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From: Everyman
To: CC, om/cf, Spy, Merlyn, Italian Guy et al
Date: Sat Feb 22 04:59:02 2003

Message:
CC--any coincidence with Canada going from mauve to violet right 
before announcing no troops are going without UN resolution?

Italian Guy:  Welcome back!

Spy, the Iraqi TV shows are hilarious!

"It seems that the 14 controlled satellite channels project 
(called the rafidain network) is a total flop. Out of 10.000 
decoders only 6.000 were sold and this in a city with around 
5Million inhabitants. This needs a little explaining. Installing 
a satellite TV dish in you house is punishable by 750.000 ID and 
three months in prison. But 2 months ago the government decided 
to re-transmit 14 selected channels hand-picked with the 
assistance of the A.R.T network. The ART channels get the bigger 
share, national geographic and discovery are also part of the 
batch and one western music channels which the news papers 
attack because of the loose morals these channels spread. Lately 
they have decided to change 'animal planet' to 'paramount comedy 
channel'. Now we watch Seinfeld and Dharma&greg. But Mr. Channel 
Zapper hates Jay Leno because at 10pm they change the channel to 
TCM (they even do the channel surfing for you, do they love us 
or what?). the service is only available in Baghdad, and is a 
phenomenal failure (in a call-in radio show the main reasons why 
people didn't subscribe to the service was that it's outside the 
range of the average budget, many find the choice of channels 
not attractive [the ART network isn't exactly the most 
attractive package] and no news channels)" Salam

om/cf, have been perusing the link you mentioned earlier written 
by Salam.  Interesting item of note:  US has been bombing in 
Iraq since at least November...

Also this item on human shields:  (you may want to sit down for 
this one)

"One of the latest group to arrive in Baghdad, mostly Europeans, 
were welcomed to the Rasheed hotel , which is like the Waldorf 
Astoria of Baghdad, no other hotel is more expensive and 
exclusive. All of them were wearing T-shirts with what was 
supposed to be "Human Shields" in Arabic, but they had it all 
wrong it said "Adra'a Basharia" instead of "Duru'u Basharia" 
which got them a few giggles and a new name; they are now 
the "Adra'a" just to show how clueless they are. A lot of funny 
Arabic these days with all these HS's running around, a van with 
a foreign number plate standing near the ministry of information 
has "No War" written all over it in many languages the biggest 
in Arabic. All over the front of it is says "La Harba" which is 
wrong and sounds like a night club, my cousin thought that was 
cute. Anyway, what really got my goat this time was finding out 
that they get food coupons worth 15,000 dinars per meal, 3 for 
every day.fifteen thousan.
Do you know how much the monthly food ration for a 4 person 
family is worth, for a whole month not per meal (real cost, not 
subsidized) ? 30,000 dinars, if you get someone to buy the bad 
rice they give you for a decent price. 15,000. What are they 
eating? A whole lamb every meal? Let's put this within context. 
Today in the morning Raed, our friend G. and I went for a late 
big breakfast we had 2 tishreeb bagilas (can't explain that, you 
have to be an Iraqi to get it otherwise it sounds inedible) and 
a makhlama (which is an omelet with minced meat), tea, fizzy 
drinks and argila afterwards (the water-pipe-thingy) all for 
4,750 dinars, and we were not going super cheap. A lunch in any 
above-average restaurant will not be more than 8,000 dinars and 
that includes everything. 15,000 thousand is a meal in a super 
expensive restaurant in Arasat Street, in one of those places 
that really almost have an "only foreigners allowed, no Iraqis 
welcome unless you are UN staff" sign on it. I will stop calling 
them tourist when they stop taking all this pampering from the 
Iraqi government. Did I tell you about the tours? Today was 
Babylon day. You are really missing it, the cheapest way to do 
the Iraq trip you have wanted to do but were too scared.
And I have a tip for all freelance journalists who are not 
getting their Visas. Join your colleagues. It's the best way to 
get past the visa thing, every third one of these "shields" will 
be writing an article somewhere. Hurry contact your local "war 
tourism" travel agent.
Sorry, I just don't get it. What are they doing here?"

(400k Iraqi Dinars ($200))



From: U.K.Citizen
To: om/cf, Spy
Date: Sat Feb 22 05:24:43 2003

Message:
om/cf: If possible, can you contact me via my e-mail address, as 
it appears I've evidently forgotten yours. I too mass-murdered 
my e-mails.

Spy: As Chirac is happy enough to welcome international pariahs 
to France for the sake of trade agreements, looks like the world 
peace movement has finally found a person of integrity they can 
rally behind.  

From: .44
To: CC
Date: Sat Feb 22 10:39:02 2003

Message:
Not true! Osama's driving a cab in New Jersey! Good luck trying 
to find him though; all those cab drivers with turbans makes for 
a good camoflouge. Just makes me "sikh".      
                             
               
               

From: THE WORLD
To:
Subject: War
Date: Sat Feb 22 10:31:49 2003

Message:
After Blenheim
Robert Southey (1830)

It was a summer evening,
Old Kasper s work was done,
And he before his cottage door
Was sitting in the sun;
And by him sported on the green
His little grandchild Wilhelmine.

She saw her brother Peterkin
Roll something large and round
Which he beside the rivulet
In playing there had found;
He came to ask what he had found
That was so large and smooth and round.

Old Kasper took it from the boy
Who stood expectant by;
And then the old man shook his head,
And with a natural sigh
 T is some poor fellow s skull , said he
 Who fell in the great victory .

 I find them in the garden,
For there s many here about;
And often when I go to plough
The ploughshare turns them out.
For many thousand men  said he,
 Were slain in the great victory. 

 Now tell us what  twas all about ,
Young Peterkin he cries;
And little Wilhelmine looks up
With wonder-waiting eyes;
 Now tell us all about the war,
And what they fought each other for .

 It was the English , Kasper cried,
 Who put the French to rout;
But what they fought each other for
I could not well make out.
But everybody said , quoth he,
 That  twas a famous victory.

 My father lived at Blenheim then,
Yon little stream hard by;
They burnt his dwelling to the ground,
And he was forced to fly;
So with his wife and child he fled,
Nor had he where to rest his head. 

 With fire and sword the country round
Was wasted far and wide,
And many a childing mother then
And newborn baby died;
But things like that, you know, must be
At every famous victory.

 They say it was a shocking sight
After the field was won;
For many thousand bodies here
Lay rotting in the sun;
But things like that, you know, must be
After a famous victory.

 Great praise the duke of Marlbro  won
And our good Prince Eugene;
 Why,  twas a very wicked thing! 
Said litlle Wilhelmine;
 Nay .nay .my little girl , quoth he,
 It was a famous victory. 

 And everybody praised the Duke
Who this great fight did win. 
 But what good came of it at last? 
Quoth little Peterkin;-
 Why that I cannot tell,  said he,
 But twas a famous victory. 


