound up on something. The female figure skaters 
are nice to watch, it hard to take my eyes off those legs though 
to see what their scores are!

U.K.Citizen: Short stop, yes it was for Eagle Eye. If it was 
him, as you say. I'll bet he is letting his views be known 
elsewhere. I've found some other sites that were very 
interesting but all the people tend to be of the same view. Its 
kinda fun getting shot back at here!

Oh! Quick! I'll order a Pizza! Pappa Johns should do it. NO 
really they are planning another attack? Ok sarcasim 
aside...BFD  so what else ids new? As if an attack isn't planned 
everyday! As for the FBI... I would rather hear that one of our 
fine tax supported agencies has apprehended a pin headed 
terrorist. So far, Citizens have had to fend for themselves. The 
shoe bomber, after ties with Atta & the taliban went undetected 
until a stewardess took him out! 
  In a word..........SHIT! don't tell me this vauge S.H.I.T. It 
is all to obvious it will be MY .357 Mag that takes the next one 
out! If so...give me ALL the facts. If it's MY JOB..no problem. 

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

and many more to come.

Three guys are drinking in a bar when a drunk comes in, staggers 
up to 
them, and points at the guy in the middle, shouting - "Your 
grandma's the 
best sex in town!" 
Everyone expects a fight, but the guy ignores him, so the drunk 
wanders off 
and bellies up to the bar at the far end. 
Ten minutes later, the drunk comes back, points at the same guy, 
and says - 
"I just did your grandma, and it was sw-eee-et!" 
Again the guy refuses to take the bait, and the drunk goes back 
to the far 
end of the bar. 
Ten minutes later, he comes back and announces - "Your grandma 
liked it!" 
Finally the guy has had enough and yells, "Go home, Grandpa, 
you're drunk!"

THE KIND.  THE THOUGHTFUL. THE LOVING. 102 GIFTS FOR ANY 
SEASON, TO GIVE WITH ALL YOUR HEART.



1. Smile
2. Provide a shoulder to lean on
3. Pat someone on the back
4. Say  thankyou 
5. Give an unexpected kiss
6. Or a warm hug
7. Say  Gosh, you look good! 
8. Rub a tired back
9. Apply a cold compress
10. Whistle when you re feeling down
11. Keep the speed limit
12. Say  good morning  even if it isn t
13. Mail a letter to an old friend
14. Place a surprise phone call
15. Wash the dishes when it s her turn
16. Empty the trash when it s his turn
17. Ignore a rede remark
18. Help a friend move her piano
19. Or clean his garage
20. Or paint his house
21. Make the coffee at the office
22. Save the want-ads for a job hunter
23. Write a nice letter to the editor
24. Take Grandma to lunch
25. Don t discuss the election with your mother-in-law
26. Don t discuss the Superbowl with your father-in-law
27. Send a  thinking of you  card
28. Wave at a meter maid
29. Just use one parking space
30. Pay your doctor bill
31. Give your used clothes to a needy person
32. Pass on some good news
33. Send a complimentary letter about a great product
34. Buy the wine she likes
35. Buy the cheese he likes
36. Say something nice, instead
37. Consider a different poit of view
38. Loan a favorite book
39. Return a friend s favorite book
40. Let him win at golf
41. Let her win at tennis
42. Play catch with a little boy
43. Or a little girl
44. Take a box of homemade cookies to work
45. Visit an elderly shut-in
46. Forgive an old grudge
47. Talk to a lonely child
48. Laugh at an old joke
49. Laugh at a boring joke
50. Tell him he s wonderful
51. Tell her she s beautiful
52. Take the kids to the park
53. Or the zoo
54. Or the snow
55. Serve breakfast in bed
56. Make the music soft and the lights low
57. Clean the house for Mom
58. Share a dream
59. Jog with her
60. Walk with him
61. Adopt a stray cat
62. Or a lost dog
63. Keep a confidence
64. Try to understand a teenager
65. Try to understand an adult
66. Squeeze the toothpaste tube from the bottom
67. Relay an overheard compliment
68. Let someone ahead of you in line
69. Say  You re doing a good job 
70. Send a friendly note to a computer
71. Tell your optometrist he has pretty eyes
72. Laugh when the joke s on you 
73. Say you were wrong
74. Say someone else was right
75. Say  please 
76. Say  yes 
77. Help someone change a tire
78. Be quiet in the library
79. Type a term paper for a friend
80. Explain, patiently
81. Tell the truth
82. Encourage a sad person
83. Take a problem upon yourself
84. Spread a little joy around
85. Remain calm
86. Leave your mail carrier a little gift
87. And your milk man
88. Change someone s typrwriter ribbon
89. Cut the grass
90. Tell a bedtime story to a little one
91. Do a kind deed, anonymously
92. Share your umbrella
93. And your vitamin C s
94. Talk to a friend s plant
95. Mail someone a poem
96. Leave a funny card under a windshield wiper
97. Tape a love note to the refrigerator
98. Be quiet while he watches the game 
99. Be quiet while she watches the movie
100. Give a flower you picked yourself
101. Point out a beautiful sunset
102. Say  I love you  often