From: om/cf
To: Everyman
Date: Sat Feb 22 13:25:29 2003

Message:
I've enjoyed reading Salam's blog as well. A little peek at life 
in Bahgdad. His detailed description of how the massive pro-
Saddam marches are organized by the Saddam regime was amazing. 
One way or the other I think there will be some happy Iraqi's 
soon.

From: an Italian guy
To: hairy motherfucka
Subject: answer
Date: Sat Feb 22 14:00:50 2003

Message:
hello, motherfucka, very pleased to meet you   :)

From: an Italian guy
To: Merlyn
Date: Sat Feb 22 14:10:21 2003

Message:
Hi Merlin, what's up?   :)

Can you tell me please what as "aIg" is?

From: an Italian guy
To: Spy , Everyman and UK citizen
Date: Sat Feb 22 14:12:16 2003

Message:
Hi Spy

Hi Everyman

Hi UK citizen

glad to find you all again   :)


From: an Italian guy
To:
Subject: war on Iraq
Date: Sat Feb 22 14:14:33 2003

Message:
It would be better if the USA could attack Iraq with the consent 
of the UN, but if the UN don't give it, the USA do have the 
right to attack even without it, beacuse they're the first 
country exposed to danger of a nuclear - or biological or 
chemical - terrorist attack. There's no joking with these 
weapons. And Islam extremism EXACTLY wants the complete 
destruction of the USA. Americans have A MOST SACRED RIGHT to 
protect themselves, even without the UN approval.

I really don't understand why so many people - and governments - 
pretend to don't understand that:
1) Iraqi regime is an extremely serious threat for the USA;
2) after USA, it's a serious threat for the rest of the world -
and not only for Israel and western countries;
3) Saddam Hussein is foolish, megalomaniac, unreliable and a war-
monger;
4) Iraqi regime is making a progressive slaughter of Kurds, 
since many years;
5) the Iraqi one is a dictatorial and corrupted regime that 
accomplishes abuses, injustices and also atrocities to his own 
folk itself, and through the complete control on the media hides 
what it does and what it is from its own folk and from the world.

I think, the control on Iraqi oil MAY be a dirty American 
interest in this war, but saying that THAT is the true interest, 
not the threat of NBC attacks, is talking like an idiot.

Let's attack Iraq, it's REALLY a public danger.
But may the war just hit Iraqi regime and Saddam Hussein's 
family, not Iraqi folk. It has no fault.

From: aria
To: whoever agrees with me
Date: Sat Feb 22 18:54:40 2003

Message:
life sucks!thank god we only live it once!!!!!!!

From: om/cf
To: All
Subject: Wheeew!! Gulf War II is over!
Date: Sat Feb 22 21:26:10 2003

Message:
http://www.thebrainstrust.co.uk/article.53.2679.html

From: om/cf
To:
Date: Sat Feb 22 23:05:38 2003

Message:
Early on Jan. 31, a KC-135 Stratotanker took off from Ganci Air 
Base, Kyrgyzstan, carrying more than 180,000 pounds of fuel and 
an all-female crew-both pilots, a navigator and a boom operator. 
The event marked the first all-female crew to fly an air 
refueling mission into Afghanistan from Ganci.

http://www.af.mil/photos/images/030206-F-0000G-007.jpg

Shit!! Im ready to join up, where do I sign!

From: an Italian guy
To: aria
Subject: reply
Date: Sun Feb 23 05:00:42 2003

Message:
yeah, I agree with you     :)

From: an Italian guy
To:
Subject: war on Iraq
Date: Sun Feb 23 05:02:47 2003

Message:
I think, after Iraq's invasion can right be found the proofs 
that Iraq was to be invaded. 
Because only then we'll be able to perform a GOOD SEARCH of nbc 
sites  weapons and substances, and only then will come to light 
the wrongs and the atrocities of Iraqi regime and of Saddam 
Hussein's family.

AND AT THAT POINT:

1) Chirac,
2) Schroeder,
3) Belgian government,
4) Putin,
5) Chinese government,
6) the Pope,
7) a large part of Islam,
8) "pacifists" all over the world,
9) anti-americans all over he world,
10) communists all over the world,

all these will see how wrong they were.

Still no valid reasons for attacking Iraq?
Don't worry.
Those we'll find AFTER.

From: Still no valid reasons for attacking Iraq?
To: none
Subject: Americans need death to feel powerful
Date: Sun Feb 23 11:26:25 2003

Message:
Yes, and if they don't find any evidence, they'll be sure to 
plant some, since all the war mongers are so gullible and blind 
that they'll believe whatever they've been told. Like the fools 
they are.

From: Spy
To:
Date: Sun Feb 23 11:52:49 2003

Message:
A Canadian---Osama bin Laden, and George W. Bush run 
across a magic lantern at the very same time. 
At that moment , the genie of the lamp apears to all three 
men and proclaims " I normally grant whoever finds the 
lantern three wishes--however seeing how all three of you 
discovered me at the same moment in time; I will grant you 
each one wish."
The Canadian goes first, wishing only that the lands of his 
nation be fertile and produce many crops.   The genie says 
"your wish is granted."

Osama goes second telling the genie he wants a 
impenetrable barrier around him and his idea of the nation 
of Islam---which would also include his "buddy" Saddam  
Hussein.
The genie says "so it is done" at which time Osama is 
whisked away to be behind his wall of Islam.

 Now the genie turns to George Bush----"So genie of the 
lamp, tell me about that wall..."
The genie replys telling Bush that the wall is five miles thick 
andt fifty-six thousand miles high---"it is totally impenetrable"
Bush--"So no one can get in and no one can get out---right?"
Genie---"That would be correct sir."
Bush---"Fill it with water."

From: Spy
To:
Date: Sun Feb 23 11:54:49 2003

Message:
"Yes, and if they don't find any evidence, they'll be sure to 
plant some, since all the war mongers are so gullible and 
blind 
that they'll believe whatever they've been told. Like the fools 
they are."
**************************
Yo---China,France and Germany has already planted the 
evidence 

From: om/cf
To: Still no valid reasons for attacking Iraq?
Date: Sun Feb 23 12:26:36 2003

Message:
Maybe I can help you out from a humanitarian perspective:

***Saddam Hussein's Repression of the Iraqi People***

UNSCR 688 (April 5, 1991) "condemns" Saddam Hussein's repression 
of the Iraqi civilian population -- "the consequences of which 
threaten international peace and security." UNSCR 688 also 
requires Saddam Hussein to end his repression of the Iraqi 
people and to allow immediate access to international 
humanitarian organizations to help those in need of assistance. 
Saddam Hussein has repeatedly violated these provisions and has: 
expanded his violence against women and children; continued his 
horrific torture and execution of innocent Iraqis; continued to 
violate the basic human rights of the Iraqi people and has 
continued to control all sources of information (including 
killing more than 500 journalists and other opinion leaders in 
the past decade). Saddam Hussein has also harassed humanitarian 
aid workers; expanded his crimes against Muslims; he has 
withheld food from families that fail to offer their children to 
his regime; and he has continued to subject Iraqis to unfair 
imprisonment.