Ooooooo that devel american president! He called my whole 
country, and Evil axis! We are not going to stand for that one 
second! Hey secretary, get my commander right away! here.. take 
this memo;
 First! eliminate all religious leaders in our country!
 Second! Hang, dismember and display anyone who commits a crime!
 Third! Tourture anyone who is involved in any political group  
except mine,unless I do not like them!
 Fourth! Tell the world we are NOT EVIL!

http://www.bluegrasscountry.org/

Went on a holiday visit to Jersey 20 or so years ago, it was and 
probably still is, a nice island..no mafia, at least I don't 
think so! Maybe a bit of money laundering goes on, but not much 
else. The fat guy with the wheezing laugh (name escapes me) who 
always acted opposite Burt Reynolds in the Cannonball movies did 
a Marlon Brando-esque turn in the Robin Hood: Men in Tights 
comedy movie playing a Mafia hoodlum from Jersey, trying to make 
out like it was kind of an english version of New Jersey.

Well, guess who's over for dinner, or tea...with the Queen, 
yes.. it's Mr.Giuliani. The world and his wife it seems likes to 
be seen with him nowadays, looks like the Queen is trying to 
improve her profile! New York's Mr.Fixit is over here to give 
some advise on crime reduction measures. The street crime stats 
here really aren't anything to shout about right now, any advice 
at this stage is welcome. I understand NY has transformed itself 
for the better over the last 15 years or so. Mr.Guiliani had 
some success in going after the Mafia I believe. The Italian 
Mafia that is. I'm sure most on your side of the pond have 
O.D.'d by now on Giulimania, but here he gave his first British 
interview just yesterday. Apparantly he modeled himself on 
Winston Churchill..no joke. Didn't compare himself to him 
though, just made reference, always been a secret fan...so it 
reads in the Telegraph online. 

Speaking of things Mafia, as Om/cf said they've moved 
into 'white collar' crime much more nowadays. Now I've nothing 
against Russians not knowing any personally, but it seems the 
two major exports they're famous for at present are Scmirnoff 
Vodka and the mafia, Russian style. As far as organized crime is 
concerned, they're pretty dammed organisized, ruthless, yet 
equiped with Diplomas and Degrees in Business, Accountancy and 
Law. They're over here in some capacity, along with the 
Jamaican 'yardies' who fire off guns in street shoot-outs like 
it's the wild west.

I confess to not having seen one minutes worth of the Winter 
Olympics. Curling...hardly riveting is it? What I probably will 
watch is the ice-hockey in its latter stages. Think it was Lake 
Placid..not sure though, where Team U.S.A. beat the Soviet's big 
red machine' as it was called, in sudden death overtime 3-2. 
Remembering back, I think the U.S. used just about every single 
rough house trick in the book to beat the smooth skating 
Soviets, to great effect one might add!!

I've seen the word Taliban spelt with an 'I' so often on this 
board, that's the way I spell it too. There..I'm thru.           

Jus who doya tink yous' sayin' abouts us bein whit colla here! 
Jus cus we have a few legit buisness ventures don' men nuttin! 
Must be we need a few O the boyz to rough youse up a bit! We 
don' want to riun our rep yaknow!

Acording to a poster on crisis2001.com, this site is getting its 
15 minutes of fame, so to speak. I havent been able to find the 
magazine today and the website wants $40, but there is a list. 
To quote the poster, "To the creators of this site, I can only 
say what goes around comes around.  And by the way, bravo, you 
made the "Best Hate site" listings on Business Week."
 Anybody get Business Week?
 

If hating terrorists is wrong, I dont want to be right!

Hey, now yous an us....we ain't never crossed before, but lately 
wees a gettin word of people...encroachin..ya know..encroachin.. 
on our turf. Now me, hey...I'ma peacful guy right?, hey!...I 
ain't gonna hurtya!..I ain't gonna fit ya new pair a concrete 
galoshas! But some a da boys here, Gino, Pablo, Tony, 
Knuckles...theys don't see it that way. These guys...are 
marines..ya get me? I say to'em, "paisan...is...paisan heh! 
Family." Soma da boys de ain't listnin, wanna make ya an offa ya 
canna refuse!! Weez in Jersey gotta protect our intrests too ya 
know!     

If you can, do please get hold of a copy, this I've got to hear! 

Hi Everyman, thanks for your greetings. Busy, having friends 
visiting and all those festival things. Have a good year a head 
too. Take care, God Bless

So she is still making news. Hmmm? Guess, she must be flat now 
with the tank on her chest.

This is far as I got at the website. When security boxes pop up, 
you know its a scam to get your info, to sell. BusinessWeek, 
appropriate name I think. 

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/toc/02_07/B3770magazine.htm 

A Plague of Hate Sites 

U.K.:  Dom DeLuise?

Have to go to the store to get some pepper...now I want to run 
right out & get a copy of "Newsweek"!

Party On!

Got this interesting info today...

Dear Friend,

There is nothing patriotic about handing over our natural 
heritage to
the oil industry. But that's exactly what the White House wants 
to do
in the name of national security.

I'm asking you to join me in opposing the senseless destruction 
of our
environment by going to 
http://www.savebiogems.org/declaration.asp and
signing the Declaration of Energy Independence. The declaration 
calls
on our government to pursue a sustainable energy future that 
will
preserve -- not destroy -- our last, unspoiled wildlands.

We have little time to lose. With the nation's attention focused
almost exclusively on the war against terrorism, the Bush
administration has moved quietly but aggressively in recent 
months to
open up fragile wildlands to giant energy corporations. In 
Utah, they
were in such a hurry to lease millions of acres of our redrock
canyonlands for oil and gas development that they skipped the
environmental review that is required by law. My colleagues 
here at
NRDC have already gone to federal court to block this illegal 
giveaway
of redrock country.

But that's only the beginning. The Bush-Cheney energy plan -- 
hatched
in closed-door meetings last year with Enron and other energy 
giants
-- would pave the way for oil and gas companies to despoil an 
alarming
number of our last wild places: the Arctic National Wildlife 
Refuge,
the Greater Yellowstone ecosystem, Wyoming's Red Desert, and 
many,
many more.

President Bush says we need the oil to become more energy 
independent.
Don't buy it! Using the tragic events of September 11th as an
opportunity to advance the special interests of the oil 
industry will
not enhance America's energy security. Our nation simply 
doesn't have
enough oil to drill our way to self-sufficiency.

If we really want to declare energy independence, then the only 
answer
is to dramatically reduce our appetite for oil. For starters, 
we could
increase the fuel efficiency of our cars and light trucks to 40 
miles
per gallon. That would save nearly two million barrels of oil a 
day by
the year 2012 -- more than all the oil we imported last year 
from
Saudi Arabia.