*Refusal to Admit Human Rights Monitors*

The UN Commission on Human Rights and the UN General Assembly 
issued a report that noted "with dismay" the lack of improvement 
in the situation of human rights in Iraq. The report strongly 
criticized the "systematic, widespread, and extremely grave 
violations of human rights" and of international humanitarian 
law by the Iraqi Government, which it stated resulted in "all-
pervasive repression and oppression sustained by broad-based 
discrimination and widespread terror." The report called on the 
Iraqi Government to fulfill its obligations under international 
human rights treaties.


Saddam Hussein has repeatedly refused visits by human rights 
monitors and the establishment of independent human rights 
organizations. From 1992 until 2002, Saddam prevented the UN 
Special Rapporteur from visiting Iraq.


In September 2001 the Government expelled six UN humanitarian 
relief workers without providing any explanation.


*Violence Against Women*

Human rights organizations and opposition groups continued to 
receive reports of women who suffered from severe psychological 
trauma after being raped by Iraqi personnel while in custody.


Former Mukhabarat member Khalid Al-Janabi reported that a 
Mukhabarat unit, the Technical Operations Directorate, used rape 
and sexual assault in a systematic and institutionalized manner 
for political purposes. The unit reportedly also videotaped the 
rape of female relatives of suspected oppositionists and used 
the videotapes for blackmail purposes and to ensure their future 
cooperation.


In June 2000, a former Iraqi general reportedly received a 
videotape of security forces raping a female family member. He 
subsequently received a telephone call from an intelligence 
agent who stated that another female relative was being held and 
warned him to stop speaking out against the Iraqi Government.


Iraqi security forces allegedly raped women who were captured 
during the Anfal Campaign and during the occupation of Kuwait. 


Amnesty International reported that, in October 2000, the Iraqi 
Government executed dozens of women accused of prostitution.


In May, the Iraqi Government reportedly tortured to death the 
mother of three Iraqi defectors for her children's opposition 
activities.


Iraqi security agents reportedly decapitated numerous women and 
men in front of their family members. According to Amnesty 
International, the victims' heads were displayed in front of 
their homes for several days.


*Torture*

Iraqi security services routinely and systematically torture 
detainees. According to former prisoners, torture techniques 
included branding, electric shocks administered to the genitals 
and other areas, beating, pulling out of fingernails, burning 
with hot irons and blowtorches, suspension from rotating ceiling 
fans, dripping acid on the skin, rape, breaking of limbs, denial 
of food and water, extended solitary confinement in dark and 
extremely small compartments, and threats to rape or otherwise 
harm family members and relatives. Evidence of such torture 
often was apparent when security forces returned the mutilated 
bodies of torture victims to their families.


According to a report received by the UN Special Rapporteur in 
1998, hundreds of Kurds and other detainees have been held 
without charge for close to two decades in extremely harsh 
conditions, and many of them have been used as subjects in 
Iraq's illegal experimental chemical and biological weapons 
programs.


In 2000, the authorities reportedly introduced tongue amputation 
as a punishment for persons who criticize Saddam Hussein or his 
family, and on July 17, government authorities reportedly 
amputated the tongue of a person who allegedly criticized Saddam 
Hussein. Authorities reportedly performed the amputation in 
front of a large crowd. Similar tongue amputations also 
reportedly occurred.


Refugees fleeing to Europe often reported instances of torture 
to receiving governments, and displayed scars and mutilations to 
substantiate their claims.


In August 2001 Amnesty International released a report entitled 
Iraq -- Systematic Torture of Political Prisoners, which 
detailed the systematic and routine use of torture against 
suspected political opponents and, occasionally, other 
prisoners. Amnesty International also reports "Detainees have 
also been threatened with bringing in a female relative, 
especially the wife or the mother, and raping her in front of 
the detainee. Some of these threats have been carried out."


Saad Keis Naoman, an Iraqi soccer player who defected to Europe, 
reported that he and his teammates were beaten and humiliated at 
the order of Uday Saddam Hussein for poor performances. He was 
flogged until his back was bloody, forcing him to sleep on his 
stomach in the tiny cell in Al-Radwaniya prison.


*Executions and Repression of Political Opposition*

Former UN Human Rights Special Rapporteur Max Van der Stoel's 
report in April 1998 stated that Iraq had executed at least 
1,500 people during the previous year for political reasons.


The government continues to execute summarily alleged political 
opponents and leaders in the Shi'a religious community. Reports 
suggest that persons were executed merely because of their 
association with an opposition group or as part of a continuing 
effort to reduce prison populations.


In February 2001, the Government reportedly executed 37 
political detainees for opposition activity.


In June 2001, security forces killed a Shi'a cleric, Hussein 
Bahar al-Uloom, for refusing to appear on television to 
congratulate Qusay Saddam Hussein for his election to a Ba'th 
Party position. Such killings continue an apparent government 
policy of eliminating prominent Shi'a clerics who are suspected 
of disloyalty to the government. In 1998 and 1999, the 
Government killed a number of leading Shi'a clerics, prompting 
the former Special Rapporteur in 1999 to express his concern to 
the government that the killings might be part of a systematic 
attack by government officials on the independent leadership of 
the Shi'a Muslim community. The government did not respond to 
the Special Rapporteur's letter.


There are persistent reports that families are made to pay for 
the cost of executions.


Saddam Hussein destroyed the southern Iraqi town of Albu 'Aysh 
sometime between September 1998 and December 1999.


Iraq has conducted a systematic "Arabization" campaign of ethnic 
cleansing designed to harass and expel ethnic Kurds and Turkmen 
from government-controlled areas. Non-Arab citizens are forced 
to change their ethnicity or their identity documents and adopt 
Arab names, or they are deprived of their homes, property and 
food-ration cards, and expelled.


*Saddam Hussein's Abuse of Children*

Saddam Hussein has held 3-week training courses in weapons use, 
hand-to-hand fighting, rappelling from helicopters, and infantry 
tactics for children between 10 and 15 years of age. Camps for 
these "Saddam Cubs" operated throughout the country. Senior 
military officers who supervised the courses noted that the 
children held up under the "physical and psychological strain" 
of training that lasted for as long as 14 hours each day. 
Sources in the opposition report that the army found it 
difficult to recruit enough children to fill all of the 
vacancies in the program. Families reportedly were threatened 
with the loss of their food ration cards if they refused to 
enroll their children in the course. The Supreme Council for the 
Islamic Revolution in Iraq reported in October 1999 that 
authorities were denying food ration cards to families that 
failed to send their young sons to Saddam Cubs compulsory 
weapons-training camps. Similarly, authorities reportedly 
withheld school examination results to students unless they 
registered in the Fedayeen Saddam organization.