The Declaration of Energy Independence sets forth plenty of 
other ways
to slash our dependence on oil. It proves that fighting 
terrorism does
NOT require the destruction of our own natural heritage.

Please do your part by visiting
http://www.savebiogems.org/declaration.asp and signing the 
Declaration
of Energy Independence. It will take you less than a minute.
Then please forward this message to your family and friends. If
millions of us sign the declaration, then the White House and 
Congress
will be unable to ignore its message.

And thank you for helping to save America's last wild places.

Sincerely yours,

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
Senior Attorney
Natural Resources Defense Council

This may be getting away from the usual hate filled postings 
but...............
 I, as many Americans do, love the outdoors. And by outdoors, I 
dont mean a crowded, paved, recreation path through the middle 
of the city. I dont hunt anymore, just lost interest. But I 
still like to fish the rivers and lakes in northern Illinois.
 I get more disgusted with citizens trashing natural areas than 
I do with the oil companies. At least the oil companys are bound 
to some sort of laws. At the risk of sounding like a tree huggin 
hippie, lets save some natural areas!
 My county is known for having very nice Forrest Preserves, and 
I know them all. Imagine this: 
One excellent preserve runs along the Kishwaukee river, a small 
river with good smallmouth bass fishing, good for canoeing. We 
used to take our dog there early on weekend mornings to let him 
run and get his jollies out. We went there one Saturday, walked 
down the trail we usually start on, and see cut down trees 
everywhere. We walk a little further and come across a sign 
planted next to the path that says, "Habitat restoration in 
progress". They were cutting down the trees and brush to 
make a paved path for the rollerbladers in two nearby 
underconstruction subdivisions. Habitat restoration my ass! This 
is just the kind of crap that trips my trigger! 

Well, nothing happened today, did it ?  BUt they did say "on or 
about" didn't they ? I just don't know about these detainees.  I 
guess we gotta check out anything they tell us, but why sshould 
they tell us anything ? WE're gonna let them have a swim for 
exercise one day, aren't we. These guys are such worthless 
bastards, the sharks probably won't even eat 'em.  And they 
probably stink, too.  But yeah.  I agree.  There's a terrorist 
threat everyday.

They film some of "The Sopranos" in the town where I grew up. 
That and a token will get me on the train, huh ? I guess they 
wanted realistic Jersey.  But from our town we had a graet view 
of the World Trade Center when it was being built. I looked 
waaaay out of place then.  But when the sun would shine on it 
just right, it gave off the brightest orange reflection, when we 
were little we used to think it was on fire. Imagine thinking 
the World Trade Center was on fire.

Glad your time here isn't wasted UK Cit. You're learning how to 
spell.  Our word for today, used in a sentence: Donald Rumsfeld 
is the Secretary of DefenSe. Just kidding.  I mean, it is your 
language after all.

So they're painting at work the other day, and one of the 
illegal immigrant bastards had to move the big American flag 
we've had up since September (not since 9/12, the stores were 
all sold out).  So this jerk just rolls it in a ball and leaves 
it on top of a file cabinet.  And that's where it stays for a 
couple of days.  None of the illegal immigrant secretaries does 
anything. (OK, two of them are Puerto Rican and they're 
citizens.  Why, I'll never know.  For letting us use Vieques for 
target practice ?  Don't need it.  We can iuse Afgahnistan, Iraq 
and Iran now). Anyway, this morning my American flag fell off my 
house, si I sez, "Fuck this. I ain't gonna see Old Glory treated 
like shit." Like Don't Tread on Me, ya know ? I pick up my flag 
and re-hang it.  When I get to work, I fold up the flag.  It 
took three times but I finally got it right.  And left it right 
on the office manager's "nothing-out-of-place" desk. I want it 
re-hung.  So they ask me to please take down the pictures of 
patriotic shit on my office door. After 9/11, I put up a little 
Gadsden Flag on my office door and other people started putting 
up stuff (Wanted:Dead or Alive Poster, etc." Now, I gotta take 
it all down. Assholes

Assholes for sure! People were you are at are not 'over it' 
yet. Hell, Im not and Im in the midwest. I put our flag up when 
I got home from work 09/11/01 and someone stole it 3 weeks later!
I was mad as hell, but I had a backup flag! Fuck the thieves, 
hope they sold it to someone who is flying it.