Iraq often announces food ration cuts for the general 
population, blaming US or UK actions. Among the most 
controversial have been cuts in baby milk rations. Iraq has 
blamed the shortages on US and UK contract rejections, although 
the UN has approved all baby milk contracts submitted.


Child labor persists and there are instances of forced labor.


There are widespread reports that food and medicine that could 
have been made available to the general public, including 
children, have been stockpiled in warehouses or diverted for the 
personal use of some government officials.



*Disappearances*

Amnesty International reported that Iraq has the world's worst 
record for numbers of persons who have disappeared or remain 
unaccounted for. 


In 1999, the UN Special Rapporteur stated that Iraq remains the 
country with the highest number of disappearances known to the 
UN: over 16,000.



*Basic Freedoms: Freedom of Speech, Freedom of the Press, 
Freedom of Information*


In practice, Saddam Hussein does not permit freedom of speech or 
of the press, and does not tolerate political dissent in areas 
under its control. In November 2000, the UN General Assembly 
criticized Saddam Hussein's "suppression of freedom of thought, 
expression, information, association, and assembly." The Special 
Rapporteur stated in October 1999 that citizens lived "in a 
climate of fear," in which whatever they said or did, 
particularly in the area of politics, involved "the risk of 
arrest and interrogation by the police or military 
intelligence." He noted that "the mere suggestion that someone 
is not a supporter of the President carries the prospect of the 
death penalty."


In June 2001, the Human Rights Alliance reported that Saddam 
Hussein had killed more than 500 journalists and other 
intellectuals in the past decade.


Saddam Hussein frequently infringes on citizens' constitutional 
right to privacy. Saddam routinely ignores constitutional 
provisions designed to protect the confidentiality of mail, 
telegraphic correspondence, and telephone conversations. Iraq 
periodically jams news broadcasts from outside the country, 
including those of opposition groups. The security services and 
the Ba'th Party maintain pervasive networks of informers to 
deter dissident activity and instill fear in the public.


Foreign journalists must work from offices located within the 
Iraqi ministry building and are accompanied everywhere they go 
by ministry officers, who reportedly restrict their movements 
and make it impossible for them to interact freely with citizens.


The Iraqi Government, the Ba'th Party, or persons close to 
Saddam Hussein own all print and broadcast media, and operate 
them as propaganda outlets. They generally do not report 
opposing points of view that are expressed either domestically 
or abroad.


In September 1999, Hashem Hasan, a journalist and Baghdad 
University professor, was arrested after declining an 
appointment as editor of one of Uday Hussein's publications. The 
Paris-based Reporters Sans Frontieres (RSF) sent a letter of 
appeal to Uday Hussein; however, Hassan's fate and whereabouts 
remained unknown at year's end.


Saddam Hussein regularly jams foreign news broadcasts. Satellite 
dishes, modems, and fax machines are banned, although some 
restrictions reportedly were lifted in 1999.


In government-operated Internet cafes, users only are permitted 
to view web sites provided by the Ministry of Culture and 
Information.
In 1999, Uday Hussein reportedly dismissed hundreds of members 
of the Iraqi Union of Journalists for not praising Saddam 
Hussein and the Government sufficiently.



*Withholding of Food*

Relatives who do not report deserters may lose their ration 
cards for purchasing government-controlled food supplies, be 
evicted from their residences, or face the arrest of other 
family members. The Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution 
in Iraq reported in October and December 1999 that authorities 
denied food ration cards to families that failed to send their 
young sons to the "Saddam's Cubs" compulsory weapons training 
camps.


*Crimes Against Muslims*

The Government consistently politicizes and interferes with 
religious pilgrimages, both of Iraqi Muslims who wish to make 
the Hajj to Mecca and Medina and of Iraqi and non-Iraqi Muslim 
pilgrims who travel to holy sites within the country. For 
example, in 1998 the UN Sanctions Committee offered to disburse 
vouchers for travel and expenses to pilgrims making the Hajj; 
however, the Government rejected this offer. In 1999 the 
Sanctions Committee offered to disburse funds to cover Hajj-
related expenses via a neutral third party; the Government again 
rejected the offer. Following the December 1999 passage of UN 
Security Council Resolution 1284, the Sanctions Committee again 
sought to devise a protocol to facilitate the payment for 
individuals making the journey. The Sanctions Committee proposed 
to issue $250 in cash and $1,750 in travelers checks to each 
individual pilgrim to be distributed at the U.N. office in 
Baghdad in the presence of both U.N. and Iraqi officials. The 
Government again declined and, consequently, no Iraqi pilgrims 
were able to take advantage of the available funds or, in 2000, 
of the permitted flights. The Government continued to insist 
that these funds would be accepted only if they were paid in 
cash to the government-controlled central bank, not to the Hajj 
pilgrims.

More than 95 percent of the population of Iraq are Muslim. The 
(predominantly Arab) Shi'a Muslims constitute a 60 to 65 percent 
majority: 



The Iraqi government has for decades conducted a brutal campaign 
of murder, summary execution, and protracted arbitrary arrest 
against the religious leaders and followers of the majority 
Shi'a Muslim population. Despite nominal legal protection of 
religious equality, the Government has repressed severely the 
Shi'a clergy and those who follow the Shi'a faith.


Forces from the Mukhabarat, General Security (Amn Al-Amm), the 
Military Bureau, Saddam's Commandos (Fedayeen Saddam), and the 
Ba'th Party have killed senior Shi'a clerics, desecrated Shi'a 
mosques and holy sites, and interfered with Shi'a religious 
education. Security agents reportedly are stationed at all the 
major Shi'a mosques and shrines, where they search, harass, and 
arbitrarily arrest worshipers.


The following government restrictions on religious rights 
remained in effect during 2001: restrictions and outright bans 
on communal Friday prayer by Shi'a Muslims; restrictions on the 
loaning of books by Shi'a mosque libraries; a ban on the 
broadcast of Shi'a programs on government-controlled radio or 
television; a ban on the publication of Shi'a books, including 
prayer books and guides; a ban on funeral processions other than 
those organized by the Government; a ban on other Shi'a funeral 
observances such as gatherings for Koran reading; and the 
prohibition of certain processions and public meetings that 
commemorate Shi'a holy days. Shi'a groups report that they 
captured documents from the security services during the 1991 
uprising that listed thousands of forbidden Shi'a religious 
writings.


In June 1999, several Shi'a opposition groups reported that the 
Government instituted a program in the predominantly Shi'a 
districts of Baghdad that used food ration cards to restrict 
where individuals could pray. The ration cards, part of the UN 
oil-for-food program, reportedly are checked when the bearer 
enters a mosque and are printed with a notice of severe 
penalties for those who attempt to pray at an unauthorized 
location.