I've never heard such words of hatered as I have on this board.

1)Nobody is saying that the destruction of WTC was good or 
should go unpunished

2)Not a single terrorist who did it was from Afghanistan (HELLO!)

3)The Taleban is NOT Al Queda - you might think this is 
irrelevant but it has a number of strategic ramifications

4)If anyone's acting like Hitler now it is the leaders of both 
sides.

5)If you want to know about a situation you have to look at its 
history, not just reach for your revolver and shoot whoever 
happens to have darker skin than you.

6) You stupid rednecks make me just as sick as stupid terrorists.

suck my cock you bastard

1) Wrong. Look back thru the archived posts and you will see 
many posts indicating happiness at the attacks on America, 
mostly by those indicating they are Muslim or of Arab decent.
2)This is no revelation. Its well known on this board.
3)Semantics. One does the dirty work, the other provides the 
means. They worked hand in hand.
4)Hitler invaded and took over other countries. The U.S. & U.K. 
are simply spanking asses wherever its needed. Seems to me 
Hitler was part of a evil axis as well.
5)I prefer a 9mm auto and it is colorblind. If someone threatens 
me or my family they will be handled reguardless of race or skin 
color.
6)You whinning lefties make me much sicker than rednecks or 
terrorists.

Have a nice day!

Check this out, turn up your speakers and enjoy.

http://home.kimo.com.tw/netspooky/kikia/

I don't know if you know this, but, there is a website that u 
can go to where you can enter the address of a website like Arab 
newspaper sites and it will translate the language to english so 
we can read it.  I was there once, but, did not save the address.

u suck islam the us is going to find bin laden and kill him

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20020213/ts/attack_iraq_dc.html

Virginity like bubble, one prick, all gone.
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 Man who run in front of car get tired.
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 Man who run behind car get exhausted.
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 Man with hand in pocket feel cocky all day.
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 Foolish man give wife grand piano, wise man give wife upright 
organ.
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 Man who walk through airport turnstile sideways going to 
Bangkok.
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 Man with one chopstick go hungry.
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 Man who scratch ass should not bite fingernails.
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 Man who eat many prunes get good run for money.
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 Baseball is wrong: man with four balls cannot walk.
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 Panties not best thing on earth! but next to best thing on 
earth.
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 War does not determine who is right, war determine who is left.
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 Wife who put husband in doghouse soon find him in cat house.
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 Man who fight with wife all day get no piece at night.
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 It take many nails to build crib, but one screw to fill it.
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 Man who drive like hell, bound to get there.
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 Man who stand on toilet is high on pot.
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 Man who live in glass house should change clothes in basement.
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 Man who fish in other man's well often catch crabs.
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 Man who fart in church sit in own pew.
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 Crowded elevator smell different to midget.

Taaaaaliban, just means military government.....AlQueda...is 
Baaaaaaad! Sheeeeep hates AlQueda! Sheeeeep will give them 
saaaaaaaaand fleas! "the camp" is Osama's place of baaaaad 
things! He perverted young boys into haaaaaaateful men! AlQueda, 
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!
  I still can't find the church! my wool is still a mess and you 
mess with me and I'll give you the craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabs! 

OSAMA BIN LADEN HAS A PERVERTED MIND. HE MAY BE MENTALLY ILL, 
POSSIBLE PSYCHO.

Sheeeep maaaaaad at you for hurting step brother goat!

It looks like all thats left is the when and how. Bush and 
Powell almost seem to be doing a 'good cop-bad cop' routine 
lately. Very interesting.....

There must be an Alqueda recruiting office in Yemen, Saudi 
Arabia. I expect there is a poster of Osama pointing and 
saying "We want you, to die for US! Join today!" 15 of the 20 
hijckers came from Yemen and the most recent squeelers in camp X-
ray are all telling of more from the same place. It is all 
probably just B.S. to get better treatment. 

Security forces in a suburb of the Yemeni capital of Sana'a told 
The Associated Press they were chasing Sameer al-Hada, 25, when 
he threatened them with a hand grenade.
The grenade exploded in his hand, killing him instantly. No 
police were injured.
Al-Hada was on the terrorist lists of both U.S. and Yemeni 
authorities, sources told ABCNEWS.

LO FUCKING L!!!!!! Another one bites the dust!

In WW I our troops were called Doughboys 
In WW II they were called GIs 
In Desert Storm they were called Soldiers 
In this new conflict I guess they will be called 



"TALI WHACKERS?" 

Seems the only two that had any brains at all splayed them all 
over the trade center. So far they really suck at what they do! 
I like the Yemen gernade marmalade! Ya gotta be strung out to 
think like they do. When they had pictures of the shoe bomber 
boy he looked lit enough on drugs to fly to the moon! 

Lets see... Who was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize this 
year? Was it Osamaa? Nope. Was it Arafat? Nope. Was it 
SAAAATTAAAAN?
It was George Bush and Tony Blair for their work against 
terrorism.

Watching the news tonight, this grenede expert was pretty well 
connected. No stranger to Afghan training camps. Relatives up 
and down the terrorist ladder. I dont want to come across as Im 
filled with hate but YAAAAA WHOOOOOO!!!, damn good job by the 
authorities in Yemen and I hope they keep their nose to the 
grindstone because it appears they got a full plate to deal with.

the profile of all these wacko walking nut bombs is between 22 & 
34 years old (about) I am just guessing that they get their last 
assignment to go out with a bang! thus keeping the age limit 
consistant. 

For a really good read Read this link:

http://www.antichrist.com.au/crimeline.html
christian crimeline
EVOLUTION OF THE CHRISTIAN CURSE (V1.2)
  D CHRISTIE SINTON "ARNOUME"

This is a really nice web site that lists all the murders, 
killings, slaughters,
and other offenses by 'christians' against the people of earth.

Now:
Every group has spawned war against every other group.

It is just things always seem a little one sided.
'Bad Nazis' 'Evil Jews' 'Dirty Pegans' 'Bloody Muslims'
well, Christianity has it's own list of blood letting...

Mostly against 
Romans, Europeans, Arabs, 
Africans, and Native Americans,
as well as many other groups...




This is the point:


Let's all hope that 
all religions 
can live in 
peace
and
love

(like God tells us too - love NOT kill)





Here is a Short list from the page:

326 Aphrodite Constantine orders destruction of temples of Greek 
love goddess Aphrodite in Jerusalem and Phoenicia. 

335 Magicians Constantine orders death by crucifixion of 
magicians and soothsayers in Asia Minor and Palestine. 

336-61 Aryan schism 1,000,000 Arian Christians are killed for 
disagreeing with Nicean decision that Jesus is divine being; 
Arians claim Christ is created being. 

420-1100 Dark Ages Church engineers complete control over 
education; reading and writing are restricted only to potential 
priests and knowledge outside church is suppressed. 

420-1100 Religion rules "There was a time when religion ruled 
the world; it is known as the Dark Ages" - Ruth Hurmence Green 
(1915-81). 

420-1100 Medicine Advances in Greek and Roman medicine and 
hygiene are declared heretical; plague sweeps Europe resulting 
in huge casualties. 

420-1100 Technology Roads, aqueducts, heating, indoor plumbing 
and other technology invented by Greeks and Romans disappear as 
church power increases during Dark Ages. 

420-1100 History History is rewritten by church fathers claiming 
world is only 5000 years old. 