From: Spy
To:
Subject: Chirac's Iraq
Date: Sun Feb 23 12:42:47 2003

Message:
The Chirac-Hussein Connection - Courtesy of Stratfor.com
February 19, 2003

Summary

French President Jacques Chirac is a pivotal figure on the 
international scene, whose views on Iraq are of vital 
concern. Those views are not driven simply by geopolitics, 
however. The factors that shape his thinking include a long, 
complex and sometimes mysterious relationship with 
Saddam Hussein. The relationship is not secret, but it is no 
longer as well known as it once was -- nor is it well known 
outside of France. It is not insignificant in understanding 
Chirac's view of Iraq.

Analysis

In attempting to understand France s behavior over the 
issue of war with Iraq, there is little question but that 
strategic, economic and geopolitical considerations are 
dominant drivers. However, in order to understand the 
details of French behavior, it is also important to understand 
a not really unknown but oddly neglected aspect of French 
policy: the personal relationship between French President 
Jacques Chirac and Saddam Hussein.

The relationship dates back to late 1974, when then-French 
Premier Chirac traveled to Baghdad and met the No. 2 man 
in the Iraqi government, Vice President Saddam Hussein. 
During that visit, Chirac and Hussein conducted 
negotiations on a range of issues, the most important of 
these being Iraq s purchase of nuclear reactors.

In September 1975, Hussein traveled to Paris, where Chirac 
personally gave him a tour of a French nuclear plant. During 
that visit, Chirac said,  Iraq is in the process of beginning a 
coherent nuclear program and France wants to associate 
herself with that effort in the field of reactors.  France sold 
two reactors to Iraq, with the agreement signed during 
Hussein s visit. The Iraqis purchased a 70-megawatt 
reactor, along with six charges of 26 points of uranium 
enriched to 93 percent -- in other words, enough 
weapons-grade uranium to produce three to four nuclear 
devices. Baghdad also purchased a one-megawatt 
research reactor, and France agreed to train 600 Iraqi 
nuclear technicians and scientists -- the core of Iraq s 
nuclear capability today.

Other dimensions of the relationship were decided on 
during this visit and implemented in the months afterward. 
France agreed to sell Iraq $1.5 billion worth of weapons -- 
including the integrated air defense system that was 
destroyed by the United States in 1991, about 60 Mirage F1 
fighter planes, surface-to-air missiles and advanced 
electronics. The Iraqis, for their part, agreed to sell France 
$70 million worth of oil.

During this period, Chirac and Hussein formed what Chirac 
called a close personal relationship. As the New York 
Times put it in a 1986 report about Chirac s attempt to return 
to the premiership, the French official  has said many times 
that he is a personal friend of Saddam Hussein of Iraq.  In 
1987, the Manchester Guardian Weekly quoted Chirac as 
saying that he was  truly fascinated by Saddam Hussein 
since 1974.  Whatever personal chemistry there might have 
been between the two leaders obviously remained in place 
a decade later, and clearly was not simply linked to the 
deals of 1974-75. Politicians and businessmen move on; 
they don t linger the way Chirac did.

Partly because of the breadth of the relationship Chirac and 
Hussein had created in a relatively short period of time and 
the obvious warmth of their personal ties, there was intense 
speculation about the less visible aspects of the 
relationship. For example, one unsubstantiated rumor that 
still can be heard in places like Beirut was that Hussein 
helped to finance Chirac s run for mayor of Paris in 1977, 
after he lost the French premiership. Another, equally 
unsubstantiated rumor was that Hussein had skimmed 
funds from the huge amounts of money that were being 
moved around, and that he did so with Chirac s full 
knowledge. There are endless rumors, all unproven and 
perhaps all scurrilous, about the relationship. Some of 
these might have been moved by malice, but they also are 
powered by the unfathomability of the relationship and by 
Chirac s willingness to publicly affirm it. It reached the point 
that Iranians referred to Chirac as  Shah-Iraq  and Israelis 
spoke of the Osirak reactor as  O-Chirac. 

Indeed, as recently as last week, a Stratfor source in 
Lebanon reasserted these claims as if they were 
incontestable. Innuendo has become reality.

Former French President Valery Giscard d Estaing, who 
held office at the time of the negotiations with Iraq, said in 
1984 that the deal  came out of an agreement that was not 
negotiated in Paris and therefore did not originate with the 
president of the republic.  Under the odd French 
constitution, it is conceivable that the president of the 
republic wouldn t know what the premier of France had 
negotiated -- but on a deal of this scale, this would be 
unlikely, unless the deal in fact had been negotiated 
between Chirac and Hussein in the dark and presented as 
a fait accompli.

There is some evidence for this notion. Earlier, when 
Giscard d Estaing found out about the deal -- and 
particularly about the sale of 93 percent uranium -- he had 
ordered the French nuclear research facility at Saclay to 
develop an alternative that would take care of Iraq s 
legitimate needs, but without supplying weapons-grade 
uranium. The product, called  caramel,  was only 3 percent 
enriched but entirely suitable to non-weapons needs. The 
French made the offer, which Iraq declined.

By 1986, Chirac clearly had decided to change his image. In 
preparation for the 1988 presidential elections, Chirac let it 
be known that he never had anything to do with the sale of 
the Osirak reactor. In an interview with an Israeli newspaper, 
he said,  It wasn t me who negotiated the construction of 
Osirak with Baghdad. The negotiation was led by my 
minister of industry in very close collaboration with Giscard 
d Estaing.  He went on to say,  I never took part in these 
negotiations. I never discussed the subject with Saddam 
Hussein. The fact is that I did not find out about the affair 
until very late. 

Obviously, Chirac was contradicting what he had said 
publicly in 1975. More to the point, he also was not making a 
great deal of sense in claiming that his minister of industry 
  who at that time was Michel d Ornano -- had negotiated a 
deal as large as this one. That is true even if one assumes 
the absurd, which was that the nuclear deal was a 
stand-alone and not linked to the arms and oil deals or to a 
broader strategic relationship. In fact, d Ornano claimed that 
he didn t even make the trip to Iraq with Chirac in 1974, let 
alone act as the prime negotiator. Everything he did was in 
conjunction with Chirac.

In 1981, the Israelis destroyed the Iraqi reactor in an air 
attack. There were rumors   which were denied -- that the 
French government was offering to rebuild the reactor. In 
August 1987, French satirical and muckraking magazine, 
 Le Canard Enchaine  published excerpts of a letter from 
Chirac to Hussein -- dated June 24, 1987, and 
hand-delivered by Trade Minister Michel Noir -- which the 
magazine claimed indicated that he was negotiating to 
rebuild the Iraqi reactor. The letter says nothing about 
nuclear reactors, but it does say that Chirac hopes for an 
agreement  on the negotiation which you know about,  and it 
speaks of the  cooperation launched more than 12 years 
ago under our personal joint initiative, in this capital district 
for the sovereignty, independence and security of your 
country.  In the letter, Chirac also, once again, referred to 
Hussein as  my dear friend. 

Chirac and the government confirmed that the letter was 
genuine. They denied that it referred to rebuilding a nuclear 
reactor. The letter speaks merely of the agreements relating 
to  an essential chapter in Franco-Iraqi relations, both in the 
present circumstances and in the future.  Chirac claimed 
that any attempt to link the letter to the reconstruction of the 
nuclear facility was a  ridiculous invention.  Assuming 
Chirac s sincerity, this leaves open the question of what the 
 essential chapter  refers to and why, instead of specifying 
the subject, Chirac resorted to a circumlocution like 
 negotiation which you know about. 

Only two possible conclusions can be drawn from this letter: 
Chirac either was trying, in the midst of the Iran-Iraq war and 
after his denial of involvement in the first place, to rebuild 
Iraq s nuclear capability, or he wasn t. And if he wasn t, what 
was he doing that required such complex language, clearly 
intended for deniability if revealed? No ordinary 
state-to-state relationship would require a combination of 
affection, recollection of long history and promise for the 
future without mentioning the subject. If we concede to 
Chirac that it had nothing to do with nuclear reactors, then 
the mystery actually deepens.

It is unfair to tag Chirac with the rumors that have trailed him 
in his relations with Hussein. It is fair to say, however, that 
Chirac has created a circumstance for breeding rumors. 
The issues raised here were all well known at one time and 
place. When they are laid end-to-end, a mystery arises. 
What affair was being discussed in the letter delivered by 
Michel Noir? If not nuclear reactors, then what was 
referenced but never mentioned specifically in Chirac s 
letter to his  dear friend  Hussein?

Whatever the answer, it is clear that the relationship 
between Chirac and Hussein is long and complex, and not 
altogether easy to understand. That relationship does not, 
by itself, explain all of France's policies toward Iraq or its 
stance toward a war between the United States and Iraq. 
But at the same time, it is inconceivable that this 
relationship has no effect on Chirac's personal 
decision-making process. There is an intensity to Chirac's 
Iraq policy that simply may signify the remnants of an old, 
warm friendship gone bad, or that may have a different 
origin. In any case, it is a reality that cannot be ignored and 
that must be taken into account in understanding the French 
leader s behavior.

From: an Italian guy
To: Still no valid reasons for attacking Iraq?
Subject: answer
Date: Sun Feb 23 13:22:21 2003

Message:
Read my last posting again if you want to know the answer.

Americans need death when they are slaughtered by coward 
terrorist attacks, or when that is necessary to get to Saddam 
Hussain.

From: fuck iraq and fuck america
To:
Date: Sun Feb 23 13:46:13 2003

Message:
and fuck you

From: your moma
To:
Date: Sun Feb 23 13:50:09 2003

Message:
hi i belong to america, yippe , shut the fuck up

From:
To:
Date: Sun Feb 23 13:51:37 2003

Message:
america has evil agenda

From: ?
To: ?
Subject: ?
Date: Mon Apr 8 18:40:07 2002

Message:
?

From: om/cf
To:
Subject: The Grammy Awards show tonight
Date: Sun Feb 23 18:02:56 2003

Message:
BB King was just asked about political comments during the show 
and he said "I think that there are going to be alot of things 
said tonight that I don't agree with."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This promises to be a real freak show. A parade of fools.


From: awm
To: om/cf
Subject: saddam
Date: Sun Feb 23 18:17:22 2003

Message:
you impress me on your article about saddam on 23 feb.2003,you 
are well informed on saddam I have to agree that all said is 
true and well put togather,please keep the good work up,as you 
well know there are a few mental cases on this board,you impress 
so much that I will have to come more often to seek some of your 
information good luck.we need more people like you to keep this 
board interesting

From: om/cf
To: awm
Date: Sun Feb 23 21:04:25 2003

Message:
I thank you for your kind words but to fess up I think that 
information originaly came from http://www.whitehouse.gov/

That doesn't make the fact Saddam and his sons are ruthless, 
coldblooded murderers of their own people any less relevent. I 
was saddened somewhat seeing footage of the anti-war protests 
last week. It wasn't the protests themselves that bothered me. I 
fully believe as U.S. citizens we have that right and to see 
that right being fully exercised actually shined a much needed 
beacon of light on our rights as citizens.

What bothered me was not seeing one single protester carrying a 
sign holding Saddam Hussein responsible for this current 
situation.


From: Marie
To: Walter
Date: Mon Feb 24 02:28:10 2003

Message:
~~ IF PEOPLE OPPOSING THE WAR(AND RECENT POLLS SHOW US TO BE IN 
THE 
MAJORITY) ARE NOW SUPPOSED TO SIT STILL AND SHUT UP, IT MIGHT 
ALSO BE A GOOD TIME TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE WHERE OUR FREEDOM OF 
THOUGHT, FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, AND FREEDOM OF SPEECH WENT.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
Right out the door with the rest of your luggage heading for 
that plane that's going to take you to a more desireable (For 
You) Country!!! 

From: Marie
To: Anti-War Protestors
Subject: Finally!!!!
Date: Mon Feb 24 02:46:36 2003

Message:
In Downtown Okalhoma City the number of Anti-Anti-War protesters 
is FAR out numbering the numbers of anti-war protestors!!! And 
vough they will remain there as long as the anti-war protestors 
do!!! :-) HeHe.....

From: Everyman
To: Marie
Subject: Freedom
Date: Mon Feb 24 06:26:11 2003

Message:
Marie, it sounds like you would rather those protesting against 
war be shipped to some other country; REMEMBER what this country 
is supposed to be about.  Here we have the freedom to voice a 
dissenting opinion.  In some countries people are tortured and 
killed if they even dare whisper opposition to their 
government.  People have a RIGHT to voice an opinion that is not 
yours, without being told to "Fuck off!"  You don't have to 
agree, but at least appreciate their right to express themselves 
and question their government.


From: Everyman
To:
Date: Mon Feb 24 06:44:42 2003

Message:
Just watched an interesting 'Town Meeting" with Christopher 
Shays (R) CT

Some Iraqi students spoke in support of U.S. troops ousting 
Saddam.  One likened calling for indictment as 'trying to get 
rid of cancer, but being against the treatment."

The French have a signed agreement with Iraq  so that they can 
buy oil at significantly lower prices than the market value.  
Can't imagine why they'd be opposed to a regime change.

Iraq owes Russia $6 billion.