420-1100 Science Science is pushed back 2000 years; Pythagoras' 
idea earth revolves around sun (600BC) is banned by church even 
when reintroduced by Copernicus in 1600s; Aristarchus' 
heliocentric theory (300BC) is banned by church until 
reintroduced by Galileo in 1600s. 

540-94 Plague 100,000,000 people die during plague which sweeps 
northward from Egypt and Syria; European population is halved 
and Roman Empire never recovers. 

c590-604 Enforced celibacy Gregory I introduces celibacy edict 
to prevent property from passing from church to possible wives, 
families or mistresses of clergy. 

c590 Babies murdered 6000 babies are found murdered in pond 
outside Gregory's Lateran palace after celibacy edict is 
introduced by Gregory I. 

594 Plague ends Plague ends and church moves to dominate field 
of medicine; Christian monks are taught "bleeding" techniques to 
prevent toxic imbalances and restore humors. 

594+ Bleeding Tens of thousands die each year by bleeding until 
practise ends in 16th century. 

637 Jerusalem conquered Muslims conquer Jerusalem. 

782 Charlemagne Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne (c742-814) 
beheads 4500 Saxon rebels in one morning for refusing to convert 
to Christianity. 

800 Universal Emperor Pope Leo III (795-816) declares 
Charlemagne Universal Emperor. 

999 Millennium Millennium terror results in people donating 
money, houses and land to church in what became "history's most 
spectacular giveaway". 

1010 French Jews Bishop of Limoges orders expulsion or execution 
of Jews from France refusing to convert to Christianity. 

1095-9 First Crusade Urban II (1088-99) calls for European 
knights to march on Jerusalem under Christian umbrella to wrest 
Holy Land from Turkish Muslims. Jews and dark-skinned Christians 
also targets. 

1096 People's Crusade Catholic preacher Peter the Hermit (c1050-
1115) leads 1000s of peasants in holy war on Belgrade, chief 
city of Orthodox Church after Constantinople. 

1096 Yugoslavia Amid confused fighting, Peter the Hermit's 
peasant army accidentally slaughters 4,000 Christian residents 
of Zemun, Yugoslavia. 

1096 Goose Crusade Scores of German Jews are hacked or burned to 
death by Christian fanatics who follow goose "blessed by God". 

1096 Muslim slaughter 4,000,000 to 7,000,000 Muslims die as 
Peter the Hermit's peasants follow Christian knights into 
Jerusalem; crusaders believe killing Muslims "good for soul". 

1096 Jewish slaughter Estimated 12,000 Jews are slaughtered 
during first crusade; Historian Dagobert Runes estimates 
3,500,000 Jews are killed during seven Holy Wars. 

1098 Antioch Historian H Wollschl ger estimates 100,000 Muslims, 
including women and children, were slaughtered by Christian 
crusaders at Turkish Antioch. 

1098 Marra Historian H Wollschl ger estimates 1000s were 
slaughtered by Christian crusaders at Maraat an-numan. 

1099 Battle of Askalon Historian H Wollschl ger estimates more 
than 200,000 were slaughtered "in the name of Our Lord Jesus 
Christ". 

1099 Jerusalem Jerusalem taken by crusaders. Historian H 
Wollschl ger estimates more than 60,000 Jewish and Muslim men, 
women and children were slaughtered by Christians in Jerusalem. 

1146-8 Second Crusade Pope Eugenius III (1145-53) calls for holy 
war on Muslims at Edessa; St Bernard of Clairvaux declares: "The 
Christian glories in the death of the pagan because thereby 
Christ himself is glorified". 

1181 Inquisition procedures Lucius III (1181-85) establishes 
procedures for Inquisition. 

1187 Jerusalem recaptured Saladin recaptures Jerusalem but 
unlike Christian crusaders of 1099, not one Christian is harmed. 

1187-92 Third Crusade Pope Gregory VIII (1187) declares holy war 
on Muslims in Jerusalem as well as on pagans, Cathars and Jews 
in Europe and England; many communities sacked and destroyed. 