Yes, this is about oil.  It is about the proceeds from oil in 
Iraq actually going to BENEFIT the Iraqi population.  As it 
stands right now, Saddam is receiving billions in the 'Oil for 
Food' program, yet citizens of his country are on food rations 
while he spends hundreds of thousands on a single meal.  He 
lavishly furnishes his palaces, buys new cars every day to 
parade down the street, and at the drop of a hat tortures 
innocent civilians.

om/cf  I was just reading in a similar vein just before I logged 
on here... 
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-
files/Guardian/documents/2002/12/02/hrdossierenglish.pdf

This link for "The Republic of Fear" has some excerpts you can 
read to get a glimpse of life in Iraq.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0520214390/104-1817405-
7307913



From: Get a grip
To: RedNecks
Subject: http://www.chisholmclan.com/greychis/reeferdoor/redneck/redneck-pics.html
Date: Mon Feb 24 10:08:27 2003

Message:
http://www.chisholmclan.com/greychis/reeferdoor/redneck/redneck-
pics.html

From: me
To: to all of you
Subject: afghanistan
Date: Mon Feb 24 10:19:17 2003

Message:
i am an afgah i think that united kingdom and america should 
fuck off.and leave us alone.

From: om/cf
To: Get a grip
Subject: LOL!
Date: Mon Feb 24 10:19:16 2003

Message:
I've seen the redneck hi-rise descibed as the Clinton 
Presidential Library elsewhere. I did notice the "for sale" sign 
on the redneck motorhome and I might be interested! I've a 
neighbor who'd love to see THAT parked amongst my car collection 
in the driveway! 

From: all of us
To: me (you)
Date: Mon Feb 24 12:57:35 2003

Message:
we think u r a sad little faggot   and u need to stop choking 
your chicken

From:
To:
Date: Mon Feb 24 12:59:56 2003

Message:
Duct tape?

From: om/cf
To: afgah
Date: Mon Feb 24 13:23:00 2003

Message:
i am an afgah i think that united kingdom and america should 
fuck off.and leave us alone.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I've e-mailed your wishes to President Bush who has in turn 
contacted Tony Blair and to make a long story short, 
operation "Pack up our shit and fuck off/out" has commenced.
I guess the squeeky wheel really does get the grease.

From: Y
To: Marie High Horse
Date: Mon Feb 24 15:39:25 2003

Message:
Please do us all a favor and take some English classes so you 
can learn how to spell.  

"Oh, I'm proud to be an Okie...from 'Okalhoma'..."

From: Tom "Duct Tape" Ridge
To: Y
Date: Mon Feb 24 16:38:35 2003

Message:
Need Duct tape?

From: Everyman
To: om/cf
Date: Mon Feb 24 17:24:46 2003

Message:
I belong to NAMBLA, i like to go camping with the teenage boys 
in town.

From: Hi Lo
To: Marie ( a fat computer girl)
Date: Mon Feb 24 17:27:52 2003

Message:
your a nasty bitch, u should be sucking cock on film.

From: Get a grip
To: Everyman
Date: Mon Feb 24 17:30:18 2003

Message:
i love NAMBLA to

From: fart box
To: Marie
Date: Mon Feb 24 17:52:03 2003

Message:
hi baby, you good lookin?

From: X
To: NAMBLA BOY
Date: Mon Feb 24 18:43:48 2003

Message:
EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT OM/CF, EVERYMAN, N.C. GAL, AND 
JUSTICE(MAYBE), ARE THE ONLY FAIRLY NORMAL PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD.
THE REST OF US ARE GOOFBALLS WITH ISSUES...........

From: .44
To: Marie
Date: Mon Feb 24 18:57:57 2003

Message:
Om/cf makes an excellent point. What is troubling is not so 
much that some people are protesting our involvement with Iraq, 
but that NONE of these protesters has one word to say in protest 
against Saddam Hussein. My guess is that most of those 
protesters see the UN as a legitimate and competent body worthy 
of world governence (scary thought), and that George Bush is 
somehow an ogre for acting on the need to defend America. I'll 
never see eye to eye with those who protest this war either, 
Marie. If they were running the show, the "appeasement crowd" 
would likely "peace" us all to death!          
                                             

From: om/cf
To: X
Date: Mon Feb 24 19:19:59 2003

Message:
How fuckin' dare you lump me in with the normal people. I HAVE 
FUCKING ISSUES!!!! Christ almighty, some asshole called me 
incorrigable today!!!! IN-FUCKING-CORRIGABLE!!! FUCKING VEXED 
AGAIN, THATS WHAT I AM!!!

From: om/cf
To:
Subject: North Korea
Date: Mon Feb 24 19:40:35 2003

Message:
BBC BREAKING NEWS

North Korea fires missile into sea

Monday, 24 February, 2003, 23:58 GMT 
  
North Korea has fired a missile into the Sea of Japan, between 
Japan and the Korean peninsula, reports say. 

South Korea's military has gone on alert as a result of the 
incident, the AFP news agency said, citing military officials in 
Seoul. 

The missile incident comes just hours before South Korea's new 
President, Roh Moo-hyun, is due formally to take office. 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/2796067.stm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Its time to unify Korea. Nuke the north and Korea is unified. 
Gotta give the stumpy little shit Kim credit, he makes 
that "axis of evil" b.s. look more and more on the money 
everyday.

From: Facts Finder
To: All
Date: Mon Feb 24 21:06:05 2003

Message:
I really would like to know how many protester all around the 
world that protest on war against Iraq a non muslims and does 
this non muslims know the consequence if the muslims were to be 
winning in this war. I believe they would be shouting Jihad 
rather the No War. Just like the Prime Minister of Malaysia 
said why call for jihad when you know you are on the losing 
side, replying to statement call by Osama to all muslims to 
fight US if US were to attack Iraq.

Don't stop now, we are winning look at Iran, Saudi, Indonesia 
and other muslims countries they are now arresting these 
terrorists hiding in their countries or are they just putting 
up a show in fear of the US. Many of these people are arrested, 
put on trial and the trial drag on and on until people forget 
about it. Are they really in jail? What happen to Daniel Pearl 
murderers. They should be sent to the US for trial not in 
Pakistan. Probably they are enjoying their virgins in special 
jail arrange for them to hide them away from foreign media.

So please if you are one of those protester. Think about it. 
Has the Muslim accept us non muslims and Isreal in this 
beatiful world. Weeks after weeks, our priests is always asking 
us to pray for peace in Iraq, Palestinian, Indonesia and all 
the trouble areas. Has the Muslims religious leader done the 
same? I hope you, muslims reading this understand that nobody 
hates you. It is you people who inject the terror on the world 
to make people fearful and blame you people for the problem.

Lets us all pray to God (Allah) in our own reliigious way that 
he may guide us and forgive the others as we know that God is a 
forgiving God and he love us all and bring peace and 
understanding to the world so that it will be a better place 
for everyone and future of our children. Peace be with you all. 
God Bless.

From: om/cf
To: .44
Subject: Sheryl Crow
Date: Mon Feb 24 22:00:20 2003

Message:
Now I like her music somewhat, but her anti-Bush/anti-war stance 
recieved a little attention on her fan site this evening! LOL!!

http://www.sherylcrow.com/bboard/fanforum/viewtopic.asp?
TopicID=1344021

From: Everyman
To:
Date: Mon Feb 24 23:01:04 2003

Message:
What's NAMBLA?

From: Marie
To: EveryMan, .44
Date: Mon Feb 24 21:22:16 2003

Message:
Everyman: Oh I'm not by any means questioning/judging/trying in 
any way to stop thier right to Freedom of Speech! I have just 
been waiting for someone on the 'The Other' side to be able to 
express thier right to Freedom of Speech also! :-)

.44: Yes and what really scares me are the 'Human Sheilds', Do 
they not realize what is going to happen to them? I'm just so 
sick that it has had to come to this, I was looking at an Anti-
Anti-War Protestors Sign the other day, that said it all, "What 
if we DONT Dissarm Saddam, can you Imagine the Horror of his 
weapons in Al-Quaida's hands"?
Now that's what really scares me! And if not Al-Quaida, Hamas? 
Or another Extreme group of religious finatics? (Or using 
religion as thier agenda for perpetrating mass death and 
destruction amongst the AMERICAN  people?) That's what makes me 
so mad about the Anti-War protestors, I know as Everyman^^ above 
so eloquently put it FREEDOM of speech should be shared by ALL 
parties! I have the right also to disagree with them, I dont  
WANT War! It's GOT to be the FINAL outcome, but if that's what 
it is going to take to make sure the AMERICAN  people are out of 
harm's way, and we have ABSOLUTELY NO Choice left, what else are 
we suppose to do to make sure we have one less terrorist threat 
on our hands? (A major one at that)! That's what upsets me about 
the Anti-War protestors, not that they protest, but that they 
dont get it! I mean for instance, we do NOTHING!, then Saddam 
keeps building, and building, until he has a massive amount of 
WMD to sell to, oh lets say not just Al-Quaida, but Hamas, The 
Islamic Jihad, etc...ALL AMERICAN haters, that want to see us 
DEAD! The United States of America wiped completely OFF the map! 
Ok now lets have a (Bad, not worst case scenario)(Worst case 
scenario to me means Nuclear, which Poison in any form is about 
as bad as worst case scenario), 'It' (Poison, Anthrax, Ricin, 
Mustard Gas, VX, Smallpox, just to name a few for instance) 
get's sold to one if not more of the FEW groups I mentioned, 
It's smuggled, launched, driven into a building with a plane 
(People used to think that was a Preposterous Notion also), 
parked in a Ryder rent-a-truck somewhere for example and blown 
up, (By the way I'm sure they 'The Terrorists' have already 
thought this up and MAYBE even have it already here!)Thousand's, 
possibly Million's, are killed! 'The Terrorist's have succeeded 
in plan #1', "Knowing there's almost always a plan #2", (Seeing 
what Al-Quiada is already capable of, and knowing they LOVE 
disaster to strike in multiple ways in Consecutive order), they 
have yet again gotten away (Well not completely) with another 
possibly the most deadliest Terrorist attack yet! Then we go 
back to the Anti-War Protestors! And others that 'Opposed' the 
war! Hollywood, etc.. They are now saying: "We had the chance, 
why didnt we put a stop to/or do something about that"?!?!? 
AFTER the fact!!!! That is if they are still alive to whine and 
moan about it! That's what makes me angry! I cant speak for 
anyone else, but that's the way I feel, and why I would like 
them 'The Protestors' to 'Get It'!!!!

I surely hope you guys know me by now and know that what ever 
was typed in the last week or so (With the exception of the last 
day or 2) Well most of it 'Havent searched the archives yet lol' 
probably wasnt me! Well only The Board Goat knows for sure :-)

From: X
To: EVERYMAN
Date: Mon Feb 24 23:25:33 2003

Message:
NORTH AMERICAN MAN/BOY LOVE ASSOCIATION

THIS IS A GROUP OF MEN FIGHTING FOR THEIR RIGHTS TO BE ABLE 
TO LEGALLY BE ABLE TO HAVE SEX WITH UNDER-AGE BOYS.
JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT THE WORLD COULDN'T GET ANY MORE MESSED 
UP....
THEY HAVE A WEBSITE

FROM THE WEBSITE: NAMBLA is strongly opposed to
age-of-consent laws and all other restrictions which deny men and 
boys the full enjoyment of their bodies and
control over their own lives.

 

From: Marie
To:
Subject: Re: North Korea
Date: Mon Feb 24 23:34:58 2003

Message:
Sending Him Out With a 'Bang' so to speak lol...

From: Marie
To: Facts Finder
Date: Mon Feb 24 23:46:22 2003

Message:
Thank You! There are people 'Terrorist Related' Being arrested 
EVERYWHERE! I applaud those countries that have taken a stand to 
combat Terrorism in their own way! Your Country being one of 
them also! I dont think its fear, I am beginning to believe it's 
downright hatred of terrorism that is bringing these folks to 
the point 'Almost as bad as the US' to hunt them down, and catch 
them one by one! Spain, Italy, Indonesia, even Germany, France !
@$#@!,etc.. They are On The Ball! And sick to death of it. I 
dont remember what ever happened to the Daniel Pearl trial. It's 
a shame it's not mentioned much here anymore! Doesnt it sort of 
strike you as strange that we never actually SEE Usama? Hear 
him 'Maybe', see him NEVER! I dont know what to think about that 
unless part of him is 'Missing'!?!?! Iran I'm not to sure about 
lol, that may be a bit of fear, but a little help is better than 
none at all I guess! God Bless You Too Sweetie!!! :-)

From: om/cf
To:
Date: Mon Feb 24 23:48:22 2003

Message:
Well damnit all to hell. Sheryl Crow's fansite caught on and 
started deleting all anti-Sheryl posts and pic's and I gotta 
tell ya, there was some creative photo-shop work done on the 
wording of her political message t-shirts...at one point she had 
underwear with a political statement on the front involving Bill 
Clinton and cigars!! I guess freedom of speech is always 
selective...LOL!!! And it works both ways. I catch holy hell and 
get deleted when I post a comment on Chicago IndyMedia (liberal 
site) that doesn't jive with the political atmosphere and trolls 
get Zotted (account banned) on FreeRepublic (conservative). 
All's fair in politics and war I guess. Rights be damned from 
either side.

Its always a free-for-all here, thankfully no one can post 
pictures!




From: referee
To: X/Worthless
Date: Sat Feb 22 11:18:52 2003

Message:
"I HOPE THEY SCREAMED ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND."

Was that meant to upset me? I'm sorry. You're going to have to do 
better than that. It actually pleases me to see you prove my 
point even more. LOL! You make it too easy for me!

HAIL WORTHLESS!!

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