1187-92 Stupid loss of life Estimated 1,000,000 lives are lost 
during 5 year crusade at hands of people historian E Gibbon 
describes as "the most stupid and savage refuse of people". 

1191 Richard Lion Heart 3000 men, women and children are 
slaughtered outside Acre during third crusade; stomachs are cut 
open in search for swallowed gems. 

1198-1216 Innocent III Innocent III declares "anyone who 
attempts to construe a personal view of God which conflicts with 
church dogma must be burned without pity". 

1200-4 Fourth Crusade Catholic armies are sent to fight Muslims 
in Jerusalem but end up fighting themselves; 1000s die as 
Catholics sack Orthodox Church cities of Constantinople and Zara 
during crusade described as "total failure". 

1208-38 Albigenses 1,000,000 Albigensians (Cathars) perish in 
south of France after Innocent III launches holy war described 
as one of history's most terrible campaigns. 

c1208 St Nazair 12,000 are slaughtered at Cathedral of St 
Nazair. 

c1208 Toulouse 10,000 are executed by Bishop Folque of Toulouse. 

c1208-9 Beziers (France) 20,000 Cathari are slaughtered by 
Catholic Church commanding legate Arnaud; other chroniclers 
estimate between 60,000 and 100,000 deaths. 

1209 Carcassonne Historian H Wollschl ger estimates 1000s were 
slain by Christian crusaders at Carcassonne. 

1212 Children's Crusade 1000s of children die after they are 
sent to fight Muslims in belief they would be empowered by God: 
most die or are sold into slavery during crusade described 
as "great embarrassment" to church. 

1215 Magna Carta King John grants charter at Runnymede 
recognising rights of church, barons and freemen. 

1217-22 Fifth Crusade Pope Honorius III (1216-27) launches holy 
war on Egyptian Muslims which ends in disaster for Christians; 
numerous lives are lost. 

1227-41 Gregory IX 100,000 to 2,000,000 die over 500 years after 
Gregory establishes first of three Holy Inquisitions in 1232. 

1228-29 Sixth Crusade Gregory IX (1227-41) declares holy war on 
Muslims and succeeds in reoccupying Jerusalem as part of 
temporary peace treaty. 

1232+ Thousands die 35,534 individuals are burned during 
Inquisition; 18,637 more are burned in effigy while 293,533 
receive other Inquisitional punishments. 

1291 Crusades end Muslims recapture last Christian stronghold, 
Acre, in retaliation for Richard's massacre century earlier. 

1297 Palestrina 6,000 citizens of Palestrina are slaughtered 
after Boniface VIII orders papal troops to kill all inhabitants 
of town belonging to rival family. 


1347-50 Bubonic Plague 27,000,000 die during Bubonic Plague also 
called "The Death" which many Christians claim Jews started. 

1347-50 Jews killed 18,600 Jews are killed in 350 separate 
massacres by Christians believing Jews had started Bubonic 
Plague. 

c1347 Bavaria 10,000 Jews are slaughtered after Christian mobs 
wielding pitchforks and sickles slash through 80 Jewish 
communities in Bavaria. 

c1347 Brussels 600 Jews are massacred after Catholic flagellants 
march through Brussels. 

1348 Strasbourg, France 2000 Jews are herded into large wooden 
barn and burned after Christians accuse them of starting Bubonic 
Plague. 

1349 German Jews More Jews are murdered, mostly burned alive, in 
single year than Christians persecuted by Romans over 200 years. 
Historian K Deschner reports 350 German Jewish communities 
attacked. 

1349 Mainz 6000 Jews are massacred in single day by Christians 
claiming Jews started Bubonic Plague. 

1375 Cessna 2500-5000 inhabitants of Cessna are massacred under 
future Clement VII for revolting against papal authority; women 
are raped and children ransomed. 

1391 Seville Jews Archbishop Martinez of Seville launches Holy 
War on Jews resulting in 4000 lives lost; 25,000 surviving Jews 
sold into slavery where archbishop forces those aged over 10 to 
wear ident